Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
01-16-2003, 01:42 PM
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Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Great, the server barfed when I hit "submit" 
Okay, here's the info:
There was a thread recently about speed limiters on Maximas. I e-mailed Nissan USA asking for info, and finally received a call-back today (only two weeks - wow...). Anyway, after the conversation about "we don't really release that information", here's the gist of what he said:
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
Okay, here's the info:There was a thread recently about speed limiters on Maximas. I e-mailed Nissan USA asking for info, and finally received a call-back today (only two weeks - wow...). Anyway, after the conversation about "we don't really release that information", here's the gist of what he said:
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
01-16-2003, 01:46 PM
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Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by Maximax2
Great, the server barfed when I hit "submit" Okay, here's the info:
There was a thread recently about speed limiters on Maximas. I e-mailed Nissan USA asking for info, and finally received a call-back today (only two weeks - wow...). Anyway, after the conversation about "we don't really release that information", here's the gist of what he said:
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
Great, the server barfed when I hit "submit"
Okay, here's the info:There was a thread recently about speed limiters on Maximas. I e-mailed Nissan USA asking for info, and finally received a call-back today (only two weeks - wow...). Anyway, after the conversation about "we don't really release that information", here's the gist of what he said:
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
01-16-2003, 03:43 PM
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Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips. 
01-16-2003, 04:46 PM
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Re: Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by limsandy
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips.
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips.
01-16-2003, 05:47 PM
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Re: Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by limsandy
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips.
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips.
Sounds like the A-team!
01-16-2003, 06:02 PM
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thank you
proved me right!!
couple of weeks i argued forver about the top out speed for 00 SE.
149 is crazy. well at least many are psoting up the right information. where are you sfgo2max? or some name like that...see, i wasn't lying.
couple of weeks i argued forver about the top out speed for 00 SE.
149 is crazy. well at least many are psoting up the right information. where are you sfgo2max? or some name like that...see, i wasn't lying.
01-16-2003, 06:11 PM
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Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by Maximax2
Great, the server barfed when I hit "submit" Okay, here's the info:
There was a thread recently about speed limiters on Maximas. I e-mailed Nissan USA asking for info, and finally received a call-back today (only two weeks - wow...). Anyway, after the conversation about "we don't really release that information", here's the gist of what he said:
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
Great, the server barfed when I hit "submit"
Okay, here's the info:There was a thread recently about speed limiters on Maximas. I e-mailed Nissan USA asking for info, and finally received a call-back today (only two weeks - wow...). Anyway, after the conversation about "we don't really release that information", here's the gist of what he said:
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
01-16-2003, 06:50 PM
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I tried to push my 2k GXE past 130 but that stupid speed limiter kick in and you can actually feel it kick against the pedal, I'm not doubting but I don't see how you guys went above 130 in a 2k GXE.
Or you guys stick or something? I'm auto?
Still can't see going past 130, unless someone removed your speed limiter.
Or you guys stick or something? I'm auto?
Still can't see going past 130, unless someone removed your speed limiter.
01-17-2003, 12:50 AM
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When i read posts about your guys going 130 and getting scared i was like watch a bunch of pussies. BTW i just got a maxima a week ago, i have been 110 in a contour and was not scared at all. But i took the maxima to the highway here in alaska, where the roads are not great by a long shot and it's winter. I hit 120 and it scared the **** out of me. BTW i have a 00 Maxima GXE. I'm going to try to limit it this weekend.
01-17-2003, 05:44 AM
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Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
01-17-2003, 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
1. Do it late at night.
2. On a wide freeway with a fixed barrier in the middle. (makes it a LITTLE easier)
3. If your busted over 140, you may as well keep going, you might get away. Get off at the first exit where they can't see your tailights. (It'll take a while to catch up)
4. Don't get caught.
5. Come on, how often do we have blow outs on good tires. Tires can blow out at 20 mph.
6. Drive the 'strip' and make sure it's clear.
7. Make sure it's a clear night, no chance of precip. and Check the road during #6.
If you want to be really safe, you have a friend sitting on a ramp half way through the run so he can get started when you're coming and warn you of any popos. I know you really want to film this, cause I do, but if you get caught, do you really wanna have that evidence?
