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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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Fill my car up with gas, while it is still on?
I forgot to turn the damn thing off, I wouldn't figure it would, but some people say it does.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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huh????????
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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It won't hurt your car but it is dangerous. Any little spark or static electricity could ignite the fumes.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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I never turn off my car while filling up. Haven't had a problem nor have I read or heard of any reports of people blowing up by leaving their car on while pumping gas.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_maxx03
Fill my car up with gas, while it is still on?
I forgot to turn the damn thing off, I wouldn't figure it would, but some people say it does.
It isn't necessarily bad for the car, but it might trip a MIL for loss of pressure in the gas tank, it may be illegal, and you could possibily blow yourself up given the right circumstances.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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I never turn off my car while filling up. Haven't had a problem nor have I read or heard of any reports of people blowing up by leaving their car on while pumping gas.
that is honesty a really stupid way to look at it. 1st of all there are signs telling you to turn your car off. they are there for a reason. gas pump fires can be started by something as minor as static electricity. dont you think a combustion engine might have potential to do the same?

what if i said "i smoke all the time while im at the pump. i havent had any problems yet". does that sound like intelligent reasoning to you?
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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Safe precaution to turn off your car when pumping gas
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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I never turn off my car while filling up. Haven't had a problem nor have I read or heard of any reports of people blowing up by leaving their car on while pumping gas.

Good thing I live Far far from you.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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Static electricity occurs whether the car is on or off. I turn mine off most of the time, except in the winter months.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 03BlkSETE
I never turn off my car while filling up. Haven't had a problem nor have I read or heard of any reports of people blowing up by leaving their car on while pumping gas.
Do you blow dry your hair while in the bath tub too?
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:19 AM
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Its just an extra precaution, but its not really necessary to turn the car off. If the burn from the engine ignited the fuel in the gas line, whether you were filling up at the gas station or not, the gastank would explode. If it we're truly that big of a concern, you should be more worried about driving. You spend 2min to fill up at a gas station, yet you drive around for much longer sessions with a tank full of gas, maybe not everyone fills up their tanks to full but nevertheless, you should be more worried about driving around a 3000lbs bomb. Its very unlikely the spark from the engine would ever cause ignite the gasoline, not impossible but highly unlikely.

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 02:03 AM
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I was driveing through Bridgeport Ct three weeks ago and funny enough there was a car fully engulfed in flames sitting at the pump. The person left there car on while pumping and it overflowed...thats what the attendent said anyway, could have really been caused by anything, just bad luck!
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SkylineGTR
Its just an extra precaution, but its not really necessary to turn the car off. If the burn from the engine ignited the fuel in the gas line, whether you were filling up at the gas station or not, the gastank would explode. If it we're truly that big of a concern, you should be more worried about driving. You spend 2min to fill up at a gas station, yet you drive around for much longer sessions with a tank full of gas, maybe not everyone fills up their tanks to full but nevertheless, you should be more worried about driving around a 3000lbs bomb. Its very unlikely the spark from the engine would ever cause ignite the gasoline, not impossible but highly unlikely.

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You forget about the fact that fumes are constantly spewing out of the gast tank while you are filling up.... Pressure goes in, that pressure has to go somewhere, right? Go blow into a coke bottle with a straw, and tell me where all that gas goes...right back into your face no? Exactly. When your car is on, it can very likely suck in those fumes, into your car via the ventilation system, and well...
Too many ways with the car on to have a nice large explosion. We're not saying the fuel line will blow up, we're saying the fumes from the gas receptor will. Totally different.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by nguyendot
You forget about the fact that fumes are constantly spewing out of the gast tank while you are filling up.... Pressure goes in, that pressure has to go somewhere, right? Go blow into a coke bottle with a straw, and tell me where all that gas goes...right back into your face no? Exactly. When your car is on, it can very likely suck in those fumes, into your car via the ventilation system, and well...
Too many ways with the car on to have a nice large explosion. We're not saying the fuel line will blow up, we're saying the fumes from the gas receptor will. Totally different.
Makes sense but you need quite a bit of gasoline vapors to blow something up, not to mention most gas stations are outdoors. Gas exploding by that factor is just as unlikely as the fuel line exploding. Again, its possible, but unlikely.

