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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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350Z at track today

There was a 350Z Auto at the track today. He had some type of exhaust (really loud and whiney) and intake. He was running 14.6's at 94mph. He was cutting consistant 2.1 60fts. The more I look at the door handles the less I like the car. I think the G Coupe looks nicer with the horizontal handle rather than the aluminized verticle handle.
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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I know I drive an auto but no way in hell I would buy a true sports coupe with an auto. Those traps show what your car is capable of with better 60's. BTW your in Arizona correct whats the temps like when you ran?
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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It was in the high 60's this morning, and like 83deg this afternoon.
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Re: 350Z at track today

Originally posted by 2000 SE
There was a 350Z Auto at the track today. He had some type of exhaust (really loud and whiney) and intake. He was running 14.6's at 94mph. He was cutting consistant 2.1 60fts. The more I look at the door handles the less I like the car. I think the G Coupe looks nicer with the horizontal handle rather than the aluminized verticle handle.
Is that car capable of sub-2sec 60fts? (even with the 6spd)
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2
I know I drive an auto but no way in hell I would buy a true sports coupe with an auto. Those traps show what your car is capable of with better 60's. BTW your in Arizona correct whats the temps like when you ran?
You need to realize that your track may be quicker than others. You really can't compare your car's performance to another car at a different track.


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Old Nov 10, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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You need to realize that your track may be quicker than others. You really can't compare your car's performance to another car at a different track.


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WTH are you talking about. I was not comparing my cars performance to any others. I was comparing the 350z's traps to 2000 se's showing that with a better 60' he is capable of the same times of the 350z's. Whats your deal man first you make a retarded post on my thread now you say something even dumber here. Lay off and reread my post before speaking nonsense.
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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Re: 350Z at track today

Originally posted by 2000 SE
There was a 350Z Auto at the track today. He had some type of exhaust (really loud and whiney) and intake. He was running 14.6's at 94mph. He was cutting consistant 2.1 60fts. The more I look at the door handles the less I like the car. I think the G Coupe looks nicer with the horizontal handle rather than the aluminized verticle handle.
Dang!! It ran that "slow"?!? My auto 2K2 w/32 less HP runs a 14.7. But, this may be what Sport Compact Car showed when it installed a performance exhaust on the Z: it actually got slower.
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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hmm I would hope for better. I ran a 14.7@95mph with a crappy 2.6 sec 60ft in my 2k2 6-Speed. Maybe the car isn't broken in or the guy had the e-brake on.
Old Nov 10, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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Thats pretty weak for a new Z. 94 MPH is not impressive at all..
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 05:36 AM
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nothing against nissan or anything but that is the sorriest excuse for a sports car. they never should have made it NA. the twin turbo model was far superior. people who do write ups on cars dont have too many good things to say about it. personally your better off buying a WRX .
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 05:48 AM
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Originally posted by MAX0830
nothing against nissan or anything but that is the sorriest excuse for a sports car. they never should have made it NA. the twin turbo model was far superior. people who do write ups on cars dont have too many good things to say about it. personally your better off buying a WRX .
Dude, the TT-Z's could barely run high 14's from the factory, and I have read nothing but good things about the new Z. Where are you getting your info from?!?!
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Dude, the TT-Z's could barely run high 14's from the factory, and I have read nothing but good things about the new Z. Where are you getting your info from?!?!
I would also be curious to see were this info came from.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 06:33 AM
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Maybe the guy in the 350Z was leaving it in D, and not manually shifting it. He did mention something interesting though "the stock exhaust system weighed over 70lbs"!

He said he wants to put "NOS" on it so he can break 14's.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by blubyu2k2


I would also be curious to see were this info came from.


