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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 12:07 AM
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who will win

i did a search but didnt find the answer
i was wondering which will be a better buy

a 2002 maxima or 2000 honda s2000?????
or the wrx

which one will win in a race???? s2000 vs 02maxima vs wrx

thanks
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 12:21 AM
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Re: who will win

Originally posted by krmaxima
i did a search but didnt find the answer
i was wondering which will be a better buy

a 2002 maxima or 2000 honda s2000?????
or the wrx

which one will win in a race???? s2000 vs 02maxima vs wrx

thanks
Assuming all are auto, Honda s2000 would be the fastest. (Also assuming the driver in the S2000 can drive.) WRX would be the slowest out of the bunch, but would haul **** on the launch.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 01:15 AM
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um... actually the max would be left in the dust of the WRX and S2000. The S2000 would be fastest followed by the WRX and then the Max
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AznWontonboy who will win
i did a search but didnt find the answer
i was wondering which will be a better buy
a 2002 maxima or 2000 honda s2000?????
or the wrx which one will win in a race???? s2000 vs 02maxima vs wrx
thanks

Originally posted by AznWontonboy
Assuming all are auto, Honda s2000 would be the fastest. (Also assuming the driver in the S2000 can drive.) WRX would be the slowest out of the bunch, but would haul **** on the launch.
Now that would be assuming Honda made the S2000 in automatic fashion. If I'm not mistaken, it only comes in 5/6 speed manual tranny form. I believe that 0-60 comes in about 5.8 seconds. The WRX comes in both auto and 5/6 spd, but at only 227hp compared to the S2000's 240, I think it may lag a bit, although I've heard numbers between 5.8 and 6.2 to 60... As far as the Max... I've heard/seen 6.0 - 7.0+ depending on tranny... sounds like Eleebob7 called the race! S2000 > WRX > Maxima

As far as the original question as to which would be the better buy. The maxima/I35 of course! Seats 5, looks great, has the biggest gas tank and I believe gets better gas mileage than the other two!
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 01:24 AM
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well... considering we all know the s2000 would kill both... and my bro and I raced (he has a wrx) and he pretty much killed me... yeah...

Not saying i'm a crappy driver but the amount of fumes i was eating... shouldn't have mattered how crappy of a start I had
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 05:19 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: who will win

Originally posted by Eleebob7
well... considering we all know the s2000 would kill both... and my bro and I raced (he has a wrx) and he pretty much killed me... yeah...

Not saying i'm a crappy driver but the amount of fumes i was eating... shouldn't have mattered how crappy of a start I had
Your sig says "completely stock" I doubt the S2000 was.

There are videos of an Altima beating an S2000.

blubyu2k2 spanked a WRX 3 times saturday night.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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say all stick th maxima 6 speed the s2000 6speed and the wrx 5 speed. i thought the wrx would win and then s2000 and maxima but not sure because i havent driven any of them.

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Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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1/4 mile, circuit, or rally?

Assuming all are stock and all are same transmission:
1/4 - S2000, WRX, Max
Circuit - S2000, WRX, Max
Rally - WRX, Max. The S2000 would be wrapped around a tree so it wouldn't finish.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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just sit in an s2000 and youll make up your mind then and there
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Average everyday driving skills: Max, WRX, S2000
Race car driver: S2000, WRK, Max.

You really have to beat the S2000 and WRX to get good times, the Max is a lot easier to drive. No clutch dumping at 6000 rpm.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Average everyday driving skills: Max, WRX, S2000
I agree with that.