Not that I've done all this or anything.
Oh yeah, I forgot. Street racing is bad. Driving two or three times the speed limit is bad.
01-17-2003, 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
I wish there was a place like the Utah Salt Flats where you could go to top out your car and not have to worry about cops or other people. Anyone know of such a place in NY? I wouldn't mind going 149 if I didn't have to worry about getting pulled over and shot!
01-17-2003, 07:02 AM
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Re: Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by limsandy
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips.
The fastest I have gone in my 2k2 SE is only 130 mph. It's still 19 mph short of the speed limiter. I dont think anyone could actually reach that insane speed, at least not in highways. Maybe you could in airplane landing/take-off strips.
Since the car is "drag limited" to 145, the 149mph Speed Limiter never has to do it's job.
the engine and aerodynamics keep it to 145. Hence the term "Drag Limited". in the SE, the only way to make the speed limiter (149mph) kick in, is to do some modifications to the engine, make the car more powerful, and then get it up to 149. If what the guy that started this thread says is true, then this is the only way for an SE to hit the speed limiter.
The 130mph GLE could go faster without the speed limiter, but because of it's tires, the speed limiter is set lower than an SE.
That is what he's saying...
-vq
01-17-2003, 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
blah blah blah ...
01-17-2003, 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by spta97
I wouldn't mind going 149 if I didn't have to worry about getting pulled over and shot!
I wouldn't mind going 149 if I didn't have to worry about getting pulled over and shot!
the speed limiter is 149, but the car can't make it there....
The engine is only strong enough to push it to 145!
That's why the guy that posted this thread said the SE's are Drag Limited.
Drag Limited means that the aerodynamics and engine limit the cars speed.
Electronically Limited (Governed cars) are limited to their top speed by the governor on the car.
The SE's have an electronic governor on them (according to Maxima2) but they can't even get to it, because it's higher than the speed it can attain, so the car ends up being drag limited, with a worthless governor on it that doesn't allow it to go past 149...if you've modded your car, or are on big downhill straight-away with no traffic...(where are there any of those? I want to go!)\
-just trying to clear this up...
-vq
The GLE's COULD go faster than 130, but they are electroincally limited to 130.
The SE's are electronically limited to a speed they cannot even get to...(without a few cheap mods)
01-17-2003, 07:21 AM
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2001 Maxus. We drove from North Carolina to DC. 4 of Us. 3 4th Gens, and my 5th gen. All 4 of us were 120-130-140 all the way through. Got to DC in 2 hours. Usually it takes 3 1/2 - 4 hours 
I've hit Rev limited on my 2000 in 4th Gear @ 136Mph. I have been as high as 142 in 5th But not beyond that. Married now, Wife wants me around to see the kids
I've hit Rev limited on my 2000 in 4th Gear @ 136Mph. I have been as high as 142 in 5th But not beyond that. Married now, Wife wants me around to see the kids
01-17-2003, 07:23 AM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
Unless you have modded your Maxima, you can't do 149!!!
the speed limiter is 149, but the car can't make it there....
The engine is only strong enough to push it to 145!
That's why the guy that posted this thread said the SE's are Drag Limited.
Drag Limited means that the aerodynamics and engine limit the cars speed.
Electronically Limited (Governed cars) are limited to their top speed by the governor on the car.
The SE's have an electronic governor on them (according to Maxima2) but they can't even get to it, because it's higher than the speed it can attain, so the car ends up being drag limited, with a worthless governor on it that doesn't allow it to go past 149...if you've modded your car, or are on big downhill straight-away with no traffic...(where are there any of those? I want to go!)\
-just trying to clear this up...
-vq
The GLE's COULD go faster than 130, but they are electroincally limited to 130.
The SE's are electronically limited to a speed they cannot even get to...(without a few cheap mods)
Unless you have modded your Maxima, you can't do 149!!!
the speed limiter is 149, but the car can't make it there....
The engine is only strong enough to push it to 145!
That's why the guy that posted this thread said the SE's are Drag Limited.
Drag Limited means that the aerodynamics and engine limit the cars speed.
Electronically Limited (Governed cars) are limited to their top speed by the governor on the car.
