The truth about the injen CAI
#43
Originally posted by blubyu2k2
Its the same model number for both. Injen has approved it to fit the 2k2 auto but Adventon hasn't updated there site
Its the same model number for both. Injen has approved it to fit the 2k2 auto but Adventon hasn't updated there site
OT: Blu I bought a B&M 264 tranny cooler that should go on tonight, doesn't look it will have any problem fitting in between the grill and the radiator.
#44
Originally posted by soopermax02
Actually, when I ordered mine I called "Phillip" at Injen to confirm it would fit on autos and he told me it was only guaranteed for 6-speeds. To my delight however it does fit, and there was even mention in the instructions about installation with atuo transmissions. It is now in fact listed on Injen.com that autos are fully supported.
OT: Blu I bought a B&M 264 tranny cooler that should go on tonight, doesn't look it will have any problem fitting in between the grill and the radiator.
Actually, when I ordered mine I called "Phillip" at Injen to confirm it would fit on autos and he told me it was only guaranteed for 6-speeds. To my delight however it does fit, and there was even mention in the instructions about installation with atuo transmissions. It is now in fact listed on Injen.com that autos are fully supported.
OT: Blu I bought a B&M 264 tranny cooler that should go on tonight, doesn't look it will have any problem fitting in between the grill and the radiator.
#46
Re: test?
Originally posted by T-bone
has anyone dynoed or ran their car at the track with and without this CAI? I'd like to see some numbers
has anyone dynoed or ran their car at the track with and without this CAI? I'd like to see some numbers
My butt dyno claims 10hp.
#49
Re: Re: test?
"question the validity" means it would have been more or less hp in the "optimum gear"?
Originally posted by soopermax02
Injen claims a dyno'ed 2k2 6 speed had a 13 HP increase. Some on the org question the validity of the test, as apparently it was done in 3rd gear (not the optimum choice).
My butt dyno claims 10hp.
Injen claims a dyno'ed 2k2 6 speed had a 13 HP increase. Some on the org question the validity of the test, as apparently it was done in 3rd gear (not the optimum choice).
My butt dyno claims 10hp.
#50
Re: Re: Re: test?
I don't know how accurate my 'butt dyno' is, but I would agree with Injen on the 13+ hp. The power increase may seem insignificant, but the main thing I've noticed is the throttle response, and the new-found willingness for the engine to rev. I've got a 2K2 auto, and when 3K comes up on the tach, the beast is unleashed. I scared the crap out of a few people as I floored it passing by. I just love how you can't tell it's even there until you punch it. My wife has yet to notice.
The install went very smoothly. It took me about 2 hours, and this was the first I've ever worked on any of my cars. (besides the FSTB and RSB I installed last week). The workmanship of the parts is hands down the best I've seen. It really looks nice under the hood.
I picked mine up from Adventon.com, (actually drove down there to save the $15 shipping) and they were great to work with. They have the best price around. I would recommend them highly.
Based on the location of the filter, I don't see any issues with it getting wet under normal rainy conditions. You'd have to really submerse your car under 2.5' of water to get it wet.
I'll try and get some sound recordings of the car under 'normal' driving conditions and under 'A$$ whooping' conditions to compare.
Anyhow... I would strongly recommend this mod to anyone who is even the slightest bit timid about modding their car. (like me)
The install went very smoothly. It took me about 2 hours, and this was the first I've ever worked on any of my cars. (besides the FSTB and RSB I installed last week). The workmanship of the parts is hands down the best I've seen. It really looks nice under the hood.
I picked mine up from Adventon.com, (actually drove down there to save the $15 shipping) and they were great to work with. They have the best price around. I would recommend them highly.
Based on the location of the filter, I don't see any issues with it getting wet under normal rainy conditions. You'd have to really submerse your car under 2.5' of water to get it wet.
I'll try and get some sound recordings of the car under 'normal' driving conditions and under 'A$$ whooping' conditions to compare.
Anyhow... I would strongly recommend this mod to anyone who is even the slightest bit timid about modding their car. (like me)
#51
Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by 2K2MAXSE-RIOUS
I don't know how accurate my 'butt dyno' is, but I would agree with Injen on the 13+ hp. The power increase may seem insignificant, but the main thing I've noticed is the throttle response, and the new-found willingness for the engine to rev. I've got a 2K2 auto, and when 3K comes up on the tach, the beast is unleashed. I scared the crap out of a few people as I floored it passing by. I just love how you can't tell it's even there until you punch it. My wife has yet to notice.