Race car driver: S2000, MAX, WRX

I dont know why you guys think the WRX is faster than the Max. First of all best stock time of the S2000 to date is 13.66 in the 1/4 according to their forum. I have seen a '02 Max 6 spd do 14.2 in the 1/4 at Steele, AL. The best WRX time I know of is 14.3. Maybe I am wrong but I would put money on the Max winning a higher percentage of the time than the WRX.
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well the day i was running 14.8's there was a wrx running 14.7's with a boost controller at 16psi. Don't ask about the slaughtering of a wrx wagon. It was pathetic
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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This comparison is pointless; the cars aren't in the same category. If you are considering a Maxima (5-passenger sedan), why would you consider an S2000 (2-passenger roadster)? Look at some cars that are in the same universe before asking us which is better.

Overall--the Maxima is the best combination of room, comfort, and performance; you really don't have to sacrifice anything with it.
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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and i bet the honda nor the wrx come with nissan complimentary "paint chips"!!!

imo, i would look at the G35 before the honda.
the coupe that is, w/ 6spd ,260hp and rwd.....oops , i'm drooling again

just my 10 cents, my 2cents are free!
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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well i was searching the wrx forum, they say that the wrx will beat the s2000 i nteh 1/4 mile but on curves the s2000 will win

weird
Old Sep 30, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by krmaxima
well i was searching the wrx forum, they say that the wrx will beat the s2000 i nteh 1/4 mile but on curves the s2000 will win

weird
This is about right. The Max would be last

My friend's S2000 is does not launch fast at all unless you drop the clutch at 6000RPM... how many times could you get away with that?... I have driven it many times & it is fast, but the WRX is crazy fast when the boost kicks in.

S2000 = no low-end power at all!!! However, VTEC = Steroids = Crazy Power (feels like turbo)

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Old Oct 1, 2002 | 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by 02MaXiMa_GLE


This is about right. The Max would be last

My friend's S2000 is does not launch fast at all unless you drop the clutch at 6000RPM... how many times could you get away with that?... I have driven it many times & it is fast, but the WRX is crazy fast when the boost kicks in.

S2000 = no low-end power at all!!! However, VTEC = Steroids = Crazy Power (feels like turbo)

G
Does anyone else find it amusing that in each forum. at least one person says that the car the forum's for... will win... (ie max will win in this one)

Does anyone even bother with the truth instead of going off of pride?
just wondering... and no intentions of offense
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by krmaxima
well i was searching the wrx forum, they say that the wrx will beat the s2000 i nteh 1/4 mile but on curves the s2000 will win

weird
wrx's run mid 14's stock if i'm not mistaking.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2


wrx's run mid 14's stock if i'm not mistaking.
Everyone likes to comment about how the magazines drive like grandmas, well C&D timed the WRX at 14.1. My friend's stock WRX ran 14.3 at the track while I could only manage 14.82 - same track same day.
And yes, it's very dependant on driver, because there were 2 other WRX's at the track on another day, and they were running anywhere from 15 to 16. Maybe they were auto, I dunno.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by Kojiro_FtT

Everyone likes to comment about how the magazines drive like grandmas, well C&D timed the WRX at 14.1. My friend's stock WRX ran 14.3 at the track while I could only manage 14.82 - same track same day.
And yes, it's very dependant on driver, because there were 2 other WRX's at the track on another day, and they were running anywhere from 15 to 16. Maybe they were auto, I dunno.
Well i'm not commenting froma freakin magazine. I have been to the track 4 times and never seen one wrx break 14.6 modded except for one running 12.9's. So take your comments about the driver elsewere cause it ain't my fault some peeps can't drive.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:23 AM
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btw, if you have ever heard a S2000 at VTEC, it doesnt sound like "beating" the car. It sounds freaking amazing. I have to say, nothing quite sounds like it, outside of F1. You can tell it was made for those RPMs, they werent an afterthought. Then its all gearing and a good driver.

I've been in one with a good driver. I'm not sure I've seen much handle like it (drove it, but didnt toss it around cause it wasnt my car). It was alot more fun than driving a NSX.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 08:52 AM
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btw, if you have ever heard a S2000 at VTEC, it doesnt sound like "beating" the car. It sounds freaking amazing. I have to say, nothing quite sounds like it, outside of F1. You can tell it was made for those RPMs, they werent an afterthought. Then its all gearing and a good driver.

