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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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Which Y Pipe Is Better

WHICH MAKES A BETTER Y PIPE STILLEN OR CATTMAN??? WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK????????????
Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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Re: Which Y Pipe Is Better

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WHICH MAKES A BETTER Y PIPE STILLEN OR CATTMAN??? WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK????????????
not 2 sure but stillen is more expensive.....go with warpspeed
Old Jun 11, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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it's just bent pipes...if done correctly should all yeild the same improvements...
Old Jun 11, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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Re: Which Y Pipe Is Better

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WHICH MAKES A BETTER Y PIPE STILLEN OR CATTMAN??? WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE THINK????????????
why are you yelling? totally not right
Old Jun 11, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Why all CAPS? Anyways, check out www.budgetexhaust.com
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id go with budget as well....im only hearing better amnd better things as time goes on about them...and they have really good customer support, and they are about $60 cheaper than the warpspeed pipe
Old Jun 11, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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Originally posted by Jamsan
id go with budget as well....im only hearing better amnd better things as time goes on about them...and they have really good customer support, and they are about $60 cheaper than the warpspeed pipe
does the budget pipe give out the same gains as the warpspeed??
Old Jun 11, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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And Warspeed's customer service has gone way downhill since about last Christmas.......

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Old Jun 11, 2002 | 10:42 PM
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go with budget ALL THE WAY 20000% great customer service, same pipe but you get good currency exchange from canada dollars. 275 canada to ~178 US SHIPPED!
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 07:26 AM
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While the canadian pipes may be somewhat similar to our non mandrel bent version they are not even close to our line of mandrel bent Y pipes. Right now we make 18 different Y pipes in different configurations and material. I think they make 2 and they paint one of them and its stainless.

The reason there is a price difference is that we only use high quality made in the USA aluminized steel and stainless. While we could use the cheaper canadian steel that they do we will not. We know it is important to be able to offer the extended warranties that we do on our steel products.

I recall earlier that budget said they used the same high quailty made in the USA steel that we do but Jime from the forum actually stopped in their shop looked through their tubing and said all their stainless was stamped "made in Canada" even though budget said it was not. Thanks again Jime.

As to stillen or ca**man, both use smaller tubing than we do, our pipes will outflow theirs. I have at least one stillen pipe in our shop now for repairs and a ca*tman pipe. Both have 2-1/4" collectors where we use 2-1/2" tubing. We also use longer lined flex sections. Our flex won't collapse and fail like the short ones that the other guys use because they crush one end to fit their 2-1/4" collector, that is why they have been failing. A flex section is made by crimping several layers of steel together, when you crush one end to make it oval to fit an oval shape it loses its structural integrity and the liner will come lose and they will fail as they have been doing.

Unlike our one size fits all competition we like to be able to offer a variety of different steel materials, sizes and configurations to cater to the variety of needs and budgets out there.

Since xmas we have been very busy and we have added a customer service person to answer the phone along with an additional TIG welder and a couple of part time fabricators to keep up with production, looks like we will have to add a few more shortly. We do return calls but I am sure we probably miss one once in a while. Sorry if it was you.

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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im just curious..

with so many ppl wondering which ypipe is better, has anyone had the chance to test all 3 on the dyno to see which is REALLY better?

btw. what is the diff between CDN and USA steel? never knew there was a difference.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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btw. what is the diff between CDN and USA steel? never knew there was a difference.
PRICE -- and ONLY price...
Canada is NOT a 3rd world country...

We supply steel cheaper than the Americans because of the DOLLAR
DIFFERENCE and because (I think) Canadian companies receive
incentives from the federal government.

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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i was wondering if anyone knew how long the warpspeed mandrel bent TIG welded t304 stainless are on backorder
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by FLO_BOY


PRICE -- and ONLY price...
Canada is NOT a 3rd world country...

We supply steel cheaper than the Americans because of the DOLLAR
DIFFERENCE and because (I think) Canadian companies receive
incentives from the federal government.

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thast what i figured.. i live in canada as well and i dont see how our products can be considered inferior just cuz we arent part of the US.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by infinit30t
i was wondering if anyone knew how long the warpspeed mandrel bent TIG welded t304 stainless are on backorder
Ordered mine and got it about 3 weeks later.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Do all y-pipes after-market y-pipes priduce the same noise level? I'm trying to find one that sin't too loud since I just had a GReddy exhaust installed a few weeks back.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:15 PM
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you should have bought the apexi ws catback if you didn't want that loud exhaust but your y-pipe shouldn't make it too much louder but maybe a little deeper, get a warpspeed
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by bmfjeep

I recall earlier that budget said they used the same high quailty made in the USA steel that we do but Jime from the forum actually stopped in their shop looked through their tubing and said all their stainless was stamped "made in Canada" even though budget said it was not. Thanks again Jime.
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I did look at pipe while I was there and did see Canada stamped on it. That doesn't mean all their pipe is made is Canada. Regardless, Canadian steel is the same quality as the USA stuff.
Bottom line is you can get a T-304 Stainless Steel non-mandrel bent pipe for $170 US shipped, you can't beat that deal.
I have also heard just recently that Budget will be offering a mandrel bent pipe as well if that is a concern to anyone.
All I know is that my Budget pipe works great and I have nothing but praise for the Budget folks who went out of their way to help me.