I'm wondering the same thing. High 14s for a TTZ?
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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Alright guys, when I get home from work, I'm gonna find the info, and pull your punk cards! The TT-Z's weighed 3600#'s empty, and when new ran 14.9-14.6's@96 mph, I've got some motor trend archives around here somewhere, better yet, go on a Z board, and ask the members what their cars ran stock. I was also racing at my local track when those things were hot, and have seen it myself.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 07:09 AM
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I actually had a better time than he did. And my bottle had no pressure in it.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by asu174
I actually had a better time than he did. And my bottle had no pressure in it.
all I can say is expect 100+ traps once you get a full bottle and 1000-1100 bottle pressure
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 07:18 AM
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Give the Z some time. They will run some good times guarenteed. They have only been out for about 3 months now. It takes some time to learn how to drive a car, especially RWD. I wouldnt put it past that guy to be racing with the VDC on. 94 traps seem weak for a 287 hp car.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:46 AM
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they gotta come out with a turbo for this car, as it is the new Z barely outruns my altima and will be outright spanked stoplight to stoplight by my WRX.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Give the Z some time. They will run some good times guarenteed. They have only been out for about 3 months now. It takes some time to learn how to drive a car, especially RWD. I wouldnt put it past that guy to be racing with the VDC on. 94 traps seem weak for a 287 hp car.
a 350z track edition @ e-town ran a 13.9 or 13.8 @ 101 with a 2.1 60' I think, really close to ethan's time.
check out my350z.com

it was a few weeks ago
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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Re: 350Z at track today

Originally posted by 2000 SE
There was a 350Z Auto at the track today. He had some type of exhaust (really loud and whiney) and intake. He was running 14.6's at 94mph. He was cutting consistant 2.1 60fts. The more I look at the door handles the less I like the car. I think the G Coupe looks nicer with the horizontal handle rather than the aluminized verticle handle.
Wow im not impressed at all. Maybee the guy did not know how to drive. He should be running low 14s if not hight 13s with that car.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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Re: Re: 350Z at track today

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Wow im not impressed at all. Maybee the guy did not know how to drive. He should be running low 14s if not hight 13s with that car.
It was an auto so I would say he is not too far off. I think his problem is he had an exhaust kit, and from what I understand they do not react well but actually lose HP with an exhaust.
Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:14 PM
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that's pretty weak, and even if he was simply a bad dirver, the trap speed still sucks.


And as for people discussing the 300ZX, even if that car only ran the same average times as the new 350Z, it was only a boost controller and a couple other cheap mods away from running 12s.. the same cant be said for the 350Z. It's gonna need boost to do anything, because it sounds to me like bolt ons arent getting all that much (which is a testament to Nissan, they're getting pretty much all it has to offer N/A out of it straight from the factory).
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 01:07 AM
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Well considering they dyno 10 less torque and 10 more hp than a 2k2 maxima, the times arent that very bad, definitely not impressive, but its not bad. And Nissan autos are notorious for being inefficient. As for the comments about how the Z loses power with exhaust work, that was one case in Sport Compact Car, we know how great they are i remember them claiming the maxima wasnt able to run faster than the time they ran which was 14.9. Anyway, their initial dyno runs werent exactly right either, so who is to say the dyno after the muffler install was any more correct, we know Z dynos are roughly 230hp 220tq, but SCC got 244hp and 240ish(?)tq, and their dyno after the exhaust brought power down to upper 23Xhp and 230xTQ, for all we know the dyno after the exhaust is the REAL one, and the baseline was incorrect, or both were incorrect. No matter how good a stock exhaust system is, it is STILL mass produced.
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 05:53 AM
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Alright guys, when I get home from work, I'm gonna find the info, and pull your punk cards! The TT-Z's weighed 3600#'s empty, and when new ran 14.9-14.6's@96 mph, I've got some motor trend archives around here somewhere, better yet, go on a Z board, and ask the members what their cars ran stock. I was also racing at my local track when those things were hot, and have seen it myself.
Wrong. 1990 300zx TT ran 13.9-14.0 bone stock per a magazine. Was a long time ago, but I don't recall. All of them run low 14s stock.

I drove one a long time ago, a friends with 90k on it, stock turbos, still ran 14.3!
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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Well considering they dyno 10 less torque and 10 more hp than a 2k2 maxima, the times arent that very bad, definitely not impressive, but its not bad. And Nissan autos are notorious for being inefficient. As for the comments about how the Z loses power with exhaust work, that was one case in Sport Compact Car, we know how great they are i remember them claiming the maxima wasnt able to run faster than the time they ran which was 14.9. Anyway, their initial dyno runs werent exactly right either, so who is to say the dyno after the muffler install was any more correct, we know Z dynos are roughly 230hp 220tq, but SCC got 244hp and 240ish(?)tq, and their dyno after the exhaust brought power down to upper 23Xhp and 230xTQ, for all we know the dyno after the exhaust is the REAL one, and the baseline was incorrect, or both were incorrect. No matter how good a stock exhaust system is, it is STILL mass produced.
most 350z dyno at 230 hp yes...
but not all, heres a recent 243 hp one http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...highlight=dyno

I wouldn't call SCC's dyno off...
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Wrong. 1990 300zx TT ran 13.9-14.0 bone stock per a magazine. Was a long time ago, but I don't recall. All of them run low 14s stock.

