Ok guys im so damn confused and i have used the search repeatedly and its not helping. i drive a 2k1 Auto. I hope you guys will read my whole post and answer as many of the questions throughout the post as possible

I'm trying to buy the best value of the two(Frankencar and Place Racing). By best value I'm considering two things and that is Hp gain and Price

I checked Custommaxima and the a Blue Place Racing Intake is 200 bucks. Frankencar Intake with Apexi filter is 190 and then the Midpipe is another 65. That is 255 right there.

1. Which Intake gives me better gains? Is there any diff in Hp and Torque gains? More down low or up top?
2. What the hell is a midpipe?
3. Do i need that Midpipe thing to use the frankencar Intake? Does it make the Intake just sounder louder with the midpipe? or Does the midpipe make the intake suck in air faster giving me more hp?
4. What is the difference between Apexi and K&N filter? Would i get more Hp with the Apexi over the K&N?
5. How often do u change or clean the filter? If i have an Apexi am i supposed to buy a new filter every (couple thousand miles) or do i clean it every (couple thousand miles)?

I live in california and im not sure if thats relevant, but maybe one of those intakes would perform better for where I live. So in the end .. Which intake would u guys recommend? and Why?

 

1. Better gains should be with the Place racing because it is a CAI. But you have to drill a permanent hole in the wheel well area.
2. Midpipe replaces the mid-section of the intake. The stock midpipe has a piece that looks like an accordian. The replacement midpipe is a straight pipe, which maximizes air flow...and growls too. In this picture, the midpipe is the silver piece that has the MAF sensor connected to it.

3. The Frankencar intake COMES with the midpipe. And contact Frankencar directly for a better price.
4. Not sure. I have a K&N and I love it.
5. I haven't cleaned mine since I bought it. You don't want to over oil them and blow the MAF sensor.

The MAIN difference between these intakes is filter location. Frankencar is a warm air intake and Place Racing is a true CAI. Personally, I'm happy with my Frankencar, though......and I paid nowhere near that much money for it.

 

Intakes suck Just drop a K&N in it, and do the ghetto mod, with an ooglie scoop. Save yourself about a c-note, and get the same performance.

 

The $190 includes the midpipe. FrankenCar sells it as part of their intake system. They will also sell it seperately, but there is no price on the website for the Intake piece without the midpipe.

 

INJEN!!!

 

Fosho INJEN !! Frankencar is an HAI while Place Racing is a true CAI. Only problem for Place Racing is for you to drill a hole in the fender well to get cold air. Injen sets a whole different story, their application is also a CAI, the thing is, you really dont have to drill a hole through your precious A33 body. Injen gets its cold air through the front air dam heading towards the front lower lip of your car.

I have a 95 max w/ an Injen intake, so far it gives you instant throttle response and a jump in hp. In Feb of 2003, I'm planning to get a 2k3 max 6 spd. I already bought my Injen intake for the 2k3, price will cost you around 260 - 300 bucks.

Note: Do you guys think this is a good combination ?

Injen CAI < Custommaxima's 5th gen headers < Warp Speed y pipes < RT cat < JIC-magic Bullet 505 sus exuast(japanese company)

(JIC is on the process of making a titanium cat back system for the A33's...can't wait ! )

 

there was recently a thread about injen CAI's with dyno's and those numbers kinda sucked.

CAI will give you more torque low end

Franken Intake will give it to ya high end.

I love my franken intake.

 

Even after that (BS) dyno thread with the Injen, I will still be getting it in the next few weeks. I will also be modifying the splash guard to get additional air into the area where the filter is located.

 

didn't realize it was BS.....how do you know?

 

so the Place racing (i know its cai) will give me more low end torque? and the Frankencar more high end?

Will the frankencar rob some of my low end torque? If that is the case I will probably opt for the Place Racing unless Dmbmax aka frankencar can give me a better price than 190.

You guys will probably say the frankencar because top end is really what you need, but im thinking if i get the Prcai I can get low end torque and then when i get the Budget Y pipe ill have top end too.. So that way i wont need to sacrifice any torque. I wont be racing 24/7 so i think the Ypipe with the Prcai would be plenty of extra power. What do you guys think?

 

I say screw the Apexi filter. While it might look cooler and say Apexi on it, I think a filter is a filter.

The K&N including midpipe and all the clamps and hoses is on sale for $115 right now through FrankenCar (I think). If the sale is over, the price is still only $135.

Otherwise, go with the Place Racing.

 

Are you willing to drill a 3" hole in your car for the Place Racing? Your not going to notice a difference with either of those two.

 

Sounds great...you'll get the CAI and the Cat in the next week or two and hopefully you'll get the rest of those items sometime while gasoline powered cars are still viable forms of transportation.

 

I was gonna say the same thing. Don't get your heart set on those headers anytime soon.

 

Better learn how to use the search function better:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ght=wai+vs+cai
Enough said.

