Well yesterday I received my upper and middle Z manifold. The hardware has not yet arrived and is actually on BO. I pulled off my manifold to check to see if the Z manifold would fit onto my lower intake manifold. Unfortunatly it does not, almost but still a ways off.. So I just rested the Z manifold in place to see how it would fit and all.



As you can see it fits a bit weird, hood clearance is a problem..

[Pic of hood closed on Z manifold


So it looks like I need to get the lower manifold still and take my hood off to do a dyno. If the #'s are good I will put a scoop in my hood to make this thing fit. Steve from Frankencar said he can definatly make me custom piping to get this thing to work (thanks steve!).

Heres a pic of the center manifold.


More pics here: http://members6.clubphoto.com/ethan5...ner-f8f1.phtml

As you can see the runners on this bad boy are supper short, the designe on this manifold looks very impressive. Big power gains should be seen from this. So I will say it again..













Can you say 250 NA FWHP? hehe..

 

The hood scoop should look interesting? Good Luck!

 

+3whp

 

You are completely insane for trying this.

 

Or just stupid.. I do have a bad feeling in my stomach over all this. It's just not really going good..

 

emax, you have a lot of ***** for trying this. Good luck and hope you get good gains after all the hard work.

 

I am very interested in seeing the results if you do carry through with this project. Good luck Ewok.

It will cost you more to get 250 N/A whp than over 250 juiced whp.

 

Well I have spent about $1400 on my current bolt on's. The Z setup is about a G with all teh work. I may throw in the towel on this though, I have not decided yet. I can start a little Z manifold polishing bussiness atleast, lol

 

By the way, what does NA stand for? I know it means without boost, turbo, sc, etc...but what does it stand for?

 

Naturally Aspirated

 

Naturally Aspirated

 

Yet again...

Naturally Aspirated

 

Damn, you dont take NO for an answer.....

 

N/A = Non applicable or not available

Ewok, you can make bling bling polishing and swapping cores.

 

Got to hand it to you to try this. Its guys like you that do stuff like this sucessfully (we hope) that pave the way for us chickens for future performance mods.

 

did anyone say Naturally Aspirated

 

...as opposed to forced induction?

Anyway, hey emax, this project may be just like your APC wing project that you ended up ditching

 

he's not throwing in the towel on this. i wont' let him. i'm gonna give him all the help and encouragement he needs and even an apexi fitler and intake piping. we think we found a hood scoop that will accomidate the bulge whre the manifold is but if the lower manifold from the Z is shorter and we take the heatshielding off the hood we MIGHT not even need it. i'll be next in line WHEN we get this to work, as long as there are good HP gains, that's why he's gonna dyno with no hood first to see if the hood work is even worth it. if not, Z polishing business

 

I think I did? Just in case:

"Naturally Aspirated"

Btw Z manifold polishing service would be cool. Might be interested in getting it done on my G35?

 

Rather than being Ricey, your new high rise hood will be Redneck.

 

Ewok, YOU GOT ***** OF STEEL mang!!!

You take apart the top of your manifold, like I swap stock for Stillen intakes to go to the dealer. LOL! It would be a COLD day in hell for me to take a 2K2 apart like that, actually even my 2K1.

I thank the CAR GODs this board has a few people like you around here or else the rest of us chickens would be SOL waiting on Stealin, Cattman, WSP, etc..

Are you sure you didn't accidentally buy a Maxima instead of a Honduh? J/K!

BTW, I checked your link, but did you take any pics of the top of the engine withOUT anything on it? I'd like to see what the intake "ports" to the head BELOW the manifold look like, since that's the ONLY way I'll ever see it. Hehe.

Good job AND PLEASE DON'T GIVE UP YET!!! Short intake runners are GREAT for making lots of hp up high.

We need to start a RAISE MONEY FOR EWOKs R&D fund!!!

 

Nice work...

I am definitely interestd in how this goes..

QUick question, what happens when you drive in to a nissan dealership for service with a Z-CAR intake manifold??

Keep us updated, i wish i had the time and money you do!!