The SE's have an electronic governor on them (according to Maxima2) but they can't even get to it, because it's higher than the speed it can attain, so the car ends up being drag limited, with a worthless governor on it that doesn't allow it to go past 149...if you've modded your car, or are on big downhill straight-away with no traffic...(where are there any of those? I want to go!)\
-just trying to clear this up...
-vq
The GLE's COULD go faster than 130, but they are electroincally limited to 130.
The SE's are electronically limited to a speed they cannot even get to...(without a few cheap mods)
...one day.
01-17-2003, 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by spta97
Anyone know of such a place in NY? I wouldn't mind going 149 if I didn't have to worry about getting pulled over and shot!
Anyone know of such a place in NY? I wouldn't mind going 149 if I didn't have to worry about getting pulled over and shot!
01-17-2003, 08:35 AM
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Here is an article that Dave Barry wrote back in 1996 regarding Montana.
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark...69/Dlimit.html
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark...69/Dlimit.html
01-17-2003, 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by andrew3616
When i read posts about your guys going 130 and getting scared i was like watch a bunch of pussies. BTW i just got a maxima a week ago, i have been 110 in a contour and was not scared at all. But i took the maxima to the highway here in alaska, where the roads are not great by a long shot and it's winter. I hit 120 and it scared the **** out of me. BTW i have a 00 Maxima GXE. I'm going to try to limit it this weekend.
When i read posts about your guys going 130 and getting scared i was like watch a bunch of pussies. BTW i just got a maxima a week ago, i have been 110 in a contour and was not scared at all. But i took the maxima to the highway here in alaska, where the roads are not great by a long shot and it's winter. I hit 120 and it scared the **** out of me. BTW i have a 00 Maxima GXE. I'm going to try to limit it this weekend.
01-17-2003, 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
It did happen to me one time… I was going around 110 mph and then I had to change a lane and this dude on the mini van changed the lane right with me. So I had to brake really hard… Was very scary. Cause If you think about it.. The dude was going around 60mph so I take of 60 from 110 and you get 50mph… And that is the same as stopping from 50 to 0… shifted my pants.
01-17-2003, 12:17 PM
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Re: soo then ....
Originally posted by jerdubois
if i install w rated tires can i go 155 MPH
if i install w rated tires can i go 155 MPH
01-17-2003, 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by F23A4
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
Here are some fears to consider:
1) Another driver cutting in front of you
2) An animal running into the road in front of you
3) The Police arresting you and impounding your car
4) Insurance surcharges
5) A blowout
6) Hitting an unseen object in the road (i.e.: debris)
7) ANY precipitation on the road
area or NYC I'm told)!
01-18-2003, 01:08 AM
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Re: Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by Igor911
Its BS i have a 2k GXE and on stock RSA's i took it to 137!
Its BS i have a 2k GXE and on stock RSA's i took it to 137!
01-18-2003, 02:06 AM
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Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by Maximax2
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
There IS a speed limiter on the 2k2 / 2k3 Max's, baked into the ECU
The speed limiter is set solely based on the speed rating of the tires (SE - V rating, 149 mph; GXE / GLE - H rating, 130 mph). So an SE is drag limited (pulls until it runs out of HP), and the GXE's and GLE's are electronically limited to 130.
Who knows if this guys was actually right, but his info. matches the best explanation given in the previous thread.
01-18-2003, 10:02 AM
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Re: Re: Maxima speed limiters - the "official" word (this time with actual text...)
Originally posted by Y2KMaxGXE-R
Does your post relate only to 2k2/2k3 or all 5th gens? My 2000 GXE came with 15" steelies and sh*ty Dunlop tires, don't know if that even qualifies for an H rating. I just run it up to 130 and kept pulling, no speed limiter.
Does your post relate only to 2k2/2k3 or all 5th gens? My 2000 GXE came with 15" steelies and sh*ty Dunlop tires, don't know if that even qualifies for an H rating. I just run it up to 130 and kept pulling, no speed limiter.
01-19-2003, 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by irvine78
why not? they handle better
just get a RSM and get over this speed limiter crap!
why not? they handle better
just get a RSM and get over this speed limiter crap!
