Bought Tires... Riped off?
Bought Tires... Riped off?
I bought 18x7.5 5-114.3 (45s) Konig Tantrum rims with 235/40ZR-18 Kumho ECSTA SUPRA 712s... Total with fees, lugs and 4 free replacements (certificate) was $1712.27
Did I get ripped off or get anything the wrong size?
Did I get ripped off or get anything the wrong size?
Re: Bought Tires... Riped off?
Originally posted by melteye
I bought 18x7.5 5-114.3 (45s) Konig Tantrum rims with 235/40ZR-18 Kumho ECSTA SUPRA 712s... Total with fees, lugs and 4 free replacements (certificate) was $1712.27
Did I get ripped off or get anything the wrong size?
I bought 18x7.5 5-114.3 (45s) Konig Tantrum rims with 235/40ZR-18 Kumho ECSTA SUPRA 712s... Total with fees, lugs and 4 free replacements (certificate) was $1712.27
Did I get ripped off or get anything the wrong size?
charlie
Re: Bought Tires... Riped off?
Originally posted by melteye
I bought 18x7.5 5-114.3 (45s) Konig Tantrum rims with 235/40ZR-18 Kumho ECSTA SUPRA 712s... Total with fees, lugs and 4 free replacements (certificate) was $1712.27
Did I get ripped off or get anything the wrong size?
I bought 18x7.5 5-114.3 (45s) Konig Tantrum rims with 235/40ZR-18 Kumho ECSTA SUPRA 712s... Total with fees, lugs and 4 free replacements (certificate) was $1712.27
Did I get ripped off or get anything the wrong size?
I really dont want o burst your bubble by telling you the deal I was able to get, so i wont even bother posting. Just one thing, you could be rolling on a much better wheel than a Konig, in a 8 inch width for a lot less. If you wanted 19's..well I wont even say anymore.. Take your time and shop around next time, and ask ORG members .
so obviously you can get a better deal... can you return them? There might be a restocking fee, but if that's less than the difference you'll save, return them!
and if they refuse, try this (worked for me but not with tires). The tires must be unused:
1. ship the tires with return receipt
2. call your credit card (you used a CC, right?) and dispute the charge... tell the CC people you returned the tires
3. wait.
One of a two things will happen. Hopefully nothing will happen. Or, you'll get a call from the tire people threatening to sue. It's a threat. Also, you have a signature from an employee of their store showing the tires were returned.
Good luck.
and if they refuse, try this (worked for me but not with tires). The tires must be unused:
1. ship the tires with return receipt
2. call your credit card (you used a CC, right?) and dispute the charge... tell the CC people you returned the tires
3. wait.
One of a two things will happen. Hopefully nothing will happen. Or, you'll get a call from the tire people threatening to sue. It's a threat. Also, you have a signature from an employee of their store showing the tires were returned.
Good luck.
Actually I bought from America's Tire Company and they ordered them (4 day wait)... I put a $200 deposit in (credit card) and was going to call them and ask them if I could cancel, but atm they are closed.
Think they will allow this? And if they do, do you think they'll just keep the deposit (who gives a **** i can get it ALOT cheaper from Whalen).
Kloogy, I don't want 19s because of ride quality and road noise, but what 18" would you recommend? I can buy 18x8 Konigs with the same size tire (good?) for $500 cheaper then what I payed for... Anything better?
Think they will allow this? And if they do, do you think they'll just keep the deposit (who gives a **** i can get it ALOT cheaper from Whalen).
Kloogy, I don't want 19s because of ride quality and road noise, but what 18" would you recommend? I can buy 18x8 Konigs with the same size tire (good?) for $500 cheaper then what I payed for... Anything better?
ebay!!!
i am looking for konig myself and i have been watching ebay. go to auto parts and put in konig rims. the ones you got were going for betweeen 500-600 for the 4 rims alone. plus 50 shipping. not bad at all. but i like the rims you got. i was looking at the verdicts. it seems like everyone has the tantrums and the verdicts. they must be good rims. well burn up those tires and try to get them replace so you can get your $$$ worth.
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did you SIGN anything that says they can keep your deposit if you cancel the order? If so... you might be SOL.