I even bought new Rockford Fosgate Fanatic X 6" components for my car, and its been sitting in my room for a week!! NO TIME!!

ED

 

Ethan, u're gonna have those extra large mustang 5.0 hood soon good job!

 

Ethan, you have, by far, the best scenery for your install pictures.

Good luck with the dyno... just butt dyno it with no hood real quick , that would be a sight to see.

 

Thanks for all the nice words guys



This is gonna be a winter project for me I think, I will do a litle bit at a time. On like the 20th I will order the lower manifold I think.



MiniRX7, I know the owner and 3 mechanics at my dealership. They enjoy seeing what I do to my car. I'm not worried about waranty work. Besides I can pop this thing off in a few minutes


Ice2K1, sorry I dont have any pics of just the lower manifold. Next time I am in the area I will take a pic for you.

97GLE, there is a lot more work inolved before I can test it out.

 

Again this is why I truly enjoy being a motorhead. We like to take perfectly working parts and see how we can get other parts to some how fit even though they are not supposed to.

Thanks for the work and the pics

 

well ethan, i give you credit man... you are one crazy guy. only you would try something like this ! well like i say to you earlyer, good luck!

chris

 

Well if it's gonna be a while before you start get the lower Z manifold bolt it all up and send it off to extrudehone and get all you can out of it.

I may have missed it earlier but are you also getting a Z TB & MAF? and maybe a ECU?

The lower manifold might be a little shorter also. If not...
CAI RamAir through the hood

Thanks for having the cahones for even trying this!

If you can get around the possible ECU probs. then I would think this should be atleast a 30+ hp gain.

Good luck!

 

I came up with a awesome idea today! I may be able to make this bad boy work with the stock hood My plan is to chop the big bend off at the end of the manifold(where the TB connects) and have a shop weld on a straight piece of smooth piping. This will possiblty give me the required hood clearance!! We will see what happenss here, but like i said this will work

 

good luck. hope this work out for you

 

emax good luck. it sounds like its not just a job but an adventure.

btw peeps NA is S/C or turbo.

or both.

i couldnt resist.

 

oh god here we go again, i actually wouldn't mind having the hood scoop. my hood had those two dimples in it anyway so i might just buy a hood from a junk yard and then do the work oin that one and have ti painted and be hood scoop maxima we'll see.

 

If you could get it working with the stock hood and no scoop that would be sweet. It would give it a much nicer sleeper look to it then the scoop would allow. But either way impressive gains could be found here.

SuDZ

 

NA is naturally aspirated, which means no forced induction, which means NO supercharger, turbo, or nitrous.

 

i'm ordering the lower manifold, hood scoop and the bolts needed to complete the install and ethan is gonna let me borrow his upper and cneter manifold and we're gonnna try to get it on my car and go and dyno my car. if it all works i'll just buy him a new upper and center piece. if not we're both out a few hundred bucks and we'll start a Z intake polishing business and i'll prolly put the hood scoop on anyway cus it looks kewl lol. so hopefully by the end of the month we'll have an answer as to whether or not this will work, a detailed write up and dyno numbers. i want my 250WHP. now if i only had non blown motor mounts.

 

maybe a hood scoop version and a stock hood version i'd love to add this to my car if it works but if i have to have a hood scoop i seriously doubt i would do it.

 

hood scoop...kinda like the WRX?

 

EXTRUDE HONE! Especially since this isn't a matched set. You will have 3 unmatched pieces and 2 places inside the manifold that maybe a CH off that could go all around each runner. This will also give you atleast 15 extra hp if not more.

 

If this project ever gets off the ground and a hood scoop is needed, I suggest a hood bump. Like the ones on the Eagle Talons or Eclipses. Scoops just aren't right if your intake ain't using it.

 

I agree, I call it a hood bulge though The hood I will model mine after (if needed) will be a 1990 mustang cobra hood. It has very clean lines and effectively raises the hood about 2 inches. And then at the back there is a nice clean litle vent which will help reduce under hood tempts. The catch with this is the cost ($500-600).



In other news.. Looks like tomarrow I am going to order the bottom piece of this intake. I figure; I started this project I am gonna finish it damn it