1000 mile old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
#1
1000 mile old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
#2
Re: 1000 miles old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
#4
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
imagine the guys in the Potenza's!!!
imagine the guys in the Potenza's!!!
#6
Re: 1000 mile old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
#8
Re: 1000 mile old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
Well I'm seriously disappointed in the performance of the Max and Sumi's. I live in a high rise apartment complex and to go into my parking lot you have to go through this semi steep decline. Well me trying to be dedicated and go to work attempted to venture out earlier today. I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. There were Civic's, Oldsmobiles, Camry's zipping right by me! I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I've been living in Jersey for 17 years so I do have an idea of how to drive in the snow. It's definately not a good thing to do in a Max.
Evo...AWD, I can't wait.
Overall, I think the Max handles well in the snow.
#9
Maximam - HTR+, Tirerack did a test with this tire alongside the Pilot Sport A/S and the Sumi's did great in their tests.
Ironlord - I don't know what it is, trust me I tried to take it easy but the car just got stuck.
Everyone else - I understand today was the type of day that one should stay home and not even brave the weather. The one thing that kills me is that the Civic, Camry, and Oldsmobile all managed to do something that my Max with new Sumi' failed to do
Ironlord - I don't know what it is, trust me I tried to take it easy but the car just got stuck.
Everyone else - I understand today was the type of day that one should stay home and not even brave the weather. The one thing that kills me is that the Civic, Camry, and Oldsmobile all managed to do something that my Max with new Sumi' failed to do
#10
The main difference with the Max and the Civics, Camrys, etc is power. In my experience, an all season tire is of very limited use in real snow. A 3" storm is no big problem, but the storm we just got this weekend really did a number on the roads. I use 4 Bridgestone Blizzaks on my 03 SE auto and it is a blast to drive. I can go just about anywhere. Of couse, the main limiting factor is depth on the extreme side roads, but let's get a little realistic. All in all, I think the Max is very capable with the right tire.
#11
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
They will do ok in like less than 2" of snow, but anything more... forget it. Plus, I don't think any Z-rated 18" tire with a 245 width is going to do too well in snow...
They will do ok in like less than 2" of snow, but anything more... forget it. Plus, I don't think any Z-rated 18" tire with a 245 width is going to do too well in snow...
NuJerseyDrive: Ok I thought they were HTRs not HTR+ my mistake.
#12
I got old school 15in rims on my ride...with bridestone blizzaks...
i an not havin a problem at all...
I think the ppl with the 17in rims are havin a hard time with the street tires...
My car looks liek **** with the rims...but i can go anywhere with those tires
i an not havin a problem at all...
I think the ppl with the 17in rims are havin a hard time with the street tires...
My car looks liek **** with the rims...but i can go anywhere with those tires
#13
Let me at them Blizzak's
Originally posted by RichK
The main difference with the Max and the Civics, Camrys, etc is power. In my experience, an all season tire is of very limited use in real snow. A 3" storm is no big problem, but the storm we just got this weekend really did a number on the roads. I use 4 Bridgestone Blizzaks on my 03 SE auto and it is a blast to drive. I can go just about anywhere. Of couse, the main limiting factor is depth on the extreme side roads, but let's get a little realistic. All in all, I think the Max is very capable with the right tire.
The main difference with the Max and the Civics, Camrys, etc is power. In my experience, an all season tire is of very limited use in real snow. A 3" storm is no big problem, but the storm we just got this weekend really did a number on the roads. I use 4 Bridgestone Blizzaks on my 03 SE auto and it is a blast to drive. I can go just about anywhere. Of couse, the main limiting factor is depth on the extreme side roads, but let's get a little realistic. All in all, I think the Max is very capable with the right tire.
#15
Re: Re: 1000 miles old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Originally posted by slickrick
...i wonder how people with pilot sports are doing in the snow?
...i wonder how people with pilot sports are doing in the snow?
#16
I really think it's the car.
and this was DEFINITELY the winter to get dedicated snows
#18
Re: 1000 mile old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
I could not for my life get out of my apartment complex area and onto the street. I'm quite frustrated to see that the Max is this incompetent in the snow. Brand new Sumitomo HTR+ made no difference, I was slipping and sliding helplessly. I really think it's the car.
