I have a 2003 Maxima se 6spd bone stock. I am going to mod my car pretty soon and I was wondering what kind of modification can i add to beat those 2000-2003 GT Mustangs (V-8 stock) .Im sick and tired of not being able to beat one of them on long runs. How much HP/TQ do 2000-2003 Mustangs GT have and what are they clocking from 0-60 and 1/4 mile.

 

you can beat one wtihout any mods just push your car and shift rite

 

As quoted from Car and Driver, the Ford mustangs have 260hp for the GT, and 265hp for the bulliet. The Cobra Mustangs was rated at 300hp but later on in 2000 they found that it wasn't making 300hp, it was more like 270hp. So they stop making the Cobra for a year.!!!!! The V6 mustangs have 200hp as well(nothing to worry about!!!). There you have it.!!!!!!!

Please correct me if I'am wrong!!!!!

And to make your car run with them you need a UDP, a frankencar intake (don't buy the injen, it don't make more hp and is not as loud.!!!!! My friend also have a 6speed max and says the samething.!!!!!!). Some H&R springs to level the car, and a Cattman cat-back Exh. And you should be good.

 

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And to make your car run with them you need a UDP, a frankencar intake (don't buy the injen, it don't make more hp and is not as loud.!!!!! My friend also have a 6speed max and says the samething.!!!!!!).QUOTE]


I have Injen, and recently just changed the original filter with K&N RR-3001 (inverted design), It get loud after 3500RPM, and quiet before. I didn't dyno my car for HP, but I feel the car pulling harder througout the RPM range(Compare to stock)

 

See below for an auto 00+ Mustang GT road test.


http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...&page_number=3

**Yawn**

Low 15's is nothing to write home about, especially in a rwd V8 muscle car. But, the stick GT will run mid 14's at 95 mph+, thus a 6spd Max is a worthy opponent, and it will come down to driver skill.

If the stick GT knows how to launch worth a s**t (300lb torque) stick Max will have to play catch-up.

FWIW, maj of auto GT Coupes and Verts run high 14's-low 15's 92-94 stock. Stick GT's run 14.2-14.7 93-98 stock. You will find very few bone stock GT's, auto or stick, so you may have your hands full if the Mustang is being driven by somebody fairly competent. Btw, all the times I posted above are my personal observations while at the track. In the last 4 years I've seen quite a few -hundreds- 281CID Vertical taillight GT Mustangs, both stick, auto, coupe and vert...

Mags tend to get mid 14's stick high 14's-low 15's auto.

The look on Mustang GT owners face when he gets beat to the finish line by a sports sedan - Priceless

Fernando.

 

I have Injen, and recently just changed the original filter with K&N RR-3001 (inverted design), It get loud after 3500RPM, and quiet before. I didn't dyno my car for HP, but I feel the car pulling harder througout the RPM range(Compare to stock)[/QUOTE]


Are you talking about the filter or the intake. My friend has sold the injen for the frankencar with the apexi. I think it's the sound and little power gain he has gotten that really makes him crazy.!!!!!!!

 

Ask him, did he actually get more power out of it or did he assume there was more power because it was louder?

As far as noise goes, of course the Frankencar will be louder. It's right inside the engine bay, so all the noise will reverberate throughout the engine bay.

In any case, the Apexi filter should filter and perform better than the "smaller" filter that comes with the Injen.

 

I used to have an 86' mustang lx 5speed(my first car modded ran 13.6's) which I bought from my friends older brother- This guy has bought/sold mustangs all his life (currently has a 93 Saleen convertble blown w/~500hp) and after driving my 6-speed he told be that the Max(was stock at the time) is faster(pulled harder up up top past 70+mph) than any stock gt/lx
he ever owned

 

Mustangs are known to have breathing problems at high rpms. Their strength is at low/ mid rpms. You may do a few mods to keep up but once they do a couple-they are in the 13s in the 1/4-easily.

 

The only car that may have more mods available than a Honda Civic

 

soundmike is right... it's louder so your friend probably thinks it *must* be faster!

the few dyno comparisons around here have shown a 1-3hp difference between injen and franken. There is no way he feels that difference.

 

99+ GT's with the 5 speed run low 14's to high 13's from the factory. If you would actually do a search on this subject, you'd notice the 5 million previous threads about this same issue...

Let me shed some light on this subject...

5 speed 99+ GT's are low 14-high 13 second cars dead stock. The car is capable of a best of 13.85 at 100 MPH in the 1/4 with full interior and spare/jack removed, on street tires.

