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Old 04-01-2003, 04:12 AM
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******* in a mid 80's corvette...

So I'm on my way home from work this morning, and this guy in a mid 80's corvette...I'm guessing '85-'86...driving like an absolute *******. Swerving lane to lane, cutting people off...gunning it...slamming on brakes. Traffic was moderate. I eventually...through no effort on my part...get up next to him and he keeps up his antics...seemingly baiting me for a race. I figured I'd have a go at it if we could pair up at a stoplight with a clear shot. Well, he turned off before we had the opportunity.

How ya think I would have faired? I am in a bone stock 6sp. '03...unsure on his tranny. If my memory serves me correctly, the 'vettes of this vintage put out 245-ish hp. I'm thinking I would have stayed with him...or maybe a slight edge if he had an auto trans. assuming he had no mods either.

I'm guessing staying with him would have been enough to **** him off plenty...which is what I really wanted to do.

So, how do you think I would have faired? Anyone ever have at it with the mid 80's vettes?

Thank you for your time.
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Old 04-01-2003, 05:09 AM
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you should smoke him the 80s bos style corvettes are very slow they arfe super heavy and dont make good power. those corvettes had the LT-1 in them and they did realy get fast until the LS-1 got put in. next time try it and see what happens.
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Re: ******* in a mid 80's corvette...

Originally posted by geneevans
So I'm on my way home from work this morning, and this guy in a mid 80's corvette...I'm guessing '85-'86...driving like an absolute *******. Swerving lane to lane, cutting people off...gunning it...slamming on brakes. Traffic was moderate. I eventually...through no effort on my part...get up next to him and he keeps up his antics...seemingly baiting me for a race.
no idea how you would have done, but why was he "driving like an a-hole" up until the point where you got next to him, then without changing his driving style he was "baiting you for a race"? Looks like you saw what you wanted to see
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Old 04-01-2003, 06:01 AM
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Those mid 80's Corvettes had like 245hp until '92. 1992 is when they got the LT1 engine (300hp). The LS-1 engine didn't appear in the Corvette until 1997 when it was redesigned (345hp initially). Camaros and Firebirds got the LS-1 then too.

Now if you came up against an '84 Vette you should have no problem. It had this awful cross-fire injection engine with a lousy 205hp. If it had the high mount stop lamp on the top of the glass it was at least an '86.

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Old 04-01-2003, 10:16 AM
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Just make sure you listen to his car before you assume anything. One thing about GM small blocks, lots of aftermarket support.
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Originally posted by Maxima Dan
Just make sure you listen to his car before you assume anything. One thing about GM small blocks, lots of aftermarket support.
I've raced an 85 auto Vette at the 1/8 track. It was my first time at the track. He ran a 9.2XX which is mid 14's in the 1/4 mile. I still don't know what he had done, but it beat me (I ran a 9.7XX). Vettes have a lot of torque and this quy had good traction.
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Old 04-01-2003, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by maxGTRvq35de
you should smoke him the 80s bos style corvettes are very slow they arfe super heavy and dont make good power. those corvettes had the LT-1 in them and they did realy get fast until the LS-1 got put in. next time try it and see what happens.
It depends on the year. The early 80's vettes 80-83 where pretty slow. I think in 84 they went with a 210hp engine or so. That one might be a good race, but in 85 they went to a 230hp engine.

My father has a 1986 Corvette, it is rated at only 230hp, but 330ft/lbs or torque, and they were said to dyno at that at the wheels. I raced him in my 2000 GXE 5spd and he left me standing still from a stop by about 8 or so car lengths from a stop, he thought I was not racing it was so bad. From 60-90 he had at least 5 cars on me and was still pulling away. Granted, a 2k2+ has more power, but not enough to make up that difference. It has run a 13.8 in the quarter, no mods at all, 5 spd 100k miles.

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Old 04-01-2003, 11:36 AM
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Speaking as a previous owner of a 1996 LT-1 automatic Corvette and a current 2003 Maxima SE 6 speed, I can honestly say that if the Corvette had the LT-1 engine (92 and up, 300 hp), you would have gotten trounced, regardless of whether the Vette was auto or manual. As stated above the earlier Vettes had less horsepower so I cannot say for sure.
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The early 80's vettes 80-83 where pretty slow
Fact: there was no such thing as a 1983 Corvette. 82 and before is the Mako Shark type one and 84-96 were essentially the same (considered C4s). I had no problem keeping up with my uncle's '80 Vette in my '96 T-bird V8 (0-60 in about 7.4 secs). His is also pretty tired (over 100k miles).

The 84 w/ the Crossfire injection had only 205hp and was a crap engine. Then they went to tuned-port injection in 85.

The hp wasn't too impressive, but it was the torque from that 350 that made it jump off the line.

My buddy has the dreaded '84 Corvette and while it's no where near the the fastest car I've been in, it still fun to drive because it's so low.
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My father has a 1986 Corvette, it is rated at only 230hp, but 330ft/lbs or torque, and they were said to dyno at that at the wheels. It has run a 13.8 in the quarter, no mods at all, 5 spd 100k miles.

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NO way an 86 vette is running 13.8s in the quarter BONE stock. My buddy has an 85 with headers, computer and exhaust and its at best a high 14 sec car. Brand New they were in the 14s or maybe even low 15s.
 