 

the frankencar will give you beter top end then a place racing and you won't have top drill a huge hole in your car.
the midpipe is the metal midsection between the maf and TB and for 180 for a silver with apexi it comes with the midpipe.
personally i saw a 3.5hp difference with an apexi over a k/n.
most people clean the k/n every 15k or so and the apexi is maintenace free for 30k and isn't oiled so it's safer for you MAF.

 

i rather go for the frankencar intake... bought mine for 149.99 with k&n filter, and gave me 10 whp. and of what dmbmaxima has said, that it gives a 3.5 hp over the k&n.. that means midpipe and apex filter will give you an xtra 13.5 whp... not bad of a price/hp.

currently i have frankencar intake with k&n filter, and i am planning to get the apex dry filter....


question- does it make a difference in weather for the apex vs. k&n filter? i hope not!

 

wow ur so cool maxse2k! all u had to do was post the link and not add some smart @ss comment like " Enough said "

and hey moron that link u sent me did clear up some questions, but notice i had other questions in the post. Maybe u didnt read it all.. Nuff said foo.

 

Go for the PR CAI. Who cares about the hole. If you put your stock intake back on your dont see anything at all. I thought it would be a big deal but in reality, it isnt.

Chris

 

But why go through all the trouble if it doesn't have any hp benefits? I haven't seen any valid dyno's showing more than a 13.5hp gain.

 

I have a 2K2 Injen CAI for sale....

 

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=169355


just in case you opt for PR's CAI

 

How would either of these intake solutions make your car sound? It seems like a reasonable amount for performance mod. But, I am trying to keep my car from sounding like these riced out Honda Civic's running around. I would prefer to keep the noise level as close to stock as possible. Especially within the car.

 

Both the Frankencar and PR CAI don't sound ricey at all, IMO

it's usually the exhausts that make those honda's sound so ricey

 

Thanks for reply. I figured it was more the exaust. But when I read some info about the "tone" you would get from the intake, it made me take pause. I put a Greddy exaust system on my Eclipse GS-T and it was totally ricey. But it did not sound as weird as it would on a Max IMO. I want mine to be more of a classy ride than sporty ride. But still making power/performance gains where I can.

 

It's not a rice sound, but it's also not a Mustang or Camero V8 sound either. It is a nice deep growl. They are louder at all rpm's, but it's not that much louder than stock until you hit 3500 rpm's or close to that. If you want close to stock, stillen or jwt might be a better choice since they don't include the midpipe.

 

haha, damn foo, all intakes made for the maximas don't sound ricey. Hondas have them gay a$$ intake sound all around their rpm...even at 1200rpm. As for the maximas, its dope cuhz your just cruisin without some loud intake noises. The only way you'll get the growl is when you reach past 3000rpm.

 

anyone have pictures of 2k-2k1's with injens?

 

Just in case someone runs a search looking for what the sound is like after installing a Frankencar intake, here is a link to some .mpg's and .wav's on their site. Not sure if this has been posted before or not.

Frankercar intake sound: http://frankencar.com/media.shtml

I must admit, they sound pretty good at high RPM's. And, it sounds very close to stock at lower RPM's. Just what I am looking for. Hopefully, this holds true when I install mine and hear it in person.

Cheers!
Mike

 

<----- my homepage has a couple of pics of an Injen on a 2001.

Sorry, I didn't see your post sooner. Thread got resurrected.

 

INJEN is AWSOME! I know my is worth every penny!

I didn't want to drill a hole on my fender, and looks great.

 

I agree! It is going to be very hard to prove which is better because everyone has their own opinion. But my 00' 5spd is running 94mph (stock with K&N)on a back to back run in low 70 degree weather. So cooling the car down for an hour or two would have probably got me somewhere near 95mph with virtually no mods on a 00'.

BTW, whoever said that the PR doesn't sound ricey is far from the truth! I heard one and it had a very loud sucking or hissing sound at idle and upon full throttle it sounded like a freaking jet airplane.

 

does the apexi dry filter look smaller than the k&n filter?? or is it just me?? its not the one where you can just clamp it on, like the k&n. the dry filter, you have to drill holes or something. i dunno. this dude said that he will do it for a 100 bucks... thats including the apexi dry filter and the installation.. is that a good price?? cuz its a lil pricey... im not sure if i wanna switch it to apexi dry filter...

 

I'm guessing when you guys speak of how it sounds at certain RPM's, you are assuming the car is under WOT? Is that a correct assumption? Because, with my Injen, there is no noticeable difference in sound compared to stock unless I'm under WOT.

 

good luck with frankencar. i ordered an intake back in august. they took my money but i haven't seen anything yet. after several attempts to contact, i have finally asked for my money back. still haven't seen that!

 

Hmm, that is strange, I go my intake back in April, placed an order and had intake in a week at my house.

Loving it ever since.