The install went very smoothly. It took me about 2 hours, and this was the first I've ever worked on any of my cars. (besides the FSTB and RSB I installed last week). The workmanship of the parts is hands down the best I've seen. It really looks nice under the hood.
I picked mine up from Adventon.com, (actually drove down there to save the $15 shipping) and they were great to work with. They have the best price around. I would recommend them highly.
Based on the location of the filter, I don't see any issues with it getting wet under normal rainy conditions. You'd have to really submerse your car under 2.5' of water to get it wet.
I'll try and get some sound recordings of the car under 'normal' driving conditions and under 'A$$ whooping' conditions to compare.
Anyhow... I would strongly recommend this mod to anyone who is even the slightest bit timid about modding their car. (like me)
I don't know how accurate my 'butt dyno' is, but I would agree with Injen on the 13+ hp. The power increase may seem insignificant, but the main thing I've noticed is the throttle response, and the new-found willingness for the engine to rev. I've got a 2K2 auto, and when 3K comes up on the tach, the beast is unleashed. I scared the crap out of a few people as I floored it passing by. I just love how you can't tell it's even there until you punch it. My wife has yet to notice.
The install went very smoothly. It took me about 2 hours, and this was the first I've ever worked on any of my cars. (besides the FSTB and RSB I installed last week). The workmanship of the parts is hands down the best I've seen. It really looks nice under the hood.
I picked mine up from Adventon.com, (actually drove down there to save the $15 shipping) and they were great to work with. They have the best price around. I would recommend them highly.
Based on the location of the filter, I don't see any issues with it getting wet under normal rainy conditions. You'd have to really submerse your car under 2.5' of water to get it wet.
I'll try and get some sound recordings of the car under 'normal' driving conditions and under 'A$$ whooping' conditions to compare.
Anyhow... I would strongly recommend this mod to anyone who is even the slightest bit timid about modding their car. (like me)
so u don't have any prob. yet with engine light coming on or anything right? and how did it fit on ur 2002 auto? b/c some people said it rubb against other parts little.... thanks
#53
Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by 2K2MAXSE-RIOUS
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and when you do record this puppy, make sure you do it from inside the cabin so that it's representative of what the driver will hear.
I HAVE heard this thing and it's sounds nicey nice
#54
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by ][ 35
very nice.. can't wait for the GD on the CAI ...
so u don't have any prob. yet with engine light coming on or anything right? and how did it fit on ur 2002 auto? b/c some people said it rubb against other parts little.... thanks
very nice.. can't wait for the GD on the CAI ...
so u don't have any prob. yet with engine light coming on or anything right? and how did it fit on ur 2002 auto? b/c some people said it rubb against other parts little.... thanks
#55
I think he was saying it lowered his MPG because he floored it more now to hear the intake... if you don't change how you drive it shouldn't change your mileage at all.
Originally posted by korasick
I have a question with how much the intakes lower miles per gallon, since one guy in his post mentioned it but i am not clear on it. Just wondering if change is noticable? Thanks
I have a question with how much the intakes lower miles per gallon, since one guy in his post mentioned it but i am not clear on it. Just wondering if change is noticable? Thanks
#56
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by T-bone
and when you do record this puppy, make sure you do it from inside the cabin so that it's representative of what the driver will hear.
I HAVE heard this thing and it's sounds nicey nice
and when you do record this puppy, make sure you do it from inside the cabin so that it's representative of what the driver will hear.
I HAVE heard this thing and it's sounds nicey nice
I'll do it this weekend and post.
CAN'T WAIT
#57
Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
I think he was saying it lowered his MPG because he floored it more now to hear the intake... if you don't change how you drive it shouldn't change your mileage at all.
I think he was saying it lowered his MPG because he floored it more now to hear the intake... if you don't change how you drive it shouldn't change your mileage at all.
I'm running about 22MPG.
#58
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by 2K2MAXSE-RIOUS
I handled the MAF with kid gloves (even put it inside a 1-gallon ziplock bag while it was disconnected). You also have to remember to disconnect the negative terminal to the battery, otherwise, you will get the SES light. As far as fitment on the auto... it's a bit tricky to get the filter to sit away from the auto tranny cable, but it's do-able. You just have to play with the spacing between pipes on the upper assembly to give yourself about 1" clearance on the bottom.