I drove one a long time ago, a friends with 90k on it, stock turbos, still ran 14.3!
Hey dumb a$$ I'm looking at the Feb. 1990 Car and Driver and it has a 300zx TT against a Vette.
It says 0-60 in 5.9 and the 1/4 mile in 14.6 @96 MPH for the Z.

I would love to know were you found those specs that you have.
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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i read that the only exhaust system that the 350z is NOT losing power from is the one made by nismo.. all the others have shown loss in hp..
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale


most 350z dyno at 230 hp yes...
but not all, heres a recent 243 hp one http://www.my350z.com/forum/showthre...highlight=dyno

I wouldn't call SCC's dyno off...
Why the variance of hp is so big .. one Z dynos at 230hp and another at 243hp
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by Y2k Max Luv


Hey dumb a$$ I'm looking at the Feb. 1990 Car and Driver and it has a 300zx TT against a Vette.
It says 0-60 in 5.9 and the 1/4 mile in 14.6 @96 MPH for the Z.

I would love to know were you found those specs that you have.
Ah!! Thank you, I was looking for that info, I knew it!! They were,nt that fast back then, but ofcourse, back in 1990 14.6's were blazing fast times for a stock car.
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Originally posted by Y2k Max Luv


Hey dumb a$$ I'm looking at the Feb. 1990 Car and Driver and it has a 300zx TT against a Vette.
It says 0-60 in 5.9 and the 1/4 mile in 14.6 @96 MPH for the Z.

I would love to know were you found those specs that you have.
Okay obviously you hate to be proven wrong...

http://www.z32.org/html/z32perf.shtml

or

1990 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.6
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 13.9@103
Lateral Acceleration .94
Braking from 60 ----
Braking from 80 ----
Top Speed 147
HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source HR 2/90

or

1990 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.4
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 13.9@105
Lateral Acceleration .90
Braking from 60 119
Braking from 80 ----
Top Speed 155
HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source Sports Car Illusrated 3/90


1990 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.5
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 14.1@99
Lateral Acceleration .89
Braking from 60 ----
Braking from 70 175
Top Speed 153
HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source Car and Driver 11/89


or full detail articles scanned in..

http://www.300zx.cl/ga/300zx/images/turbotea.html My favorite. 13.7 at 102.

Full link: http://www.300zx.cl/ga/300zx/images/default2.html

Here you go DUMBASS...


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Ah!! Thank you, I was looking for that info, I knew it!! They were,nt that fast back then, but ofcourse, back in 1990 14.6's were blazing fast times for a stock car.
Sorry but they were that fast. 13.7-14.5 depending on year and driver. Most were 14.1~.

Proof was put up. Don't listen to that guy since he can't post proof only opinions.
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I have never seen a stock 300Z TT trap any higher than 99mph, so the 103 and 105 have to be a typo!
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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Okay obviously you hate to be proven wrong...
Why didnt you show the ones that were running mid 14's like these ones that were taken from the same page you got the other ones from. Take this and shove it right up your a$$.

1990 300ZX Twin Turbo
0-60 5.9
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 14.6@96
Lateral Acceleration .88
Braking from 70 169
Braking from 80 ----
Top Speed 155
HP(hp/rpm) 300/6400
Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3435
Source Car and Driver 3/90

1990 300ZX Twin Turbo
Automatic 0-60 5.9
1/4 Mile (time@speed) 14.5@95
Lateral Acceleration .87
Braking from 70 164
Braking from 80 ----
Top Speed 155
HP(hp/rpm) 280/6400
Torque(torque/rpm) 283/3600
Curb weight 3414
Source Car and Driver 9/90


Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Okay obviously you hate to be proven wrong...
Old Nov 12, 2002 | 10:46 PM
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Selective reading/posting by Russ.
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