I'll let you know, I'm not picking up until tomorrow. I couldn't get there tonight and they said no problem with the rental.

Yeah, the 2K-2K1 Focus are pretty rough in the problem dept but like I said earlier, everyone I talked to that had either a 2K2 or 2K3 like them a lot.

I dunno...when I get the interior doesn't scream cheap..it seems more importish then lets say....yeah a Chevy Cavalier...lol...this rental is making my head turn. I never thought there could be so much difference between a Ford (Focus at least) and a Chevy (Cavalier at least). The Cav is just so cheesy and un-user friendly. I have to reach for every **** and dial and the seats are so mushy

The 2.2 does pull like a ***** though

You are right, there is no forum for the Focus like this one...I love this forum. There is one that is sort of good but doesnt hold a candle to Maxima.org

 

good point since so many "imports" are made is the u.s Except they are still imports since their domestic content not enough to warrant it domestic..
that probably why the new acura/honda have tranny problems..made in america...but notice not the rl since its still made in japan.

 

My roommate has a 2k Wrangler, 4.0 and all. Its worth like 14k, he paid 25k for it new in 2000, nice try on a 97 going for 12k

 

False sense of security?


Hey jnm2kse, dont forget to let me know what the "resolution" was on teh Focus!

Colonel

 

No I am just telling you that my roommate's has like 35k on it and its worth 14k, I doubt a jeep that is 3 years older is gonna only be 2k less. This is not a flame, just thinking in terms of used cars in general and Jeeps aren't that well made, Grand Cherokees are POSs

 

Oh, I agree...the comment is more for jeepik. Not you. I have worked on jeeps, my brother owned a Jeep. I feel sorry for Jeep owners that dont own the old CJ7's

 

***Note*** the following is a bit long and retorious t osome so just skip it as i dont think i am out to prove a point, just am really bored at work

ok let me break it down to you. what makes a wrangler not depreciate is the 6 cylinder engine option. Everything else doesnt matter, so your roomate payed 25 grand for a wrangler that could have been had for 18 without all the options that he got. And options dont matter at all when reselling a vehicle, and matter especially less when selling a Jeep, as they are very minor. So as soon as a wrangler is sold and is considered used it jumps into used price range where they stick for at least 5+ years. For 6 cylinder's that range is 17-12.. for instance 2002's are selling around 117 grand now, while 2000-2001's are being sold for around 15 and 1997-1999 go anywhere between 12-15 depending on condiotions. 1997's have now droppped in price though since its been five years already. Its not a myth its a fact, same thing held true for the previous mode lof the wrangler.

So yea, year doesnt matter for the most part and the difference in price is very small between the years of production. That is actually very good since most people hold on to their vehicles for around 3 years for the most part.

Here is another example, my 2001 Camry XLE v6 depreciated much much much more then a standard 4 cylinder Camry LE evnethough the price difference in MSRP's was roughly 8 grand.

If your roomate really wanted to not loose a lot of money on his Jeep he should have bought the bottom of the line 6 cylinder and not the top of the line one. that's the smart buy.

Same thing with a Maxima, leather, Bose. Climate control, spoiler, bla bla bla become virtually worthless when looking at a value of a used car.

But yet we still purchase cars with the options that we want and not what the used car buyer of my cr will want 3+ years down the road when the car will be sold.
Because it is all about driver comforts and wants now not later!!! Such is life

damn, i dont even know what i started writing about

 

http://www3.nadaguides.com/Values/Va...=2000&ColorId=

Looks like trade in is only about $14k to me. Might be more if he sold it privately.

 

I looked it up under KBB, my fault. NADA is more accurate

 

You must have owned a 2000 or 2001. The 02-03s hang and/or beat Zs. Pretty sad IMO...I love the look on the Z guys face that speaks "how can your 4 door family car beat me!" LOL!

But, anyway, the guy traded for a focus, thats cool by me. as long as you like what you drive...

 

 

I can't believe this thread is still going.

Oh well.

 

Good luck with the focus (no flame) I think they look sweet lowered with rims. Its not my style though. The bigger the car the better. New A8 awwwwww! I had one thing to say about reliability and problems with cars. There are always going to be good and bad cars with in a certain manufacture and a certain car. That is the way it goes. Everybody has seen it, some people have gone through 3 or more auto trannys on the 5 gen. I have 2k auto with almost 94K on it. NO problems what so ever with the tranny. Have tranny cooler, installed about 20k ago. TSB arent even done on it! (working on it)Replaced maf, coils, brakes, struts, Climate Control module (warranty). For a car with almost 94k thats not bad. Ow I forgot I drive my max HARD!! Manual shift all the time take to redline alot, but I change my oil (synthetic Mobil1) religiously every 3k, and have done 2 many to count tranny flushes (freind works at infiniti). There will always be good and bad stories, thats how it works. The most important thing is to do what U want to do and like, and what fits into your economical position. Everybody has there own opinion.

 

The FAILING Honda/Acura V6 Tranny's ARE MADE IN JAPAN!

Meaning...the transmissions are built in Japan. They are shipped to the US and then put into the cars.

 

It didn't have an overheating problems that I was ever aware of. It was more the piddly little ****...dash warpage, idle air control valve, parking brake, water pump (this one killed your engine), lights, clock...

It was such a great car other than all the stupid little things that went wrong every other month.

 

Back to Consumer Reports and reliability. The Focus pretty has bad reliability (used to be horrible). Out of small cars, it's got the worst reliability of all cars in that category. 2000 and 2001 model years had worse than average reliability, but the 2002 has improved to average.

Compare that to the Maxima where EVERY year got better than average, which also got the best reliability rating in the "family cars" category.

I wouldn't call these reliability ratings "opinions". They're based on stats from annual surveys sent out to readers. Sure, you can go ignore CR's opinions if you think they're bunk. But to me, they're a lot less biased (not saying that they're more valid though) than most of the other car mags out there which accept advertising and have manufacturers provide them press cars. Also, who knows what kinda perks the editors/reviewers at most car mags get.

 

Im the biggest anti-Ford guy I know.. BUT....
Best of luck... And guess what you are not stuck with that car for life.. So dont go crazy justifying yourself.
You have a new car..no rattle's,noise etc.
Just do all of us a favor and check-in with us next year and tell us how its going and maybe prove some of us wrong about a Ford.

 

That's because we've never met.

 

 

I can "check in" after a year. Its STILL solid. STILL has less chips. No rattles, no whistles, no wind noise, no sun roof problems, no tranny issues. BUT, no power either. The brake issue Focus' have, not applicable to my machine.

So, yes, be anti Ford...but they can make stuff. What good is a Max if the body is rusting and all chipped to death?