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Originally Posted by nguyendot
Do you blow dry your hair while in the bath tub too?
No, but one time I did play hockey with a tennis ball soaked in gasoline and lit on fire. It was great fun until it went rolling under a wood deck with a pile of dry leaves under it.
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Interesting link. Worth reading for those of you who are concerned with safety at the pumps. Seems their is more to be aware of then just turning your engine off.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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Bah, when I was 7, me and my cousin, who was 6, decided to play war in his basement, using a 24 case of pop as our grenades. He had hardfloor basement that had concrete under the tiling so you could chuck the cans at it and it wouldn't damage the floor. Shake, and slam them on the ground and watch them spray all over the place. Never crossed our minds that pop would make the floor sticky. Or that his parents might be mad. What the hell was I thinking!?

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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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I turn mine off most of the time, except in the winter months.
when static electricity is at its greatest... good move.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Lumbee1
Static electricity occurs whether the car is on or off. I turn mine off most of the time, except in the winter months.
That doesnt make any sense!

I know that in Canada its illegal to fill your tank while the car is running.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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That doesnt make any sense!

I know that in Canada its illegal to fill your tank while the car is running.
They don't make the rules hoping it will never happen. They made those rules because it HAS happened. I also see people coming into the gas station with lit cigarettes... Now that is even stupider..
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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i don't turn my car off either when its really cold out...
its like when ppl smoke they know that it can cause cancer but they still do it anyways...
i fill up my car with the car on, even knowing i might catch on fire...
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:43 PM
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talking on a cell phone can as dangerous as leaving the engine on while pumpng gas. It can realease alot of static electricity to cause spark.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKMAX005SPD
i don't turn my car off either when its really cold out...
its like when ppl smoke they know that it can cause cancer but they still do it anyways...
i fill up my car with the car on, even knowing i might catch on fire...
so far nobody with this attitude has explained WHY you do it??

Is it to look cool? Is it because you're lazy? Is it because you just want to do the opposite of what you're supposed to do?

It's not like the car will get cold in the 3 minutes it takes to gas up your car, so what's the reason for not turning it off?
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
so far nobody with this attitude has explained WHY you do it??

Is it to look cool? Is it because you're lazy? Is it because you just want to do the opposite of what you're supposed to do?

It's not like the car will get cold in the 3 minutes it takes to gas up your car, so what's the reason for not turning it off?
I only said i do it when its cold out...
when its 20 degrees out and the wind is blowing...i leave my car on...
why
becuase when you are done pumping the gas your cars nice and warm inside...heated seats on as well...and when you have ppl in your car they stay warm too
thats why i leave it on
cold weather sucks
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKMAX005SPD
I only said i do it when its cold out...
when its 20 degrees out and the wind is blowing...i leave my car on...
why
becuase when you are done pumping the gas your cars nice and warm inside...heated seats on as well...and when you have ppl in your car they stay warm too
thats why i leave it on
cold weather sucks
I don't know who's dumber, you for leaving it running or the people in your car for staying in a running car while it's being refueled...but then again, people of similar intelligence do tend to congregate

it takes 2 minutes to put gas in a car...just shut it off.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
I don't know who's dumber, you for leaving it running or the people in your car for staying in a running car while it's being refueled...but then again, people of similar intelligence do tend to congregate

it takes 2 minutes to put gas in a car...just shut it off.
dude...
we can do whatever we want...
my rents have done it there whole life, and nothing has gone wrong

it doesn't take 2 minutes either...
have you even been outside when its really cold out and windy????
come up here for a winter and you will see...
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKMAX005SPD
dude...
we can do whatever we want...
my rents have done it there whole life, and nothing has gone wrong

it doesn't take 2 minutes either...
have you even been outside when its really cold out and windy????
come up here for a winter and you will see...
how about you come up here... NH is north of you... apparently we can add "geography" to the list of things you're not good at.

and the "we can do whatever we want" argument doesn't fly... if you could only hurt/kill yourself I'd be all for it, but there are also other people at the station that could get hurt, and you could damage the station. It's not just about you.
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:38 PM
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hey they leave the cars running on NASCAR
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
how about you come up here... NH is north of you... apparently we can add "geography" to the list of things you're not good at.

and the "we can do whatever we want" argument doesn't fly... if you could only hurt/kill yourself I'd be all for it, but there are also other people at the station that could get hurt, and you could damage the station. It's not just about you.
hahaha my bad...i saw Southern i wasn't paying attention...
but man i am done talking about this, because i will always leave my car on while filling up in the cold weather.
no reason for fighting, your right i am wrong...but who cares its not gonna stop me and it won't stop the millions of other ppl that do it either.
BTW geography wasn't my strong point in school...so i will give myself one of these
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BLKMAX005SPD
i don't turn my car off either when its really cold out...
its like when ppl smoke they know that it can cause cancer but they still do it anyways...
i fill up my car with the car on, even knowing i might catch on fire...