5 speed 99+ GT's have ZERO breathing problems at high speed. Sure, they don't have a variable intake, but they do have two more cylinders and a pretty good capacity to rev. They easily flow 650+ CFM in the stock setup...

99+ GT's are rated from Ford at 260 HP at 5250 RPM and 302 TQ at 4000 RPM. Does that number 5250 RPM ring a bell? Thats where the TQ/HP curves cross, meaning the GT has 260 TQ at 5250 RPM...hence, no upper end breathing or acceleration problems...

The Curb weight of the Premium GT (heaviest of the GT coupes) is 3347. That's only about 100 pounds or so heavier than our cars, but the RWD dynamics of the GT and TQ numbers (and area under the curve) negate any weight advantage that we have over the GT. Their engine is not as peaky as ours (even though our V6 is one of the less peaky V6's out there)...

As proven over and over again here (check the 1/4 forum), stock 6 speed 02+ Maximas TYPICALLY run mid 14's stock, and maybe dip into the 14.3's with a gutted interior/removed spare/jack etc...

Automatic 02+ Maximas have run a best of 14.66 (as far as I can recall/research here on the .org) in the 1/4

So in the end, the GT 5 speed is faster car vs. car. The difference is, as always, with the driver. Please let this end the debates...

PS, I have videos proving the stock 99+ GT's run upper 13's and low 14's...last time I went out with my auto club (over half have modern GT's), the worst run I saw by a 5 speed was 14.2...

 

You wanna run with one? Buy one. Simple

 

Are you talking about the filter or the intake. My friend has sold the injen for the frankencar with the apexi. I think it's the sound and little power gain he has gotten that really makes him crazy.!!!!!!! [/QUOTE]

I switched from Frankencar to injen and I think my car performs better. Plus I was tired of the minor issues I kept having with the frankencar brackets and such.

 

 

By the way, mag racing sucks. Whoever is writing the check (and how much is on the line) is how the mags usually rate the cars they are testing...

 

That 14.66 was me The stang is a more capable car because its got that V8. To be able to compare our V6 cars with 1.1 liters less displacement is pretty impressive isnt it? True, a very good driver in a 5 speed stang should beat out a 6 speed Max by a little. It does depend a lot on the driver though. I've had a run with a stock (I assume) GT mustang, 2002 I believe, and we were basically dead even to about 75 where we shut it down. He wasnt a real good driver though, it was some kid and his buddy. But I wouldnt feel too bad about being beat by a stang, they are made to be faster cars

 

15.1@93mph for a 99+ auto GT is **** slow. Most auto GT hardtops are good for 14.4-14.5@95-96mph. Unlike the GT/LX autos of the past, the 99+ autos give up very little to the 5 speeds. I've been walked by 99+ GT autos with very few bolt-ons and look at my trap speed. What's tell you? The 99+ GTs have some ***** up top.


Dave

 

Some of you make Injen sound like the worest intake there ever was, and Frankencar is like the "Boss" of all intakes for Maxima.

I don't have Frankencar, but heard lots of good things about it.

I have Injen in my car and I can honestly say its better than stock.

Some facts I've read on .org.

-FrankenCar will gain more top end HP, but lose some low end torque
-Injen gain low end and midrange power, but doesn't gain as much top end as Frankencar.

As far is Injen being a CAI (It depends on what you personally think), I could hook up a temp sensor in the intake and get a reading of the temp, but I don't have the equipment. Maybe someone can do this and varify for everyone if Injen its a CAI or not.

 

hmmm but how would an 03 max with a supercharger compare

 

well there is no blower for the 02/03 max at the moment. Superchargers put ya in a whole new ballpark

 

Ok guys, I'am not trying to p!ss everyone off with me and my friends opinion. Everyone knows a maxima is a decent car that can run with the best of them, four door or a two door, I4, V6, and some V8.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It all come down to what you like, and even more important, what you paid for.!!!!!!! Now let it be peace!!!!!!!!!!

PS
I think both intake are good just that I think my friend loves the sound.!!!!!!!! At lease he's still happy. That count's also.!!!!!!!!

 

I respect that.!!!!!

 

Everything he wrote is 110% correct. Hell, even bolt-on automatics are in the 13's easily. A buddy of mine runs 13.8 @ 100mph with shift kit & catback exhaust in his 01 GT Automatic. My dad's 00 GT 5 speed has run 14.2 @ 98mph with a crappy *** 2.25 60' and spinning more than desired on the 1-2 shift.

BTW his also put down 235rwhp/282rwtq with only the intake silencer removed.