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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y-pipe ordering

Thankfully, by adding an additional TIG welder, we are slowly catching up. We anticipate even shorter waits in near future.Again, we try hard to return calls in a reasonable fashion. Dallas and I get up to 100 e-mails daily and returning calls can take time. Our sister Lynne currently answers the phone and is actually getting quite knowledgeable. She has daily contact with Dallas or myself. She can usually tell you how far behind we are. Many questions can be answered by going to our web site.
If you cannot reach anyone at our 1-866-801-9338 # during business hours, feel free to e-mail me. I check my mail 2-3 times daily. I am not the fabrication specialist like Dallas, but I am able to field most questions.

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Old Jun 12, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Originally posted by infinit30t
you should have bought the apexi ws catback if you didn't want that loud exhaust but your y-pipe shouldn't make it too much louder but maybe a little deeper, get a warpspeed
I would have gotten the Apexi if a local shop sold it. My parents wouldn't agree with me purchasing something like that online. I was fortunate enough to get the GReddy since it's very rare at the local shops. I happened to get the last one.
Old Jun 12, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by iregula
go with budget ALL THE WAY 20000% great customer service, same pipe but you get good currency exchange from canada dollars. 275 canada to ~178 US SHIPPED!
Has anyone else have problems with e-mails being answered by Budget?? I have e-mailed them 3 times already, and no response. I'm all the way in Hawaii, and I'm wondering if they are not answering because they don't ship out here???
Old Jun 13, 2002 | 12:07 AM
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Borla?

What about Borla for exhaust equipment? Do they make Y-pipes or anything for Maximas? I hear that they are good in other markets, but I haven't heard anyone mention them here.
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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Where to buy Budget for $170 US?

I notice that on this thread people are saying the Budget Y Pipe is $170-$178 US shipped.

I'm looking on their web site and I must be looking at the wrong part because it says that the T-304 Stainless Steel pipes are $325 Canadian. (US$210) The one I'm looking at is called the 'F' pipe? What is the correct part number for the 4th Gen Maxima Y pipe?, and where is the best place to purchase it?


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Re: Where to buy Budget for $170 US?

Originally posted by ORBRIT
I notice that on this thread people are saying the Budget Y Pipe is $170-$178 US shipped.

I'm looking on their web site and I must be looking at the wrong part because it says that the T-304 Stainless Steel pipes are $325 Canadian. (US$210) The one I'm looking at is called the 'F' pipe? What is the correct part number for the 4th Gen Maxima Y pipe?, and where is the best place to purchase it?


Call them 905 681-4579 the website is not updated. There is a group deal on right now for $250 Cdn or about $160 US shipped. T-304 Stainless Steel. They call it an F -Pipe because it looks like an F not a Y.
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 12:32 PM
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what is the difference in the steel and the bent in y-pipes by budget and warpspeed?? I dunno much about y-pipe so how much difference are they gonna make on the car?
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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i just ordered my y-pipe from budget today. jody is really helpful with any questions that you may have. i hope it gets here soon!!!!
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by jcy98maxse
what is the difference in the steel and the bent in y-pipes by budget and warpspeed?? I dunno much about y-pipe so how much difference are they gonna make on the car?
they price., they are both t-304 ss..
Old Jun 17, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Would the Stillen off-road race pipe (Y-pipe) give better results on the dyno as opposed to any others? Stillen also has a race pipe (not off-road). I assume that the off-road one would be better for more HP/torque gains on the dyno.

But that Stillen off-road pipe compared to Budget or Warpspeed or whatever, would it still be a bit better, even though it costs a lot more?
Old Jun 18, 2002 | 02:14 PM
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Re: Re: Which Y Pipe Is Better

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not 2 sure but stillen is more expensive.....go with warpspeed
The dude never asked about warpspeed, he asked about stillen vs cattman.
Old Jun 19, 2002 | 09:33 AM
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i just ordered my y-pipe from budget today. jody is really helpful with any questions that you may have. i hope it gets here soon!!!!
Are you installing it yourself? Is it something that can be done ouside a professional shop? If you can can you do it yourself, any chance of doing a writeup - post it to ShopTalk. It'd be much appreciated...
..if by no one else, at least I'll appreciated it!
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Are you installing it yourself? Is it something that can be done ouside a professional shop? If you can can you do it yourself, any chance of doing a writeup - post it to ShopTalk. It'd be much appreciated...
..if by no one else, at least I'll appreciated it!
It's really really easy...the guys at budget did it in about 45 minutes, start to finish!
Basically, there are bolts (4 of 'em?) on each end of the pipe, and the two O2 sensors
that "screw" into the Y-pipe.

The only difficulty is if the Y-Pipe is badly corroded, or if bolts get stuck...

Hope this helps!

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Old Jun 19, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by FLO_BOY


It's really really easy...the guys at budget did it in about 45 minutes, start to finish!
Basically, there are bolts (4 of 'em?) on each end of the pipe, and the two O2 sensors
that "screw" into the Y-pipe.

The only difficulty is if the Y-Pipe is badly corroded, or if bolts get stuck...

Hope this helps!

FLO_BOY
Thanks for the help - Are there any gaskets/seals that need to be done?

Does the Y pipe connect directly to the stock Catalytic converter? what noise increase if any does it make?
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