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Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE




NO way an 86 vette is running 13.8s in the quarter BONE stock. My buddy has an 85 with headers, computer and exhaust and its at best a high 14 sec car. Brand New they were in the 14s or maybe even low 15s.
Maybe you should check your facts before pulling out your little BS flag. This car ran 13.8-14.2 all day (granted, the 13.8 was 13.88, but you always round down in drag racing). This was in October and it was in the low 40's, and he powershifted every gear. Here is some info from Carstats.com:

Car-Stats.com Report for 1985 Chevrolet Corvette
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0-60: 5.7 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed:

Given the cold weather and him pounding on the car, there is no reason this is not attainable. How many of us have got better times with our cars at the track than a magazine??? Apparently your buddy needs to polish his driving skills.

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Old 04-01-2003, 02:46 PM
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Maybe you should check your facts before pulling out your little BS flag. This car ran 13.8-14.2 all day (granted, the 13.8 was 13.88, but you always round down in drag racing). This was in October and it was in the low 40's, and he powershifted every gear. Here is some info from Carstats.com:

Car-Stats.com Report for 1985 Chevrolet Corvette
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0-60: 5.7 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed:

Given the cold weather and him pounding on the car, there is no reason this is not attainable. How many of us have got better times with our cars at the track than a magazine??? Apparently your buddy needs to polish his driving skills.

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Well, here it is again I just checked car-stats.com. For an 88 corvette. 0-60 6 seconds. 1/4 mile...14.6. So, like i said, NO way an 85 OR 86 vette (read, less POWER than an 88) is NOT running high 13s. Im not going to fight you on it, i have driven my freinds 85, and my 02 max will WAX him in a race. Whatever car you says runs 13.8s has mods you dont know about or is a factory freak. And, its NOT a factory freak, as i think vettes didnt get into the 13s till the LT-1 came out.
 
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Originally posted by 92 SE-R 02 SE


Well, here it is again I just checked car-stats.com. For an 88 corvette. 0-60 6 seconds. 1/4 mile...14.6. So, like i said, NO way an 85 OR 86 vette (read, less POWER than an 88) is NOT running high 13s. Im not going to fight you on it, i have driven my freinds 85, and my 02 max will WAX him in a race. Whatever car you says runs 13.8s has mods you dont know about or is a factory freak. And, its NOT a factory freak, as i think vettes didnt get into the 13s till the LT-1 came out.
Ok, whatever, I am not going to convice you, and you are not going to convice me. Did you look on the same site for an 85 vette, what did it say?? It is all about the driver. Like I said, your friend can't drive. And if you have ever raced, you should know how weather can effect a car's performance. That 88 may have been tested on a hot humid day, or at a high altitude track. Too many variables to blindly scream BS. I am done.

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I would never personally race a guy that drives like that.

You don't know what he could end up doing. He seemed like an unpredictable maniac. He might "accidently" merge into your lane either because he's a bad driver or a bad loser or worse, just a plain freak.
I would let someone like that gun it and hope a cop sees him and if he were to get pulled over, I'd pull over too telling the cop he was a freaking maniac.

I don't mind agressive drivers, I don't like maniacs driving like a-holes scaring little old ladies who might swerve into my car thinking the a-hole driver was going to crash into her (a lot of people overreact on the road and when they see a car getting within a foot or two from their car, end up swerving or slamming on the brakes etc. even if the car wasn't going to touch them).

But that's just me...
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Ok, whatever, I am not going to convice you, and you are not going to convice me. Did you look on the same site for an 85 vette, what did it say?? It is all about the driver. Like I said, your friend can't drive. And if you have ever raced, you should know how weather can effect a car's performance. That 88 may have been tested on a hot humid day, or at a high altitude track. Too many variables to blindly scream BS. I am done.

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I saw the 85 vette times. Its You wont agree with me, and thats cool. Im not here to start trouble It has NOTHING to do with my buddies driving, I DROVE HIS CAR. Like i said, he will be by my 02 max. your pal must have the ONLY 86 vette that runs 13s. No others are in existance!
 
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It could happen

Before calling this guy a lier, keep in mind one little nuance of Vettes: There is frequently great deviation in the power of their engines. One stock 86 might may have low 200 HP and another bone stock 86 might have high 200 HP. This was really evident in the late 60's models.
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Also the guys Vette could have been on slicks at the track. That would drop almost half a second alone. Those older cars had low hp but crazy torque. The only way to take advantage of that torque in a race is to throw on some slicks and launch hard.

I would hardly call that BS.
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Originally posted by FASST LN
Also the guys Vette could have been on slicks at the track. That would drop almost half a second alone. Those older cars had low hp but crazy torque. The only way to take advantage of that torque in a race is to throw on some slicks and launch hard.

I would hardly call that BS.
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Originally posted by FASST LN
Also the guys Vette could have been on slicks at the track. That would drop almost half a second alone. Those older cars had low hp but crazy torque. The only way to take advantage of that torque in a race is to throw on some slicks and launch hard.

I would hardly call that BS.
It was my fathers car, and he has been drag racing cars for longer than most of us have been alive. He has nitto drag radials on the car, so I guess technically, it is not bone stock. I belive the 60ft times were in the 1.9-2.0 range.

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