If not, cancel the order and if they try to keep your deposit tell them you're going to dispute the charge and the card will never pay. They'll get ****ed, but (a lot of people don't know this) if the CC company gets too many disputed charges from a company, they'll up the rates or cancel them altogether so they can't take credit any more (pretty much putting them out of business). Companies don't like disputed charges so expect some yelling, but in the end they'll tell you to never do business with them again.
I'd still call your CC company anyway to make sure the charge doesn't hit, but I think you have 90 days to dispute it (don't quote me on that).
If not, cancel the order and if they try to keep your deposit tell them you're going to dispute the charge and the card will never pay. They'll get ****ed, but (a lot of people don't know this) if the CC company gets too many disputed charges from a company, they'll up the rates or cancel them altogether so they can't take credit any more (pretty much putting them out of business). Companies don't like disputed charges so expect some yelling, but in the end they'll tell you to never do business with them again.
I'd still call your CC company anyway to make sure the charge doesn't hit, but I think you have 90 days to dispute it (don't quote me on that).
Originally posted by melteye
Actually I bought from America's Tire Company and they ordered them (4 day wait)... I put a $200 deposit in (credit card) and was going to call them and ask them if I could cancel, but atm they are closed.
Think they will allow this? And if they do, do you think they'll just keep the deposit (who gives a **** i can get it ALOT cheaper from Whalen).
Kloogy, I don't want 19s because of ride quality and road noise, but what 18" would you recommend? I can buy 18x8 Konigs with the same size tire (good?) for $500 cheaper then what I payed for... Anything better?
Actually I bought from America's Tire Company and they ordered them (4 day wait)... I put a $200 deposit in (credit card) and was going to call them and ask them if I could cancel, but atm they are closed.
Think they will allow this? And if they do, do you think they'll just keep the deposit (who gives a **** i can get it ALOT cheaper from Whalen).
Kloogy, I don't want 19s because of ride quality and road noise, but what 18" would you recommend? I can buy 18x8 Konigs with the same size tire (good?) for $500 cheaper then what I payed for... Anything better?
"Cardholder acknowledges receipt of goods and/or services in the amount of the Total shown hereon and agrees to perform the obligations set forth in the Cardholder's agreement with the issuer"
but does the agreement include "nonrefundable deposit on all special orders"?
if not, you don't owe no matter what they say.
edit: and it must be noted on the agreement you SIGNED, not on some sign on the wall.
if not, you don't owe no matter what they say.
edit: and it must be noted on the agreement you SIGNED, not on some sign on the wall.
Originally posted by melteye
"Cardholder acknowledges receipt of goods and/or services in the amount of the Total shown hereon and agrees to perform the obligations set forth in the Cardholder's agreement with the issuer"
"Cardholder acknowledges receipt of goods and/or services in the amount of the Total shown hereon and agrees to perform the obligations set forth in the Cardholder's agreement with the issuer"
At least on the paper they gave me it doesn't say that... But they did have me sign a seperate paper for the deposit... Even if I can't get the deposit back I don't mind, just don't want to me stuck with the wheels!
Can they "MAKE" my pay all of it? hehehe
Can they "MAKE" my pay all of it? hehehe
No, they can't make you pay for all of it.
If it's not on the paper they gave you, you don't have to pay the deposit. Even if they gave you two 'receipts', one for the deposit and one for the balance, as long as it doesn't say
And "if you don't mind" giving away $200, IM me and I'll give you my home address. Heck, for $200 I'd even be willing to do the fighting for you. Just IM me your credit card number and mother's maiden name
.
Seriously, if the words "nonrefundable deposit on all special orders" (or something to that effect) aren't on the thing you signed, you don't owe any money.
If it's not on the paper they gave you, you don't have to pay the deposit. Even if they gave you two 'receipts', one for the deposit and one for the balance, as long as it doesn't say
And "if you don't mind" giving away $200, IM me and I'll give you my home address. Heck, for $200 I'd even be willing to do the fighting for you. Just IM me your credit card number and mother's maiden name
.Seriously, if the words "nonrefundable deposit on all special orders" (or something to that effect) aren't on the thing you signed, you don't owe any money.
Originally posted by melteye
At least on the paper they gave me it doesn't say that... But they did have me sign a seperate paper for the deposit... Even if I can't get the deposit back I don't mind, just don't want to me stuck with the wheels!