I handled the MAF with kid gloves (even put it inside a 1-gallon ziplock bag while it was disconnected). You also have to remember to disconnect the negative terminal to the battery, otherwise, you will get the SES light. As far as fitment on the auto... it's a bit tricky to get the filter to sit away from the auto tranny cable, but it's do-able. You just have to play with the spacing between pipes on the upper assembly to give yourself about 1" clearance on the bottom.
No SES or problems (desperately looking around for some wood type product).
Shaydz
#59
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by Shaydz
I was also careful with the MAF - and I never disconnected it. I also didn't disconnect the battery. You don't need to as long as you keep your keys away from the ignition. You are absolutely right about the filter and the tranny cable. A little adjusting of the upper and a little flex on the downpipe mount kept mine a good 1" from the cable.
No SES or problems (desperately looking around for some wood type product).
Shaydz
I was also careful with the MAF - and I never disconnected it. I also didn't disconnect the battery. You don't need to as long as you keep your keys away from the ignition. You are absolutely right about the filter and the tranny cable. A little adjusting of the upper and a little flex on the downpipe mount kept mine a good 1" from the cable.
No SES or problems (desperately looking around for some wood type product).
Shaydz
so how does the tranny cable look alike?
and can someone with no experience in car do this? or should i have it done by autoshop... i shopped around and they were saying it will cost about 150 to 200 just to install it... that is crazy... that is why i'm trying to do it myself so for people who don't know too much about car is is doable job?
#60
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
If you own a screw driver and ratchet set, you can do it. It's a basic "unscrew this, put that on, tighten those clamps" install.
Search for instructions Someone just posted a very good write-up with multiple pictures. Do not pay someone $200 (unless it's me - where do you live?).
Also, I have no idea what the tranny cable looks like but basically you don't want the intake pipe rubbing on anything. If it's rubbing, that's the tranny cable... adjust until it doesn't rub.
edit: here's one write-up
http://www.greghome.com/Greg's%20Garage/2002MaxSE/ColdAir.htm
Search for instructions Someone just posted a very good write-up with multiple pictures. Do not pay someone $200 (unless it's me - where do you live?).
Also, I have no idea what the tranny cable looks like but basically you don't want the intake pipe rubbing on anything. If it's rubbing, that's the tranny cable... adjust until it doesn't rub.
edit: here's one write-up
http://www.greghome.com/Greg's%20Garage/2002MaxSE/ColdAir.htm
Originally posted by ][ 35
okay i'm new to this modding world or looking under the car..
so how does the tranny cable look alike?
and can someone with no experience in car do this? or should i have it done by autoshop... i shopped around and they were saying it will cost about 150 to 200 just to install it... that is crazy... that is why i'm trying to do it myself so for people who don't know too much about car is is doable job?
okay i'm new to this modding world or looking under the car..
so how does the tranny cable look alike?
and can someone with no experience in car do this? or should i have it done by autoshop... i shopped around and they were saying it will cost about 150 to 200 just to install it... that is crazy... that is why i'm trying to do it myself so for people who don't know too much about car is is doable job?
#61
2k-2k1
Originally posted by krazyd
INJEN RACE DIVISION AIR INTAKE for 00-01 NISSAN MAXIMA SE ALL (POLISH) >> $225.29 Each
INJEN RACE DIVISION AIR INTAKE for 00-01 NISSAN MAXIMA SE ALL (POLISH) >> $225.29 Each
Is someone really going to start a GD anytime soon? If not, I'll just buy it from adventon.com.
Thanks guys,
J.
#62
Re: 2k-2k1
Originally posted by 00MaxSE
Anyone install the CAI on their 2k-2k1 5spds? Is the install just about the same as with the 2k2-2k3s? No problems? It seems like just about everyone that posted has a 2k2. Right now I have the Berk Tuning intake (no midpipe, just cone) that I bought from Cobymoby for like $50 or something. Should the Injen improve alot over the Berk?
Is someone really going to start a GD anytime soon? If not, I'll just buy it from adventon.com.
Thanks guys,
J.
Anyone install the CAI on their 2k-2k1 5spds? Is the install just about the same as with the 2k2-2k3s? No problems? It seems like just about everyone that posted has a 2k2. Right now I have the Berk Tuning intake (no midpipe, just cone) that I bought from Cobymoby for like $50 or something. Should the Injen improve alot over the Berk?
Is someone really going to start a GD anytime soon? If not, I'll just buy it from adventon.com.
Thanks guys,
J.
#65
Re: Re: Re: Re: 2k-2k1
Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
or did you mean installed?
or did you mean installed?
