Just a few questions about my exhaust system. I'm planning on getting the Powertech muff with the 3 1/2" dual tips. It has a 2 1/2" inlet. Isn't this what the stock exhaust is? When I get the muffler shop to install this I'm also planning on getting a new mendral bent b-pipe. Should I just buy the Warpspeed b-pipe w/ resonator for $170 or let the muffler shop make one for me? How much did some of you guys pay for your custom b-pipes? Thanks

 

I wanna get a custom B-pipe without the resonator so it's llloouudd.

 

don't buy anything from warspspeed. unless you want fitment issues, and don't care if their customer service is absolutely terrible. I will never buy anything from them again. Their pipes suck.

 

I'll 2nd that customer service issue. They sent me the wrong pipe. I had to pay the install shop to put my stock pipe back on and pay them again when the correct pipe came. I got a, "well you could've done it yourself so why should I reimburse you"?

 

Does anyone know about how much a muffler shop will charge be for a custom one?

 

I got custom b-pipe w/o resonator (louddddd) for $100 only

 

ill third that up there...WSP SUCKS AZZ!

The pipes move around..I keep getting rattles after going to muffler shops..My gasket broke twice....Get it custom, or dont bother

The only thing keeping the pipes on, is the extra prob I put in there for my gauges..

 

you can get a quote from any local muffler shop on fixing the stock b-pipe...I bet they will be able to cut off the crushed section and weld another one back in. This way, you will save money and space from storing the stock B-pipe.

 

I have a WSP B pipe and I have no problems with it. If you do get a custom pipe made get one that is mendrel bent. I personally dont think it is worth getting a crushed pipe. My .02.

 

The warpspeed one which I also have is a good deal for the price. Most custom ones that exhaust places will make are crush bent....

 

That will be pretty loud.

 

Hi guys,

Yesterday I finished installing my Warpspeed B-pipe without resonator. The install was a byotch, but that's beside the point because it's my own dang fault I live in minnesota. The bolts were so corroded and getting the o2 sensor out was a nightmare. I had to take the max to Car-X to get the bolts loose, and had to go back a second time to get help twisting the sensor out. Those guys were great, didn't charge me for the second time...but they were pretty impressed with the mandrel bending of the b-pipe and the y-pipe.

I paid 125 for my B, given a 25 discount for repeat customer. But you're right about one thing. Dallas is hard to get a hold of. And it took absolutely forever to get my subframes from his shop. But ohhh was it worth it. I had to take the subframes off to put the B on, and I test drove it around and the car is absolutely everywhere, I can't wait to bolt them back on. The deal with Dallas, I think, is that he cares about performance more than smacking a few bucks out of us mod hungry guys. When I do get him on the phone, we can talk about his car ideas forever. If you've got a fitment problem, it is likely related to installation. The s-section was replaced with a little straight pipe at the shop that welded on my subframes in order to get the o2 sensor out of the way, and the guy didn't put the washers on right, and before long the thing was leaking. So go easy on Dallas, and do whatever you want to your car.

BTW: At idle, the thing is surprisingly quiet. At half or full throttle = VROOOM!

 

Another one you could try is Budget. Mandrel bent and about US$180 (with resonator) shipped. They also have a B pipe without resonator for $200 canadian. www.budgetexhaust.com

 

I think the 3 of you (so far) that are having problems with WS is because you all got the Y also and are 2k2 owners. As far as the B goes this should be a strait swap. There is only 1 hanger and it's held by the cat and muffler.
I bought a 2-1/2" B pipe w/res. from Dallas last week. (It will be delivered today ) While I have not had any post sale issues, and hopefully won't, I have called him a couple of times to find out about the shipment and I have had no problem getting a hold of him. Not only that but we had a few very good conversations. Did you guys know he opening another shop?
Now as far as installation goes a B pipe is pretty easy guys there is no reason to pay someone to do it. There are only 4 bolts and 1 O2 sensor and 1 clamp. Just unplug the sensor so you don't twist up the wire. With a Y things get a little more complicated but if you have the tools you can do it. The hardest part is the O2 sensors, but there is a tool made just for this purpose you can get it at most auto part stores. You sould also have plenty of extentions of different lengths in your box.

No one is perfect while I don't recomend buying a Y for 02+ car from any manufacturer because of no gains, 01 and older should get one. When I got Y and B pipes with a muffler from Stillen to put on my 99 Max I had fitment problems and rattles, they even had to send me a new Y.

 

1) It will be delivered today = it'll be delivered in a couple weeks. I was told this every day that I called for 2 weeks.

2) I currently live in a townhouse and the HOA prohibits working on cars in our developement.

My wife get's home at 8pm daily, I travel quite often and I have a 1 year old daughter. Finding time and a location to install modifications can be difficult. What's easy for some is not easy to others for a whole range of reasons.

I agree, Dallas is very personable and a pleasure to chat with when you are able to reach him. Having to pay $178 for his mistake will negate me being a repeat customer. $178 includes the shop taking off the original B pipe, trying to install the wrong sized B pipe that WSP sent and then installing the original B pipe.

 

Anyway to shrink your sig picture a little? It kills the veiwing of the threads because my laptop resolution sucks.