I've been in one with a good driver. I'm not sure I've seen much handle like it (drove it, but didnt toss it around cause it wasnt my car). It was alot more fun than driving a NSX.
Old Oct 1, 2002 | 11:11 AM
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on the track the max would probably be last more often then not including the 1/4 mile with all drivers having equal skill, but on the street where most drivers of the wrx and s2000 won't beat on their cars like they have to in order to get that killer launch to the next stop light or when your at speeds above 40ph were the the wrx gets owned by both cars the max can still hold its' own. now i wonder how well a 6 speed max would keep up with a s2000 from 0-100mph
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I don't know about who will win, but I do know this: I would take the S2000 hands down over the Maxima or WRX if I could afford it.
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From a dead stop, S2000 first, 2k2 Maxima, then WRX.
*note* the fastest 2k2 maximas that have run are running 2.3 or higher 60ft times, and still managing 14.2-14.3, factor in a 2.1 60ft and u have a 13.9-14.0. The WRX, best times are 14.1(magazine) and even the best people have seen is in that range, and AWD is already pulling the best 60ft it can pull on its stock tires.

From a roll, S2000, Maxima then WRX.
Trap speeds indicate this. WRX trap speeds are very low. Maxima traps in the upper 90s, 97-99, the S2000 breaks 100mph.

Circuit Racing, S2000, and Maxima and WRX would be close.
WRX wasnt designed to be a track car, read the reviews, the STi on the other hand would be a whole different story. Maxima wasn't designed as a track car either, but with proper tire pressure, it can probably hold its own against a WRX. S2000 was born and bred for the circuit.

None of this includes driver skill, hence the reason i put the maximas capable time instead of what weve seen. Assuming all 3 cars are driven to perfection, this is what the outcomes would be. Most dont argue about the roll on or circuit, but there seems to be some confusion from a dead stop. In any case, if all 3 cars nailed the launch, and then proceeded to shift flawlessly and to perfection, the S2000 would come out on top, Maxima second, followed closely by the WRX.
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The other day I raced a WRX on a local highway over here, rt22.

I saw him pass by on the curves at about 70, I was doing 40 on cruise control(looking for a race )

As soon as we got to the straightaway I gunned it and passed him a little bit, road was clear.He looked over, it was a guy in his 20's and I thought I was going to get smoked because I saw a bunch of gauges in his pillar and had some lightweight looking rims.

We both took off at about 50 and by 120 I had about 4 cars on him.

My guess, he probably had a fast car, but couldn't drive it, because I know there is no WRX being taken that bad from 50 to 120.
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I have a friend that has a 2000 S2k and while it's close I usually win with mt 2k2 auto on street and track. He has a cold air intake. I've raced 2 other S2k's and beat both. While stats show the S2k being faster, I believe it's all up to the driver. S2k's have no low end torque.
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Originally posted by tbirdrob
This comparison is pointless; the cars aren't in the same category. If you are considering a Maxima (5-passenger sedan), why would you consider an S2000 (2-passenger roadster)? Look at some cars that are in the same universe before asking us which is better.

Overall--the Maxima is the best combination of room, comfort, and performance; you really don't have to sacrifice anything with it.
ditto
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Interesting thread..

My bud has an S2000 with custom everything (exhaust, coilovers, cold air intake, etc)..

On a roll.. we were dead even until i started to pull on him....

Its interesting becuase both cars a relatively fast, and fairly close int erms of straightline performance numbers.

Mind you i am totally stock!! and i had an extra person in my car..

THe s2000 guy was totally shocked (also he is an experienced auto crosser as well)..

