Question about immobilizer chip
10-07-2002, 01:04 PM
#1
Question about immobilizer chip
Does the chip need to be in the vicinity of the ignition all the time?
Let's say, for some reason, I ripped out the chip from the key. If I take that key and try to start the car, of course it won't work. If I put the chip in the ignition area and start the car, it will.
Now my question... what if I started the car with the key and chip, but I suddenly pull the chip away from the ignition. The car will not die, correct? I just want to confirm before I throw more cash into the money pit.
Thanks in advance.
Let's say, for some reason, I ripped out the chip from the key. If I take that key and try to start the car, of course it won't work. If I put the chip in the ignition area and start the car, it will.
Now my question... what if I started the car with the key and chip, but I suddenly pull the chip away from the ignition. The car will not die, correct? I just want to confirm before I throw more cash into the money pit.
Thanks in advance.
10-07-2002, 01:20 PM
#2
I'm pretty sure you're right. I think the chip is just for the starter and not the ignition. That's why if the car is standard you could probably jump start it. You might want to try and jump start it without the chip and see if it works. If it does, then you know you don't need the chip. Or, you could just try and move the chip and see what happens.
What are you working on? Keep us posted.
What are you working on? Keep us posted.
10-07-2002, 01:49 PM
#4
I know the car cranks if direct power is given to the starter... but we never gave power to it long enough to see if it started without the key (I doubt it would).
Nothing shady is happening. I just want to make sure a turbo timer works.
Thanks guys.
Nothing shady is happening. I just want to make sure a turbo timer works.
Thanks guys.
10-07-2002, 01:55 PM
#5
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Join Date: Feb 2001
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
I know the car cranks if direct power is given to the starter... but we never gave power to it long enough to see if it started without the key (I doubt it would).
Nothing shady is happening. I just want to make sure a turbo timer works.
Thanks guys.
I know the car cranks if direct power is given to the starter... but we never gave power to it long enough to see if it started without the key (I doubt it would).
Nothing shady is happening. I just want to make sure a turbo timer works.
Thanks guys.
Although thats a point I would not have thought about. For the TT to operate you need some ignition control. Nice catch.
10-07-2002, 02:00 PM
#7
10-07-2002, 02:06 PM
#8
Originally posted by asu174
Did you see this thread?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=156510
Did you see this thread?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=156510
I was following it for a while, but stopped. I asked. Thank you.
10-07-2002, 02:13 PM
#9
http://www.autopageusa.com/autopageusaubm3.htm
not that its the answer to your question but may give you nefarious ideas...
not that its the answer to your question
but may give you nefarious ideas...
10-07-2002, 05:47 PM
#10
Originally posted by TimW
http://www.autopageusa.com/autopageusaubm3.htm
not that its the answer to your question but may give you nefarious ideas...
http://www.autopageusa.com/autopageusaubm3.htm
not that its the answer to your question
but may give you nefarious ideas...
Thanks!
10-07-2002, 08:32 PM
#11
Re: Question about immobilizer chip
i didn't check those other posts, but the answer is:
the chip only starts the car. if it's in the vicinity of the ignition, the car will turn on. once on, you do not need hte chip anymore. this is also how you are able to remote start cars with immobilizer chips. a black box that holds an extra key is placed somewhere hidden in the car. when you activate remote start, a pulse is sent to this box, which activates the chips code. in that split second that the chip is active, the car will turn on, the pulse will shut down, the chip will deactivate, and the car will stay on.
you are thinking, someone can easily find your key, and just drive away with your car. 2 choices for this:
1) rip the key off the chip and just leave the chip in the box.
2) do a good job at hiding it.
old fashioned way of doing remote start prior to this bypass module was taping the chip around the ignition. that left the chip around the area 24/7. the problems with that arose when you would turn on the car with your key, and the car would then see 2 keys. the one taped around the ignition and your own. this created problems.
again, i didn't bother lookin at the other threads, so this may be repetitive, but a pretty savvy installer told me all this, and he knows his sh*t.
the chip only starts the car. if it's in the vicinity of the ignition, the car will turn on. once on, you do not need hte chip anymore. this is also how you are able to remote start cars with immobilizer chips. a black box that holds an extra key is placed somewhere hidden in the car. when you activate remote start, a pulse is sent to this box, which activates the chips code. in that split second that the chip is active, the car will turn on, the pulse will shut down, the chip will deactivate, and the car will stay on.
you are thinking, someone can easily find your key, and just drive away with your car. 2 choices for this:
1) rip the key off the chip and just leave the chip in the box.