Of course I think things wouldn't be as bad had the limited slip option been available when I purchased my car. That is definitely a MUST HAVE $400 option!!!
By the way, my last car (Eciplse Turbo FWD) sucked ars in the snow with its stock tires, but a set of Blizzaks all around solved that problem.
#19
Re: Re: 1000 mile old Sumitomo's in the NE snow storm..
Originally posted by Quidproquo Of course I think things wouldn't be as bad had the limited slip option been available when I purchased my car. That is definitely a MUST HAVE $400 option!!!
i live just outside of boston ... we got about 24" here.
i drive 215/50/17 htr+ and they are a giant improvement over the potenzas. driving this car in snow, however, is NOT easy. it does take a very sensitive touch. she wont lose the back end, thanks to the front wheel drive ... however you will lose directional steering if the wheels start to slip a bit (hey its normal, try turning direction on ice when you are walking or running).
i got stuck in 3" of snow w/ the blowtenzas in my driveway. the sumis get me through much more.
in addition - YOU MUST keep your momentum in higher snow ... you dont and you die.
good luck!
#20
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
Maximam - HTR+, Tirerack did a test with this tire alongside the Pilot Sport A/S and the Sumi's did great in their tests.
Ironlord - I don't know what it is, trust me I tried to take it easy but the car just got stuck.
Everyone else - I understand today was the type of day that one should stay home and not even brave the weather. The one thing that kills me is that the Civic, Camry, and Oldsmobile all managed to do something that my Max with new Sumi' failed to do
Maximam - HTR+, Tirerack did a test with this tire alongside the Pilot Sport A/S and the Sumi's did great in their tests.
Ironlord - I don't know what it is, trust me I tried to take it easy but the car just got stuck.
Everyone else - I understand today was the type of day that one should stay home and not even brave the weather. The one thing that kills me is that the Civic, Camry, and Oldsmobile all managed to do something that my Max with new Sumi' failed to do
The wider the tire, the poorer it will do in the snow. A Civic on average all-seasons will run away from a Maxima unless the Max is on dedicated snows. I run Pirelli Winter 210's, and I was on the road for a while on Monday and out all day yesterday with no problems at all. I've driven on hard-pack and slush, and everything in between. The only thing that can slow the car down is very deep snow (over 8"). It'll go, but you've got to use some finesse with the throttle and keep it at least a gear higher than normal.
#21
Originally posted by NuJerseyDrive
imagine the guys in the Potenza's!!!
imagine the guys in the Potenza's!!!
You didn't think I was talking about Re92, right ? RE950 are very nice in snow and rain
#22
I'm running 235/45R17 HTR+s and they've been great in 1-3" snow. They do slip a bit on take off, but they do pull the car thru snow. However I live in Kansas City and we rarely see more than 2-4" of snow at a time and usually it's plowed before I go to work so I have little problem going anywhere. If I lived somewhere that received regular large dumpings of snow I wouldn't waste my time with all-season performance tires. I'd run dedicated snow tires. Period.
You need to remember a few things. Wide tires are horrible in the snow because the tire ends up riding on top of the snow and doesn't bite threw it. The Civics and other cars you mentioned do fine because they have narrow tires. Watch Rally racing in the snow and look at the tires on those 400hp WRXs and EVOs. They're all running super narrow 185 width snow tires.
Dave
You need to remember a few things. Wide tires are horrible in the snow because the tire ends up riding on top of the snow and doesn't bite threw it. The Civics and other cars you mentioned do fine because they have narrow tires. Watch Rally racing in the snow and look at the tires on those 400hp WRXs and EVOs. They're all running super narrow 185 width snow tires.
Dave
#23
Originally posted by Maksim2000
You didn't think I was talking about Re92, right ? RE950 are very nice in snow and rain
You didn't think I was talking about Re92, right ? RE950 are very nice in snow and rain
#24
You learn something new every day. I always thought "Wider is better", blame Pontiac for that
The thing is when I got stuck with my tires spinning, the tire was in direct contact with the ground. But anyway, I'm not even going to try to figure it out anymore. I'm just gonna pick up some snow tires for next years winter. Lesson learned....
The thing is when I got stuck with my tires spinning, the tire was in direct contact with the ground. But anyway, I'm not even going to try to figure it out anymore. I'm just gonna pick up some snow tires for next years winter. Lesson learned....
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