#66
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by ][ 35
okay i'm new to this modding world or looking under the car..
so how does the tranny cable look alike?
and can someone with no experience in car do this? or should i have it done by autoshop... i shopped around and they were saying it will cost about 150 to 200 just to install it... that is crazy... that is why i'm trying to do it myself so for people who don't know too much about car is is doable job?
okay i'm new to this modding world or looking under the car..
so how does the tranny cable look alike?
and can someone with no experience in car do this? or should i have it done by autoshop... i shopped around and they were saying it will cost about 150 to 200 just to install it... that is crazy... that is why i'm trying to do it myself so for people who don't know too much about car is is doable job?
It is really easy - just be careful with all the screws and such, save every piece, and go slow. If you hire someone and see what they do for $150, you'll be ****ed.
Now about the tranny cable:
OK, OK, so I ran out took a picture , hosted it and here it is.
You can see the accordian looking thing next to the filter.
You want at least that gap between them:
Shaydz
#67
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: test?
Originally posted by Shaydz
First of all DO NOT hire someone to do this.
It is really easy - just be careful with all the screws and such, save every piece, and go slow. If you hire someone and see what they do for $150, you'll be ****ed.
Now about the tranny cable:
OK, OK, so I ran out took a picture , hosted it and here it is.
You can see the accordian looking thing next to the filter.
You want at least that gap between them:
Shaydz
First of all DO NOT hire someone to do this.
It is really easy - just be careful with all the screws and such, save every piece, and go slow. If you hire someone and see what they do for $150, you'll be ****ed.
Now about the tranny cable:
OK, OK, so I ran out took a picture , hosted it and here it is.
You can see the accordian looking thing next to the filter.
You want at least that gap between them:
Shaydz
pictures does say 1000 words.... :-) thanks again...
#68
I have driven 3 cars with Injen'.. and my car on a daily basis. I cant justify telling you guys to fork out the extra $$ for it. If you feel it will do better go for it ! The only thing that counts is what you feel... I myself am hooked on Franken - Berk... SR20 ran a 12.9 with a home made intake... and 14.2 NA !.. I ran 12's in my stang with a stock intake !
#69
Originally posted by kloogy
SR20 ran a 12.9 with a home made intake... and 14.2 NA
SR20 ran a 12.9 with a home made intake... and 14.2 NA
#71
Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
Am I reading this right? With no mods besides the intake he went from 14.2 to 12.9? Or was there something else that was added along with the custom intake?
Am I reading this right? With no mods besides the intake he went from 14.2 to 12.9? Or was there something else that was added along with the custom intake?
NA: Naturally Aspirated
He hit the 12.9 on the "happy" juice.
#72
yes I quoted it because his post implied he went from 14.2 NA to 12.9 with an intake. Where is NOS mentioned in that post? And if he added NOS and the intake, WTF does it have to do with the cost/performance of an injen?
He's saying injen isn't worth the cost, then quotes NOS times to prove it? I went from 16.2 to 14.2... oh yeah, that was when I sold my ford F-150 and bought a 2k2 Max
He's saying injen isn't worth the cost, then quotes NOS times to prove it? I went from 16.2 to 14.2... oh yeah, that was when I sold my ford F-150 and bought a 2k2 Max
Originally posted by 8702
You didn't notice the "NA" after the 14.2? You even quoted it...
NA: Naturally Aspirated
He hit the 12.9 on the "happy" juice.
You didn't notice the "NA" after the 14.2? You even quoted it...
NA: Naturally Aspirated
He hit the 12.9 on the "happy" juice.
#74
Originally posted by 2k2wannabe
yes I quoted it because his post implied he went from 14.2 NA to 12.9 with an intake. Where is NOS mentioned in that post? And if he added NOS and the intake, WTF does it have to do with the cost/performance of an injen?
yes I quoted it because his post implied he went from 14.2 NA to 12.9 with an intake. Where is NOS mentioned in that post? And if he added NOS and the intake, WTF does it have to do with the cost/performance of an injen?
#75
Originally posted by SEturner
Kloogy's point is that SR20DEN ran a 14.2 with homemade intake, which is faster than most everybody with injen. He just added the 12.9 as an aside. If you were more familiar with the players involved, you would know about SR20DEN's NOS.
Kloogy's point is that SR20DEN ran a 14.2 with homemade intake, which is faster than most everybody with injen. He just added the 12.9 as an aside. If you were more familiar with the players involved, you would know about SR20DEN's NOS.