Can they "MAKE" my pay all of it? hehehe
At least on the paper they gave me it doesn't say that... But they did have me sign a seperate paper for the deposit... Even if I can't get the deposit back I don't mind, just don't want to me stuck with the wheels!
Can they "MAKE" my pay all of it? hehehe
I'll give them a call when they are open... But for now what would you recommend I buy? 18x8 Konig Tantrum +40 offset fit? Anything better for a similar price? (less then or around $226 rim)
Originally posted by melteye
I'll give them a call when they are open... But for now what would you recommend I buy? 18x8 Konig Tantrum +40 offset fit? Anything better for a similar price? (less then or around $226 rim)
I'll give them a call when they are open... But for now what would you recommend I buy? 18x8 Konig Tantrum +40 offset fit? Anything better for a similar price? (less then or around $226 rim)
Konigs are not bad- just VERY common. And if the wheels aren't on your car, you should be able to cancel the order. Give them a sob story. You got fired, etc, etc...
smoking something if you pay 239 a rim!
Originally posted by asu174
Talk to cobymoby. He can get RH Evos, Racing Harts, and Volks... I got mine for $239/each, but some of the RH Evos were cheaper...
Konigs are not bad- just VERY common. And if the wheels aren't on your car, you should be able to cancel the order. Give them a sob story. You got fired, etc, etc...
Talk to cobymoby. He can get RH Evos, Racing Harts, and Volks... I got mine for $239/each, but some of the RH Evos were cheaper...
Konigs are not bad- just VERY common. And if the wheels aren't on your car, you should be able to cancel the order. Give them a sob story. You got fired, etc, etc...
go to ebay and look for this seller: dohccivicnal1250
ask him a question to email him and tell him what you want.
at most you will pay 150 a rim for 18" tantrums
Re: smoking something if you pay 239 a rim!
Originally posted by kjpierce
are these chrome or what? 239 a rim. is that w/tire???
go to ebay and look for this seller: dohccivicnal1250
ask him a question to email him and tell him what you want.
at most you will pay 150 a rim for 18" tantrums
are these chrome or what? 239 a rim. is that w/tire???
go to ebay and look for this seller: dohccivicnal1250
ask him a question to email him and tell him what you want.
at most you will pay 150 a rim for 18" tantrums
If you want a good wheel, you've gotta pay more (which isn't that much to be honest). I'm tired of cheap knockoffs.
I called them... Heres the dialog:
Me: Hi... Yesterday I bought 4 rims, I need to cancel that order.
Them: Ok. Did you place a deposit or anything
Me: Ya. $200.
Them. Ok, come down and we'll cancel that for you.
Ok. I can now look around again.
Me: Hi... Yesterday I bought 4 rims, I need to cancel that order.
Them: Ok. Did you place a deposit or anything
Me: Ya. $200.
Them. Ok, come down and we'll cancel that for you.
Ok. I can now look around again.
lucky you lesson learned I guess
Originally posted by melteye
I called them... Heres the dialog:
Me: Hi... Yesterday I bought 4 rims, I need to cancel that order.
Them: Ok. Did you place a deposit or anything
Me: Ya. $200.
Them. Ok, come down and we'll cancel that for you.
Ok. I can now look around again.
I called them... Heres the dialog:
Me: Hi... Yesterday I bought 4 rims, I need to cancel that order.
Them: Ok. Did you place a deposit or anything
Me: Ya. $200.
Them. Ok, come down and we'll cancel that for you.
Ok. I can now look around again.
excellent, and don't forget to keep them in mind when price-shopping next time. You also might consider telling them why you cancelled the order and see if they'll drop their price.
Originally posted by melteye
I called them... Heres the dialog:
Me: Hi... Yesterday I bought 4 rims, I need to cancel that order.
Them: Ok. Did you place a deposit or anything
Me: Ya. $200.
Them. Ok, come down and we'll cancel that for you.
Ok. I can now look around again.
I called them... Heres the dialog:
Me: Hi... Yesterday I bought 4 rims, I need to cancel that order.
Them: Ok. Did you place a deposit or anything
Me: Ya. $200.
Them. Ok, come down and we'll cancel that for you.
Ok. I can now look around again.
Originally posted by melteye
So will I be ok with a 40mm offset? (18x8)
So will I be ok with a 40mm offset? (18x8)
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