except you smoking cigarettes isnt a direct and immediate threat to OTHER PEOPLE'S lives (unless its at the gas pump). your theory of "i always do it and nothing bad has happened" is just moronic. i'd expect people to have better common sense than that.

and so what if its cold out? no car will lose any significant amount of heat if you turn it off for the few minutes it takes to fill up the car.

as for the comment about cell phones....we you saying cell phones can cause gas fires just as easily? that reminded me of an episode of the show "Myth Busters" on discovery i saw a couple months ago. they took that myth and tested it and tested it and tested it and determined that cell phones probably cannot cause fires are the gas pump. that wasnt meant to tell you that you're wrong, it was more of an FYI if you are interested.

http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/my...thbusters.html
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Let's add some more fuel to the fire.

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except you smoking cigarettes isnt a direct and immediate threat to OTHER PEOPLE'S lives (unless its at the gas pump). your theory of "i always do it and nothing bad has happened" is just moronic. i'd expect people to have better common sense than that.

and so what if its cold out? no car will lose any significant amount of heat if you turn it off for the few minutes it takes to fill up the car.

as for the comment about cell phones....we you saying cell phones can cause gas fires just as easily? that reminded me of an episode of the show "Myth Busters" on discovery i saw a couple months ago. they took that myth and tested it and tested it and tested it and determined that cell phones probably cannot cause fires are the gas pump. that wasnt meant to tell you that you're wrong, it was more of an FYI if you are interested.

http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/my...thbusters.html
First off...i don't smoke...
and smoking does effect other ppl's lives becuase 2nd hand smoke is just as bad...
but thats off topic...
i have never seen a fire from someone leaving the car on...
did you know that if you let the gas pump, by itself and you go back into your car and sit and wait.
then you get out when its done, that can be a danger too!
Old Nov 1, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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talking on a cell phone can as dangerous as leaving the engine on while pumpng gas. It can realease alot of static electricity to cause spark.
Thats not necessarily true. Someone did an experiment once where they filled a room w/ gas mist and fumes and left a cell phone in there to see if they could ignite the gas. They weren't able to ignite the gas even with numerous attempts. Doesn't mean it couldn't happen...but its very unlikely.

I wouldn't do...but to each their own...
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Originally Posted by BLKMAX005SPD
First off...i don't smoke...
and smoking does effect other ppl's lives becuase 2nd hand smoke is just as bad...
but thats off topic...
i have never seen a fire from someone leaving the car on...
did you know that if you let the gas pump, by itself and you go back into your car and sit and wait.
then you get out when its done, that can be a danger too!

i never said you smoked. you were the one who used smoking as an analogy to begin with. and i knew someone would say something about 2nd hand smoke so thats why i used the words "direct and immediate threat" to other people's lives.

but dont you understand that just because you havent seen it happen, that doesnt at all mean that it will never happen? why be stubborn and risk your life and other people's lives?
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how old are you that you need to keep the car warmed up while filling up the tank, huh?

are you 75?....you're 22 years old, you can be in the cold for a little bit...that wont hurt you, you're a big boy...or not. like 2k2wannabe said, you're just being a smartas$.

you know what you can do?...you can leave the car in the "ON" position without the engine running, and then everything will work BUT the engine. so now you can have the luxury of having the heat still running and not risking it.
Old Nov 2, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Newman
i never said you smoked. you were the one who used smoking as an analogy to begin with. and i knew someone would say something about 2nd hand smoke so thats why i used the words "direct and immediate threat" to other people's lives.

but dont you understand that just because you havent seen it happen, that doesnt at all mean that it will never happen? why be stubborn and risk your life and other people's lives?
for your safety and other,why risk it?C'mon now it only take YOUR maybe three min.
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Originally Posted by 2001SE
how old are you that you need to keep the car warmed up while filling up the tank, huh?

are you 75?....you're 22 years old, you can be in the cold for a little bit...that wont hurt you, you're a big boy...or not. like 2k2wannabe said, you're just being a smartas$.
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Originally Posted by 2001SE
how old are you that you need to keep the car warmed up while filling up the tank, huh?

are you 75?....you're 22 years old, you can be in the cold for a little bit...that wont hurt you, you're a big boy...or not. like 2k2wannabe said, you're just being a smartas$.

you know what you can do?...you can leave the car in the "ON" position without the engine running, and then everything will work BUT the engine. so now you can have the luxury of having the heat still running and not risking it.
iam 21...yes i have a tight pu$$y...
i can't believe ppl are getting ****ed about this crap...
owell i am done with this thread
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