#76
Originally posted by soundmike
Which still negates the point of this discussion, we're trying to compare runs w/ and w/o intakes. Not w/ intake and runs w/ intake + NOS as that makes the comparison invalid.
Which still negates the point of this discussion, we're trying to compare runs w/ and w/o intakes. Not w/ intake and runs w/ intake + NOS as that makes the comparison invalid.
#77
Just to clear a few thing up here. SR ran a 14.1 with an intake and a UDP. But there is another mod everyone is forgetting and its called slicks. Now I know SR and he is a great driver but all this comparison over intake is stupid. I bought the injen because or great looks and very well designed fits like a glove. Some people would rather have a CAI than a WAI. I personally just liked the look and knew the gains were there so I bought the injen. It seems everyone on here tries to fight so hard saying what they have is best. I'm not just stating facts. Matt ran the best N/A time with a $25 ebay intake so if I am understanding this thread right then why pay $125-$150 for and frankencar or frankenberk when you can get one off ebay for $25 with the same gains as your berk. The reason I bought the injen was b/c of looks and its out of the engine bay and a great manufacture. I am not saying its the best b/c I know it probably doesn't gain anymore than a berk or frankencar so I wonder if I will get flamed now
#78
FLAME, FLAME, FLame
J/K. I agree with you Matt except I think the CAI in general, or maybe it's the long down tube creating a smooth vortex or whatever has other advantages over the short HAI's like the Pop charger, etc.
It's the way the engine adjusts to it. - Throttle response, taking RPM's to line on Auto shifts, and I think a big HP gain is to be expected when the weather is colder. The engine bay isn't going to cool down that much, but the engine is going to love that cold ambient air coming in. I didn't have a frankencar, or Berk or anything on before the Injen, but from the past 1000 or so posts I've read on this board and Max-world.org, I think the physics prove it out. Whatta ya think? I value your opinion, opinionated as it is (hehehe). I guess we'll see in Oct anyway how these do in colder weather.
Shaydz
#79
Re: FLAME, FLAME, FLame
yup I believe the injen will shine in cooler weatherI know a CAI is good for something b/c the blown guys gain 1-2 psi from just a CAI. Man i wanna be blown one day
Originally posted by Shaydz
J/K. I agree with you Matt except I think the CAI in general, or maybe it's the long down tube creating a smooth vortex or whatever has other advantages over the short HAI's like the Pop charger, etc.
It's the way the engine adjusts to it. - Throttle response, taking RPM's to line on Auto shifts, and I think a big HP gain is to be expected when the weather is colder. The engine bay isn't going to cool down that much, but the engine is going to love that cold ambient air coming in. I didn't have a frankencar, or Berk or anything on before the Injen, but from the past 1000 or so posts I've read on this board and Max-world.org, I think the physics prove it out. Whatta ya think? I value your opinion, opinionated as it is (hehehe). I guess we'll see in Oct anyway how these do in colder weather.
Shaydz
J/K. I agree with you Matt except I think the CAI in general, or maybe it's the long down tube creating a smooth vortex or whatever has other advantages over the short HAI's like the Pop charger, etc.
It's the way the engine adjusts to it. - Throttle response, taking RPM's to line on Auto shifts, and I think a big HP gain is to be expected when the weather is colder. The engine bay isn't going to cool down that much, but the engine is going to love that cold ambient air coming in. I didn't have a frankencar, or Berk or anything on before the Injen, but from the past 1000 or so posts I've read on this board and Max-world.org, I think the physics prove it out. Whatta ya think? I value your opinion, opinionated as it is (hehehe). I guess we'll see in Oct anyway how these do in colder weather.
Shaydz
#80
Re: Re: FLAME, FLAME, FLame
Originally posted by blubyu2k2
yup I believe the injen will shine in cooler weatherI know a CAI is good for something b/c the blown guys gain 1-2 psi from just a CAI. Man i wanna be blown one day
yup I believe the injen will shine in cooler weatherI know a CAI is good for something b/c the blown guys gain 1-2 psi from just a CAI. Man i wanna be blown one day
At least you have a start for a list of personality traits to look for...hehehe.
On Topic - Are you seeing the same rev to redline between shifts.
I just hit the 500 mile mark since the intake and this morning it seems the car just wants to GO! Even without getting on it. I'm not used to this throttle response. It just keeps getting better (as the ECU adjusts I think).
Shaydz