2) do a good job at hiding it.
old fashioned way of doing remote start prior to this bypass module was taping the chip around the ignition. that left the chip around the area 24/7. the problems with that arose when you would turn on the car with your key, and the car would then see 2 keys. the one taped around the ignition and your own. this created problems.
again, i didn't bother lookin at the other threads, so this may be repetitive, but a pretty savvy installer told me all this, and he knows his sh*t.
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Does the chip need to be in the vicinity of the ignition all the time?
Let's say, for some reason, I ripped out the chip from the key. If I take that key and try to start the car, of course it won't work. If I put the chip in the ignition area and start the car, it will.
Now my question... what if I started the car with the key and chip, but I suddenly pull the chip away from the ignition. The car will not die, correct? I just want to confirm before I throw more cash into the money pit.
Thanks in advance.
Does the chip need to be in the vicinity of the ignition all the time?
Let's say, for some reason, I ripped out the chip from the key. If I take that key and try to start the car, of course it won't work. If I put the chip in the ignition area and start the car, it will.
Now my question... what if I started the car with the key and chip, but I suddenly pull the chip away from the ignition. The car will not die, correct? I just want to confirm before I throw more cash into the money pit.
Thanks in advance.
10-08-2002, 06:26 AM
#12
Re: Re: Question about immobilizer chip
Originally posted by PoLo
i didn't check those other posts, but the answer is:
the chip only starts the car. if it's in the vicinity of the ignition, the car will turn on. once on, you do not need hte chip anymore. this is also how you are able to remote start cars with immobilizer chips. a black box that holds an extra key is placed somewhere hidden in the car. when you activate remote start, a pulse is sent to this box, which activates the chips code. in that split second that the chip is active, the car will turn on, the pulse will shut down, the chip will deactivate, and the car will stay on.
you are thinking, someone can easily find your key, and just drive away with your car. 2 choices for this:
1) rip the key off the chip and just leave the chip in the box.
2) do a good job at hiding it.
old fashioned way of doing remote start prior to this bypass module was taping the chip around the ignition. that left the chip around the area 24/7. the problems with that arose when you would turn on the car with your key, and the car would then see 2 keys. the one taped around the ignition and your own. this created problems.
again, i didn't bother lookin at the other threads, so this may be repetitive, but a pretty savvy installer told me all this, and he knows his sh*t.
i didn't check those other posts, but the answer is:
the chip only starts the car. if it's in the vicinity of the ignition, the car will turn on. once on, you do not need hte chip anymore. this is also how you are able to remote start cars with immobilizer chips. a black box that holds an extra key is placed somewhere hidden in the car. when you activate remote start, a pulse is sent to this box, which activates the chips code. in that split second that the chip is active, the car will turn on, the pulse will shut down, the chip will deactivate, and the car will stay on.
you are thinking, someone can easily find your key, and just drive away with your car. 2 choices for this:
1) rip the key off the chip and just leave the chip in the box.
2) do a good job at hiding it.
old fashioned way of doing remote start prior to this bypass module was taping the chip around the ignition. that left the chip around the area 24/7. the problems with that arose when you would turn on the car with your key, and the car would then see 2 keys. the one taped around the ignition and your own. this created problems.
again, i didn't bother lookin at the other threads, so this may be repetitive, but a pretty savvy installer told me all this, and he knows his sh*t.
So, since the immobilizer chip only affects startup, the chip will not need to be in the vicinity when the turbo timer is working.
10-08-2002, 07:00 AM
#14
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 1,223
Re: Re: Question about immobilizer chip
Originally posted by PoLo
1) rip the key off the chip and just leave the chip in the box.
2) do a good job at hiding it.
old fashioned way of doing remote start prior to this bypass module was taping the chip around the ignition. that left the chip around the area 24/7. the problems with that arose when you would turn on the car with your key, and the car would then see 2 keys. the one taped around the ignition and your own. this created problems.
1) rip the key off the chip and just leave the chip in the box.
2) do a good job at hiding it.
old fashioned way of doing remote start prior to this bypass module was taping the chip around the ignition. that left the chip around the area 24/7. the problems with that arose when you would turn on the car with your key, and the car would then see 2 keys. the one taped around the ignition and your own. this created problems.
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