 

I originally had a custom 2.5" crush bent cat back exhaust with a dual tipped magnaflow muffler. I didn't have a resonator and I could not stand it. The car sounded awsome at idle but anything at 2000-3000 rpm's was annonying due to the interior droning noise. I then purchased the WSP "B" pipe with res and installed the stock muffler section. My car is nice and quite until I floor it and then the exhaust sounds a little deeper and different than stock. My car sounds much better than my buddies stock 2K2 6 speed. I have yet to see what my car is running the 1/4 mile in but my but dyno shows great improvement over stock with the WSP "B". I am willing to bet that the WSP "B" setup I have now flows even better than the crush bent cat back that I had originally. I have had the WSP "B" installed since December 02 and have not noticed any signs of corrosion on it from the salt we had on the streets up here in Mass this winter. So far I am very happy with the quality and service I received from WSP. I did not have any fitment issues and my exhaust is completely rattle free (I had a local muffler joint instal it for $40). Hope this helps.

 

1) Got it today
2) Yup, what's easy for some is not easy for others. I just can't see paying to get this type of work done, but that's just me. I also thought that's one of the benefits of the .org, getting people together. I have done installs for a few members. I'm sure that there are a few people in your area here that would be more than happy to help you out if you’d ask.

And as far as getting the wrong parts from WS I can see them paying all the freight and maybe giving you a discount on future business but cutting a check for labor isn't good business. I'm sorry your experience with WS wasn't that good and that you bought a Y pipe in the 1st place. And I hope your future mods go smoother.

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm very happy with the performance aspect of the WSP Y and B pipes. I'm getting a tad better gas mileage on average and got 5hp and 6tq increase. It's a shame I didn't dyno the Y and then the B instead of both.

 

Well I just this second ordered the PT1011 muffler. I'll probably wait a little while before the install. Still haven't decided if I should get a local shop to mendral bend a custom one for me or order one from WS. Maybe someone will be selling their b-pipe in the classified thread. Owell Can anyone out there get me a discount from WS? lol thanks anyway guys. I appreciate the responses.

 

This may be a dumb question, but how does an individual install the b-pipe. Isn't there welding involved with connecting the muffler onto the b-pipe?

 

Not if you don't want to.

Jack the car up and place jack stands under it or back the car up ramps and chalk the front tires. Making sure the car is cool and spraying the following bolts and nuts with Liquid Wrench will help them come off pretty easy.
You remove the 2 bolts at flange on the back of the Cat and the 2 bolts at the flange to the muffler pipe then slide the B-pipe off the hanger. The stock pipe is now off.

Aftermarket B-pipes are sold in 2 pieces for easy of shipping. Where the 2 pieces join can be welded or held together with the supplied clamp. Now you just reverse the above process replacing the gaskets with the ones supplied and your done.

1hr job or less for me but shouldn't take more than 2 for most people.

 

that's a good lookin' pipe, and for that price, whoa. but what is the diameter of the stock one? also, i looked at the website and the price listed is different. how did you get the $180 US shipped? really interested. here any fitment issues with this pipe? what muffler did you use? thanks!

n1cK!

 

I was wrong. The Warpspeed B-Pipe was not as easy to install as the Stillen is for earlier models.
1st the pipe must be welded.
2nd the clamp hanger needs to be modified.
3rd this would best be done on a lift as needs to be wrestled with to get it in the right position before welding so there are no rattles.
Lastly I got a smaller rubber hanger from Napa.
Install time with the right tools just under 2hrs.

I apologize for my earlier statement and for any confusion. I should have done it 1st before I opened my mouth. When I put the Stillen B on my 99 it was a piece of cake compared to this.

 

B/c on the budget website all the prices are Canadian prices and for the US its a lot less.

 

Is the Budget b-pipe a straight fit? Has anyone else had trouble with the WSP b-pipe install?

 

Actually I just got back from installing the budget pipe on my car. (I had to replace the custom one I had built earlier because of various issues). The budget is 2.5" diameter (I measured it myself) and is mandrel bent all the way (absolutely no crush bends). I used the stock muffler with it and it bolted up cleanly, no fitment issues at all. I went with the B with resonator (the resonator they put onit was actually a stainless steel magnaflow 14" body one.) The workmanship was A1. BTW, the price worked out to US$175 shipped.

 

Anyone with a 2002 have good luck with this pipe aswell?

 

So has everyone had fitment issues with the WSP and why WSP over Budget? I want the pros and cons of both. The budget is cheaper and seems to be a better pipe with no modification to make it fit. Anyone else have any input?

and this post was actually just a "bump" for myself.

 

I don't know what the diameter on the budget pipe is but it's a stainless and the cost is $190.00US with a resonator, plus shipping.(not bad) It also looks like it is a 1-piece unit, so it will be fairly easy to install by yourself. But if the diameter of it is not over 2" then what’s the point? From one of the pics on their site it doesn't look much bigger than stock. You need to call and find out.
I did not have a fitment issue with the WS pipe. It actually fits very well I just needed to do a little work to the hanger clamp that came with it. I think most of the fitment issues you've heard of are with their Y pipe. With this one it's not stainless and it needs to be welded so self-install is probably out.

 

Just to clarify, the budget pipe is 2.5" in diameter and is a 2-piece unit (makes it easier to ship I guess) and the two pieces are bolted together. All the hardware (bolts, nuts and gaskets) is provided by budget.

 

Well I just ordered the budget b-pipe. Why you ask. It's direct bolt on and I've heard of no fitment issues with the pipe. Doesn't make sense though that it's going to be shipped out Tuesday when today is Wednesday. I guess they only have certain pickup days from UPS or something. Lady was nice. Hopefully it will be $180 shipped and not $190 shipped because she said $180 at first then changed it to $190. I guess it's however they interpret the currency, but it is $190, but just hoping for a mistake. She did say that most 2002 Maximas have been ordering the pipe without the resonator. I want the resonator, but I don't think I've seen too many people without one here on the org. Owell sorry for boring everyone with this lame post and thanks. Later

 

Good choice to get it with the resonator.