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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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durango vs. 01 max?

who would win?

a 1999/2000? durango with intake/exhaust or a 2001 gxe with intake? both are auto. V8 vs. V6 but the durango is a pretty big truck...
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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This is a joke right?
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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haha
Old Aug 2, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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This is a joke right?
i hope so. i toasted an r/t one in my 2k2 auto. was not pretty.
Old Aug 3, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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Stock or R/T doesn't matter time wise. The Durango with the 4.7 liter engine does a 0-60 in 8 seconds and a high 15 quarter. With mods I'm sure it'll do low 15's. There is a ton or mods for them. Go to www.dodgetrucks.org They can tell you alot and the forum's maturity is of a high caliber as is here.
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Stock or lightly modded Durango will not be able to take the '01 GXE. Now my '02 Dakota, that's another story.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:11 AM
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LMAO. I leave Durangos in my 2.5 Altima all the time, so you should have no trouble in your Maxima.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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I got a V6 Durango as a rental one time.....I drove the thing one time and I was gonna puke since it was so floaty, and its SLOW as hell!
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 05:38 AM
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I would put my $ on the Max. I know how my reg cab, short bed 94 Dakota with the 5.2 and auto run against my wife's SE. I can get her at the light and stay ahead til about 60 when the 3.0 hits the powerband in 2nd. I have a flowmaster muffler, dual 2.5" tails, K&N drop in, Accel coil and MSD wires on my Dak. Also runnin' 3.55 gears.... if I had the 3.92 or 4.11 some guys are running then the Dak would win hands down to about 80 MPH. The 4.7 is smooth as butter compared to my 5.2.

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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 05:56 AM
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You're going to attract Mr. Gone to this thread.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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They can tell you alot and the forum's maturity is of a high caliber as is here.
what are you trying to infer about maxima.org maturity or lackthereof???

Old Aug 4, 2003 | 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by SR20DEN
You're going to attract Mr. Gone to this thread.

stock vs stock, this is a joke. IMHO the R/T is a joke, yeah their "cool" and all or whatever, but their not as powerful as they should be.


Now a modified Durango (or Dakota for that matter) vs a stock max, I'm partial to the 5.2l engine, everyone and their mom thinks the 5.9 is where its at, but anyway.... The stock "kegger" intake manifold on both the 5.2/5.9 are limited from 0-3500rpm (ish) and it just drops like a rock right after that. opening up the runners will regain the 3500-redline power back, which is something anyone who wants more power out of those motors should do, that or buy a Mopar Performance M1 Intake manifold. I home ported my throttle body and noticed abit more pull and alot more lowend and little maybe an extra 200rpm or so worth of pull on the top end, the tires spin even easier afterward. A Mopar Performance PCM will get you quite abit more power, and will bump the rev limiter up, and best of all only costs $325-375 depending on your model. Along with that, the Mopar Performance (PPH) headers will free things up quite abit, and some 1.6/1.7 roller rockers are worth a few more ponies and lbs ft. There's alot more, but this is a Maxima site.


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Old Aug 4, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by SR20DEN
You're going to attract Mr. Gone to this thread.
Oops..... too late!
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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If a maxima ever losses to a durango...I will burn my maxima.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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If a maxima ever losses to a durango...I will burn my maxima.

You're going to have to burn your can then cause im sure somewhere out there is a Durango that will outrun your maxima.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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somewhere..... over the rainbow
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:51 AM
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I guess I found the area over the rainbow....



One of my personal favorites, this ones a dakota...



oops, I really dont like to see maxima's burn, so dont say $hit like that next time. Where there's a will theres away, and theres a ton of die-hard Mopar guys out there...
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:52 AM
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Ok I forgot to mention stock durango.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 07:55 AM
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who would win?

a 1999/2000? durango with intake/exhaust or a 2001 gxe with intake? both are auto. V8 vs. V6 but the durango is a pretty big truck...
I think he was being a bit specific as to what kind of mods the durango has.

oops, I really dont like to see maxima's burn, so dont say $hit like that next time. Where there's a will theres away, and theres a ton of die-hard Mopar guys out there...
yep, just like there are "die-hard Nissan guys" here!
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Originally posted by JCW915
Ok I forgot to mention stock durango.
JCW915, I am with you. I will also burn my car! (unless I make a mistake and shift into reverse - then I want a rematch)
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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Hey, I'm a Nissan guy as well, I already said in a previous post that stock for stock, theres no way in hell the Durango will win, they are just not setup for it, so theres no reason to try and argue with me, when I already have answered his question and your arguing is actually agreeing with me.