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bear in mind that most honda high output small engine cars, have to be driven VERY well and almost flawlessly to pull the best times, and to even win from a roll. People say theyve never seen RSX Type S ever break into the 14s, yet everyone seems to believe it is possible bc it has been done. Honda cars bc of their low torque, there isnt a lot of room for error.
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wrx or s2000 then max
Old Oct 13, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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people are running 14.1-14.2 with like 2.3-2.4 60fts on a maxima. a better launch and the wrx is no contest. emax95 who has intake, ypipe and catback on his 2k2, ran 14.2s consistently with 2.4 60fts, few days ago he managed a 2.24X 60ft and ran 13.886 @ 100.96mph, a WRX runs slower than that from a stop, and from a roll its no contest, show me one stock WRX trapping like stock 2k2 6spds. Ive heard of some S2000 breaking 13s totally stock, so i wont go as far as to say that a maxima will take it easily, but id say between s2000 and 2k2 maxima, itll come down to drivers.
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the max looks the best out of the 3 but, Ive seen a wrx race some teg and the wrx doesnt get a very good start, it started slow (prolly because of the crappy driver skills) and then it pulls. But I dont think its fair to compare cars that are different, like rwd, more power potental, 4wd, i dunno. I thnik we should compare the max with some other FWD sedan, ex: 3.2tl-s
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comparing the maxima with a TLS/CLS, and ur asking for a acura vs nissan flame war. those of us who have been here a while know i speak the truth.
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if someone is looking for an all out sports car then get the S2000, if you want the sports car with a little more driveability then you get the WRX, and if you want the sports car with luxory then you get the Max.

S2000 are 30k, they only have 2 seats and are designed to be honda's fastest car, NSX being of Acura. they are fast with the high reving motor and RWD but you got no back seat.

the WRX starts at about 25k, with about 5k in mods you looking at a car that would walk all over a S2000, OFF THE HIGHWAY. these cars are only made for accel and not top speed. the AWD and 5 speed limit the car from really being able to go fast on the highway. but you will find some modded WRX's with 60' times tht would make a Ferrari blush.

as for the max, well most of you know why you bought it so no need to go into details there.

but if someone is looking for a cheap sports car i would flat out say the WRX is the best buy hands down. only flaw of that car is the transmission.
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umm, Acura is only in US, so NSX is still Honda's fastest car, S2000 is Honda's roadster. Also the reason for the WRX lack of highway power, is bc it has a larger drivetrain losses than the Maxima or S2000, stock WRX, have around 165WHP, 2k2 Maxima 6spd has around 205-210 and S2000 has around 200-210. With 5k in mods to a WRX, u would walk all over the Maxima and S2000 ANYWHERE.
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me vs s2000

last sunday i was goin home from church and i see this white s2000 with exhausts intake lowered and everything...i just drive a lil behind him and thank God there was a red light and we were first with a another car in between us. i really wanted to race but i didnt know what was goin on the head of the s2000 driver as soon as green light hit he floored his car, so i floored it too.(i had 4 ppl in my car, and he was alone) so as we pulled out of the light he had a little head start but i pulled on him with ease and had a good 1 1/2 car length in front of him but at 80 he just pulled on me and got a good car length in front of me but there was another light and cars in front of us so i slowed down didnt really get to floor it at 80. i gotta say s2000 is fast but hell maximas are pretty damn fast too so who cares. oh on side note im drivin a stock 2002 auto and he had a 6speed with who knows wut
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: who will win

Originally posted by SR20DEN


blubyu2k2 spanked a WRX 3 times saturday night.
Wow cool,
Is he stock? Or nearly so?

Fred...
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I like the look on peoples' faces when family sedans rip holes in sports cars

I think the maxima has the most potential...given the largest engine, with the same mods as the other cars (turbo, exhaust, intake, SC, etc) the max would benefit the most out of the mods..

I dare anyone to put a turbo on a 2k2 max!
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Wow cool,
Is he stock? Or nearly so?

Fred...
or was it auto vs. manual and the manual wrx didn't know how to rive?

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