Pulled up to an Audi A4 3.0 V6 at a light the other day. I wasn't looking to race, but when the light turned green, he bolted. Toying with him, I accelerated just enough to keep up with him (3/4 throttle 2nd/3rd gear. I wanted to floor my Max and pass the POS, but I let up on the gas when I saw that cars were about to exit the off ramp about a quarter a mile away from light. He proceeded to weave in and around slower traffic without signaling.

I hope he doesn't think that the Audi was faster...because my Max had a lot more to dish out.

Errr..right?

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POS? that audi 3.0 is better than the max in every way except for speed..

 

Yeah man....A4 3.0's are great cars...always wanted one of those...but interior a little small....speed wise...it will give a 2000 5spd a good run....

 

The chassis feels solid and power is decent. Straight line is all the 3.0 is lacking, doesnt help that it tips the scale over 3500 pounds.

 

Audi A4 is a great car. 3.0 is slow but it handles great. Exterior and interior look and feel great. Newer A4 are much bigger inside than previus versions. Customer service is not Nissan. My buddy has an older A4 and he get TT loaner everytime he goes in for service.
there is a root supercharger for 2.8 audi's that makes them 305 hp. whole kit cost aroung $5k and it's a bolt on. Took us couple of days to install it.

 

All i know is the S4 is the ****. S4

 

definitely. don't dis the 3.0 A4. those things are built like a vault - in comparison, the maxima seems like a big collection of cost cutting short cuts.

people who buy audis don't buy for speed - they buy for a quality car that drives rock solid at speed and handles like it's on rails.

 

My experience with Audi's (through people I know) is that they are unreliable, expensive/difficult to maintain, and depreciate rapidly. They complain to me about how it can take weeks to get a part or to make an appointment just to get an oil change. From my perspective, I like the looks but the reliability scares me too much. Just my $.02.

 

IIRC, they have a slightly higher reliability rating than Nissan...

 

that's definitely true of older audis, but the newer ones are pretty good, as quicksilver notes. i did my research on them as i almost bought a 1.8T A4 over my 2k2 maxima and definitely found this to be true. they have FREE scheduled maintenance for 3yrs/36K. can't argue with that!

 

You cant "diss" an A4 its a really smooth ride.

but you can say its a little over priced! i would want more speed for me to dishout 30k-40k for an A4

But thats me and my liking!

 

i've driven the A6 3.0 and i hate how it drives. suspension is stiffer than the maxes and i know they're supposed to be nice cars, but i couldnt accelerate smoothly or even steer well. dont like how it drives at all. personally, i would never buy one.

 

that's true...Only if 3.0 produces more horses.....

 

Yeah,those S4 is no joke.They are 14 low.

 

if you chip the A4, that thing will fly past a max

 

If u chip a A4 is only 20hp+....but if its a s4...then 70hp+

 

We're talking the v6 here not the 1.8t.

 

The 1.8T chip adds more like 40+ HP (some have shown as high as 65 hp)...the 3.0 V6 is onlt 20-25 HP gain with the chip.

 

My friend got a chip for his 2001 1.8T A4 and that thing is pretty fast.
When I used to have 2000 SE 5-speed, he would give me a good run in his A4.

As for S4, it is nice car too, I run one a while back in 2002 6-speed and it was pretty even, I pulled a little bit on him.

 

Let's not forget, folks, we're basically talking about a Volkswagen Jetta here! It's nice, but it ain't really all that. Lot of better cars out there for the price--one of which happens to be made by Nissan (G35/Skyline).

 

As an owner of a '97 A4 for 2 1/2 years, I can tell you that the car is better built, handles better, feels stronger, and is far better in all weather conditions. However, NOTHING goes wrong the first 40K miles. I bought mine w/ 48K on it. In 60K worth of driving i replaced the following - 2 water pumps, 1 entire timing belt change, including pullies, rear seals, rear bearings, control links on front suspension, headlight case (i don't even know how that broke), brakes ($1000), tires (i really wish bridgestone RE950 came in our size). It was a total of about $8K worth of work.

The car was dead slow compared to the 2003. But the day the G35 or Max comes out with an all-wheel platform, sign me up. In the end, I've been happy with the max. But when im making corners and taking off ramps at 50-70, believe me, i really wish i was in the audi.