now just for kicks, check out this

http://www.gsmotorsports.com/dynos.htm

408ci Stroker Engine on 13psi of boost.
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by MrGone
Hey, I'm a Nissan guy as well, I already said in a previous post that stock for stock, theres no way in hell the Durango will win, they are just not setup for it, so theres no reason to try and argue with me, when I already have answered his question and your arguing is actually agreeing with me.


now just for kicks, check out this

http://www.gsmotorsports.com/dynos.htm

408ci Stroker Engine on 13psi of boost.

touchy touchy!
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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Originally posted by HerBlue2kSE
I would put my $ on the Max. I know how my reg cab, short bed 94 Dakota with the 5.2 and auto run against my wife's SE. I can get her at the light and stay ahead til about 60 when the 3.0 hits the powerband in 2nd. I have a flowmaster muffler, dual 2.5" tails, K&N drop in, Accel coil and MSD wires on my Dak. Also runnin' 3.55 gears.... if I had the 3.92 or 4.11 some guys are running then the Dak would win hands down to about 80 MPH. The 4.7 is smooth as butter compared to my 5.2.

Travis


Hey Travis,
Is your Dak 4wd? if so, do the first gens run the NP231?
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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Dude, I am telling you, my stock Durango is decently fast and if you fall asleep it'll be a close race for a 2k/2k1 Maxima. The Maxima should win. Just a simple PCM upgrade will give them hp increases like the VW's get. I saw a show on TNN showing over 100hp increase on the Dodge Ram with the Cummins diesel engine. Everyone here that's boasting there is no way you can lose to a Durango, put your title's on the line and I'll take that race. You can mod your car to the sky with exception of juice and I'll do the same. Any takers?
Old Aug 4, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Originally posted by Virus
Dude, I am telling you, my stock Durango is decently fast and if you fall asleep it'll be a close race for a 2k/2k1 Maxima. The Maxima should win. Just a simple PCM upgrade will give them hp increases like the VW's get. I saw a show on TNN showing over 100hp increase on the Dodge Ram with the Cummins diesel engine. Everyone here that's boasting there is no way you can lose to a Durango, put your title's on the line and I'll take that race. You can mod your car to the sky with exception of juice and I'll do the same. Any takers?

The Cummins Diesel is one of the most detuned engines placed in a factory car. It loves mods.

just for kicks, what engine do you have Virus?
Running no juice (or boosted?) this will be fun to see the results.
I'd keep the 3.92 Trac-Lok though, no need to go any higher
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Originally posted by MrGone


Hey Travis,
Is your Dak 4wd? if so, do the first gens run the NP231?
It's a 2wd 5.2, 518 auto with 3.55's ...... Here is my evil twin having fun with the Dak about a month ago:






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The Cummins Diesel is one of the most detuned engines placed in a factory car. It loves mods.

just for kicks, what engine do you have Virus?
Running no juice (or boosted?) this will be fun to see the results.
I'd keep the 3.92 Trac-Lok though, no need to go any higher
I have the 4.7 in my 2k1 Durango. I would love to mod it, but unfortunately I'm about to embark on a $3,000 mortgage in a couple of months and will be lucky if I can afford mustard for my cheese sandwiches. Freaking daycare is costing me $1,600 a month for 2 kids.
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speaking of dakota's and durango's... a friend of mine has a 2001 dakota auto w/ the 4.7L v8, he has intake and a 100 shot, and thinks he can tear me a new ***... to top it off, he thinks his truck is almost as fast as my car off the bottle... can you get much more cocky than that? plain stupidity...

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Originally posted by h2kFrosty
speaking of dakota's and durango's... a friend of mine has a 2001 dakota auto w/ the 4.7L v8, he has intake and a 100 shot, and thinks he can tear me a new ***... to top it off, he thinks his truck is almost as fast as my car off the bottle... can you get much more cocky than that? plain stupidity...

Bryan
Obviously he doesn't know his vehicle. If he's a regular cab, he can run 15.2 tops with traction stock w/out the bottle. There are regular cab 4.7L with the NV3500 (5 speed) that run high to almost mid 14's bone stock, but there are few that can drive them that well. My truck with all it's mods will only get into the low 14's to "maybe" high 13's (like 13.95) on a good day. But there again, I've got the club cab 4.7L with the 45RFE 4 speed auto (and a boat load of mods to boot).

By the way, your buddy actually lost his low end power curve by just installing the Jeep HO 4.7L Intake Manifold. He should have done the cams (or some of KRC's custom cams), the TB, exhaust, then the Intake in order to continually gain on the HP trail with that engine.

