Aight as the title states,....I got my VB modded (stage 3 full race) and the cooler added. What happens is...Obviously Wehn they opened up the lower half of my tranny to get my VB out the fluid drained out. They did the mod,replaced the VB,and re-filled it with fluid. What kind of fluid,...I dunno . Now what will occasionally happen is this. If I come to a stop really fast or sometimes when Im sitting at a light which is really long, When I go to take off it'll rev. then slam into gear. Do u think I need to add some kind of high-performance auto-trans. fluid? Or could it be a screw up in the VB mod(<<Doubt its this). IF I do hafta change the fluid again,...WHAT SHOULD I USE?!!? I drive VERY HARD,and more often than not have my foot on the floor.

 

B&M Synthetic Trick Shift. It's prob gonna work a little better than Mobil 1 ATF in this case. Peace...

 

Not meaning to still your thread, but since the search function isn't working. I was wondering where and who makes VB upgrades for the 02 A/T's? Thanks.

 

you checked the fluid level and condition? I would first call your installer and ask them what kinda ATF they used. with stage 3 full race, the pressure is higher and the tranny fluid gets really hot. I have a tranny temp gauge and it goes straight up to 180F from 150F when I am boosting. I have seen 210F when I was boosting on an uphill road.

I would keep what you have in the tranny right now and take easy on the pedal....use this ATF to flush thru the vb and then switch with better stuff, usually they have better temperature tolerance.

FYI...the tranny cooler gets more effective during high speed cruising than stop and go. If you drive a lot of local street or do a lot of stop light racing.....you might want to have a tranny cooler with fans.


about your observation.....you said it will rev a little between gear. Do you feel your car becomes powerless during shift?

 

Did they replace the solenioids when they did the VB? It's recommended to be replaced if you have say more then 65K..

 

Nope they didnt. We couldnt get 5th gen solenoids. They guy had 2 sets of gen.4's. So my stockers remained, I also have 76K on the clock (all h/way,used car.) My driving is mostly city. But I mainly go to & from work which is a 1.4mile drive each way.


This not when Im driving, Only from a dead stop OCCASIONALLY. But either way its ****ing me the F*** OFF. I just spent $488 on the cooler and VB and its doing this!?!

 

Any other ideas?!!? Cmon folks I need help with this. I gotta drive to Richmond Virginia in less than 3 weeks and I need to be sure my MAX is 110% mechanically sound.

 

It could be the solenoids.. At 76K I'd definitely recommend replacing them when you do the VB mod..

 

how about fluid level???did u check that???

 

Anything more than 100% is impossible, if it could give you 110%, it would really be 100% of its potential.

Hehe, I would find out what ATF was used and flush that first if you have the time/money. Other than that, not a clue

 

synthetic fluid is nice but it is not gonna affect the way transmission "drives" (main adavantage is that it doesn't break down as much at higher temeperatures, hence less "sludge" etc). So Yeah.. check the fluid level. Remeber kids: "Hot, idling, in park"

 

If it's having issues while idling and sitting for a while then I would say the ATF temperature is getting too hot. You need to get a bigger tranny cooler, and one with a fan maybe like someone else said. I would also find out what ATF they put it, if its not synthetic then flush it and get synthetic in there.

I'm running a stage 2 VB mod, with a B&M tranny cooler, and Mobil 1 Synthetic ATF. I have had no problems since instal a couple weeks ago.

Hope you get it working right. Stage 3 is kind of extreme...do you do a lot of racing?

 

Um you got a stageIII race VB. Thats means you get VERY HARD 1-2 shift which also results in a very hard down shift or like you said when you come to a stop quick it damn near CLANKS/SLAMS back into the 1st gear.

This is obviously the drawback to the VB. There is always a drawback to things like this, if there wasnt, obviously certain car manufacturers would do it, but since it is in no way a smooth shift back down into first, they will never do this.

But im sure Jeff explained this to you.

Dixit

 

I have Jeff's Stage II package, and bumper-bumper traffic gets really annoying sometimes when it downshifts back to 1st gear. I tried this last week while stuck on the Southern State; if you are going really slow, keep it in first so it doesn't have that annoying downshift.


How is the stage three? Do you chirp all ur 1-2 shifts?

 

Nope, I got really sweet tires. Im running Yokohama's 16" R-rated.

Well It doesnt do it when Im driving. Only when I'm stopped,or if I stop really fast,it kinda pops itself into neutral. Then when I go to drive again,it REV'S then slams into first.

I LIVE FOR RACING!! Which is why I got the stage3 mod done. Only problem is we couldnt get the gen.5 solenoids which really ****ed me off.So I think my just order up some OEM solenoids.

 

That rice Accord pic is funny......

 

after my VB mod, I had to pay real close attention to the fluid level before I got it right...some slippage when too full and too little...it was a strange balance for a out 3 weeks.

 

So where exactly on the dipstick should it be? And wht fluid Ru using??

 

Would I have this problem if I just got a stage 1. Cause I am thinking of getting the mod sometime down the road.

 

Stage 1 will improve the life of your tranny, but I think the shifts will feel the same. I have Stage 2 and love it.

 

I got the stage 1 VB mod with the B&M tranny cooler installed approx. 20K miles ago and here are some observations. First I drive the car to and from work around 100 miles a day, both highway with a little city driving close to work. The shift from 1st to second was on the hard side. What I mean is that there is a noticable thud from 1st to second. In traffic it is really annoying. The thud will drive you crazy especially when driving in bumper to bumper traffic. The shifts from 2nd to third and all the way thru are the same before VB was done. So you feel the thud only from 1st to second, smooth the rest of the way. Now what this mod has done is made this car a blast to drive. If you get on it the shift from 1st to second is great. The car jumps into gear and your car pulls harder off the line due to the quick shift between 1st and second. I want to put a tranny temp gauge in to see how the cooler handles. I'm waiting for a dual A-pillar to be fabricated by anyone for 2k2 52mm size. I'm very happy with this mod and it takes time to get used to the thud but the launches this mod gives you are awesome. I also had the tranny fluid replaced by dealer that is after 32K. Maintance is key.

 

How would this mod help your 1/4 mile time? How much time would it save or how many more mph would it boost your trap speeds?

 

Isn't that the question...

 

That is the question...Can anyone answer it?

 

I was "TOLD" about a full second was taken off my time. Keep in mind how long first gear hold when u floor it w/a stock VB. With my stage3 as soon as I hit 6200 BAM it shifts hard,and keeps me in the powerband. I suggest if ur gonna do the VB mod go all the way and get a stage3. Yeah the 1/2 shift is a bit harsh but its a great feeling pulling on a ****-vic with $10K under the hood when I have a lil' less than $2K in my car

 

You can show us the mid 14s timeslip then ?

 

I have heard from various people it does NOT improve quarter mile times. Maybe by a tenth of a second if that.

 

That is also what I heard, at least for NA cars. People in 13s seem to notice more of a difference(still nothing as drastic as full second). But yet everybody's coming back and claiming huge gains from the VB mod. All I want is just some timeslips, before and after, is that too much to ask ?