And to all those who say Maxes are built well - you have not driven or sat inside an Audi, which is a 2nd class german car. It's built like a tank, and costs about as much to maintain.

Cheers -
jerome

 

Just like the A4. That car in no way or fashion compares to a max

 

Sure it does...in price (well, close)

 

I agree about the interior and build of the A4. It is a very nice car. I don't like the exterior of the earlier version as much(pre-2002?) since it looks so much like a jetta.

As for chipping, I did a bunch of highway runs against a chipped 1.8 Jetta. I was impressed with how strong it ran. He was nearly able to keep up with me in 3rd gear rolls from 70 to the top of third (although I had a passenger). I would pull away as I hit higher rpms but by no means was I killing him. We did a couple 3rd then 4th run with him behind me and I put several cars on him to the top of 4th. Of course, I've got a few mods.

ALL I CAN GO BY IS WHAT HE TOLD ME - CHIPPED. If you believe he was lying don't take it out on me.

I did discover that his car appeared to get slower in successive runs - likely because of the heat. I don't know if the 1.8 is like the Saab Viggen in that it allows overboost for a short period and then pulls it back based on temp.

 

chipped 1.8T are fast, they have lots of torque gains which helps them alot on 60+ mph. my friend chipped his 2k 1.8T A4, and that thing flys now. He has the sport package, so now he has speed and good handling, those things handle stock like a motherfu*ker.

there is no comparison between Audi's and Nissans. WHen you sit in an Audi , you can defintley feel it, the ride is soo smooth on those things and it can never compare to a Nissan. maybe the Infiniti can keep up with it.

 

Unless you are heavily mod'd, the S4 would tear your doors off. Its a rocket at any speed. Especially in 40-100.

 

Don't get me wrong, I love my Max. But the A4 has nothing to do w/ the Jetta. Its much closer to the Passat in hardware. Even the G35 does not quite match up to the quality of the A4. But they are equivalent cars in many ways. Now if ONLY NISSAN would make an ALL WHEEL DRIVE!

 

Soon my friends i have heard rumors at the nissan and infinity dealerships!!!

Can you say 3.5, awd, and 6speed?

 

Can you say 'people who don't know their current cars, let alone future ones'??

Dealerships suck for that kind of thing. They either talk out their a$$ out of stupidity or trying to look like they know something...often both.

 

i assure you that im "updated on cars". Two different sales reps told me when i bought my g35 that they are going to make (an all wheel drive suv (fx45) and when they redesign the I35, they are going to make it all wheel drive........so i guess they are so far right. But you never know like you said!


o... i dont like it when people diss me saying im dumb and dont know anything about cars.....so......answer this one ...

...who founded Nissan and when? or what other company is nissan partners with?

 

No, this has nothing to do with YOU!!!


Weren't dealers also the ones who were running off at the mouth about the 6th Gen Max supposedly going to be an 8 cylinder, etc.??? Also, the particular dealers you dealth with...correct me if I am wrong but I thought the I35 had been dropped from the line in lieu of the G35. How are they going to redesign a dropped car?

I know also, even with current cars I had to correct more than one dealership about features and specs when I shopped for my AE.

As for the history lesson, etc. and current business relations...that is VERY easily found be utilizing internet resources and proves nothing.

 

lol Ok...Lets get back on topic.......

 

Yeah, dealers know a lot

 

You're smoking funny cigars again??

 

looks like it

 

my buddy has a s4 (2000) with exhaust and intake. 14.90 gtech time.we did it 3 timesand that was the quickest. my max does 15.1 average. his car really doesn't seem that quick. the last time he dumped clutch at about 5k!!!

 

renault , founded in 1914.......established in 1933 hey heres one for ya? why did they change the nissan name to datsun and back to nissan in the usa?

 

The A4 and Jetta are the same platform, same manufacturer. A6, A8, and Passat are the same as well.

 

Volks and Audi manufacture out of seperate sites. However, if you look at early Passats, they had shared suspension (even Audi branded) parts, etc.

The platform, I believe, is quiet different for the Jetta and the A4. Though they are similar in size, engine options etc. However, you will never see an all wheel drive Jetta. And, i don't believe the V6 in the VR6 is the same as Audi's 3.0.

Volks/Audi is very similar to Nissan/Inf.

 

The VR6 is a 2.8l, not a 3.0.