I assume it's the Jeep HO Intake manifold since it is the only available optional intake for the 4.7L engine (currently).
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I have the 4.7 in my 2k1 Durango. I would love to mod it, but unfortunately I'm about to embark on a $3,000 mortgage in a couple of months and will be lucky if I can afford mustard for my cheese sandwiches. Freaking daycare is costing me $1,600 a month for 2 kids.
There's only one ECU flash for your/my year Daks. It's the Kenne Bell Optimizer II. No one else has the ***** to try and break the coding I guess...either that, or they aftermarket desn't give a rats a$$ about the 4.7L engine. It's too bad, b/c the engine has tons of potential.
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You know, the Max IS fast, but I wouldn't go around with a 'top dog' attitude.

An old roommate of mine had a modded '93 Z28 that was pretty quick... at least, he thought so. He was at a light next to a Jeep renegade and when the light turned green, he punched it... only to watch the tail lights of the Jeep slowly moving away in front of him... !
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Obviously he doesn't know his vehicle. If he's a regular cab, he can run 15.2 tops with traction stock w/out the bottle. There are regular cab 4.7L with the NV3500 (5 speed) that run high to almost mid 14's bone stock, but there are few that can drive them that well. My truck with all it's mods will only get into the low 14's to "maybe" high 13's (like 13.95) on a good day. But there again, I've got the club cab 4.7L with the 45RFE 4 speed auto (and a boat load of mods to boot).

By the way, your buddy actually lost his low end power curve by just installing the Jeep HO 4.7L Intake Manifold. He should have done the cams (or some of KRC's custom cams), the TB, exhaust, then the Intake in order to continually gain on the HP trail with that engine.

I assume it's the Jeep HO Intake manifold since it is the only available optional intake for the 4.7L engine (currently).
No, he's ghetto... He made an intake out of PVC pipe, its quite interesting looking, and his is an extended cab.

Bryan
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Originally posted by Quicksilver


There's only one ECU flash for your/my year Daks. It's the Kenne Bell Optimizer II. No one else has the ***** to try and break the coding I guess...either that, or they aftermarket desn't give a rats a$$ about the 4.7L engine. It's too bad, b/c the engine has tons of potential.
How much does the flash cost and what's the hp and tq gain?
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Why is this even being discussed. Racing a pig heavy SUV or truck? Come on now. The Max is a quick family sedan - not a drag car and the Dode products are not exactly rockets either. Sheesh...

Not impressed that someone may have spent thousands to make a slow truck a little faster. Anybody can make a vehicle go fast with enough money. Ive seen a Chevy Monza run 150+ in an 1/8 mile I imagine the 1/4 would be 175+ easily. Also saw a guy in a crew can diesel Chevy run a 9 sec flat 1/8 mile time and beat a Z28 Camaro, Mitsubishi Eclipse, riced Honda Civic and many others.

Sorry guys I raced last weekend and those fools who think their trucks and SUVs are fast annoyed the crap out of me.
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You're going to have to burn your can then cause im sure somewhere out there is a Durango that will outrun your maxima.
Yeah, thats a big statement yo! Dont you know they have Supercharger for them too! Look out when they decide to drop the Hemi in, or look out for those guys who secretly swapped for a Mopar performance Hemi pumping only about 550 horses. That many horses will move a whole hella lotta truck fast!
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Actually, Dodge is making a Dakota SRT that will make 500+ hp and 500+ tq. The 2k4 Durango should be getting a 350hp Hemi.
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Actually, Dodge is making a Dakota SRT that will make 500+ hp and 500+ tq. The 2k4 Durango should be getting a 350hp Hemi.
The 2k4 Durango will go upsize and be based on the updated Ram platform and yes it will get the hemi.

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Originally posted by HerBlue2kSE

The 2k4 Durango will go upsize and be based on the updated Ram platform and yes it will get the hemi.

And fuel economy is supposed to go up by 20%
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Actually, Dodge is making a Dakota SRT that will make 500+ hp and 500+ tq. The 2k4 Durango should be getting a 350hp Hemi.
Who cares. They are too big and heavy to be fast or handle well. The For Lightening is the only one to come close and handling is still not all that great. You just can't realistically make a big SUV or a truck a sports car. Again-any vehiocle can be fast with $ but 500+ HOP in a Surango would get it into the 14s in a 1/4 mile. So lets say you can even get it into the high 13s. big whoop. Still slow comared to other vehicles with the same power.
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Who cares. They are too big and heavy to be fast or handle well. The For Lightening is the only one to come close and handling is still not all that great. You just can't realistically make a big SUV or a truck a sports car. Again-any vehiocle can be fast with $ but 500+ HOP in a Surango would get it into the 14s in a 1/4 mile. So lets say you can even get it into the high 13s. big whoop. Still slow comared to other vehicles with the same power.
The 500 hp Dakota truck is expected to run high 11's low 12's. That's alot faster than the Ford Lightning. As far as handling, it will handle a hell of alot better than our Maximas as ground clearance won't be much. The stock Durango runs high 15's in the 1/4 with only 235hp.



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