22mm offset with spacers.
#1
22mm offset with spacers.
Hi, my wheels are 47mm offset with 7.5" width. I am planning on getting 25mm H&R spacers. At this thickness I can get DRM series (the kind you bolt on) and don't have to worry about getting the existing studs out. So do you guys think these will be okay under these circumstances? I did some crude measurement and it seems to be okay in the back. But the front seems a bit iffy.
And another thing is that it seems like DRM series will hold up much better compared to other series. So if possible I want to use these.
And another thing is that it seems like DRM series will hold up much better compared to other series. So if possible I want to use these.
#3
Originally Posted by Triple8Sol
You should ask Galo...he seems to be the resident spacers expert
HK...I think 25mm is a wee bit too much for the fronts...remember, the Max has just a tad under one inch less track in the rear than in the front so ideally, you'll wanna have about a 10mm delta front-to-rear (in your case, prolly a 15mm spacer in the front) to equalize how the tires look versus the fenders.
On the subject of spacers, my custom 12mm spacers are on the car, a perfect, dead-nuts on, lovely fit. They look awesome, the rears are now exactly equal to the fronts...well worth the pain & moolah. I took pics (film, not digital) which I will find a way to post somewhere this weekend so u guys can see these cool parts.
Now all we need is a GD so the shop can run a bunch of them with different centric ring/lip sizes while holding the cost down to a reasonable (<$100 a set) level....
#4
Originally Posted by Galo
I think I'll take that as a compliment....LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
HK...I think 25mm is a wee bit too much for the fronts...remember, the Max has just a tad under one inch less track in the rear than in the front so ideally, you'll wanna have about a 10mm delta front-to-rear (in your case, prolly a 15mm spacer in the front) to equalize how the tires look versus the fenders.
On the subject of spacers, my custom 12mm spacers are on the car, a perfect, dead-nuts on, lovely fit. They look awesome, the rears are now exactly equal to the fronts...well worth the pain & moolah. I took pics (film, not digital) which I will find a way to post somewhere this weekend so u guys can see these cool parts.
Now all we need is a GD so the shop can run a bunch of them with different centric ring/lip sizes while holding the cost down to a reasonable (<$100 a set) level....
HK...I think 25mm is a wee bit too much for the fronts...remember, the Max has just a tad under one inch less track in the rear than in the front so ideally, you'll wanna have about a 10mm delta front-to-rear (in your case, prolly a 15mm spacer in the front) to equalize how the tires look versus the fenders.
On the subject of spacers, my custom 12mm spacers are on the car, a perfect, dead-nuts on, lovely fit. They look awesome, the rears are now exactly equal to the fronts...well worth the pain & moolah. I took pics (film, not digital) which I will find a way to post somewhere this weekend so u guys can see these cool parts.
Now all we need is a GD so the shop can run a bunch of them with different centric ring/lip sizes while holding the cost down to a reasonable (<$100 a set) level....
I am at this again
I figured 15mm would be ideal, but these are backordered all over the place. And I feel more secure using DRM series. They just seem to get installed more securely than DRS series.
I guess I'll order a pair of 25mm ones first and see if they will be okay in the front. I'm sure they will be fine in the back.
Thanks Galo! of spacers
#5
I just installed 5mm front 15mm rear H&R spacers. I think its nearly perfect. I have 45mm offset wheels btw. I know that 25mm up front is too much. It will look like the wheels stick out I think. I'd suggest the 10-15 like Galo said. I think you could even go as high as 30+ mm spacers in the back. I know of a guy on this board running a 18 offset in the rear with 19s and a drop!!!
#6
Originally Posted by Hamy
I just installed 5mm front 15mm rear H&R spacers. I think its nearly perfect. I have 45mm offset wheels btw. I know that 25mm up front is too much. It will look like the wheels stick out I think. I'd suggest the 10-15 like Galo said. I think you could even go as high as 30+ mm spacers in the back. I know of a guy on this board running a 18 offset in the rear with 19s and a drop!!!
Hamy..where in the *&^%$$#^$ did you find the 15mm H&R spacers?? These things have been on national backorder since March of this year...where did u find them?????
#7
Originally Posted by Galo
Hamy..where in the *&^%$$#^$ did you find the 15mm H&R spacers?? These things have been on national backorder since March of this year...where did u find them?????
#8
I think that 5mm upfront won't do much. I think I'll need at least 15mm. But these are back ordered everywhere. How about 20mm?
And to install these DRS series. How much effort and time does it take? Is it more involved than installing struts and springs? Any special tools needed?
Thanks!
And to install these DRS series. How much effort and time does it take? Is it more involved than installing struts and springs? Any special tools needed?
Thanks!
#11
LOL everything you guys are saying is foreign speak to me...
My wheels are 38mm in a 7.5
What size spacers would I need front and rear, so that they wont stick out but have that nice filling look in the wells?
My wheels are 38mm in a 7.5
What size spacers would I need front and rear, so that they wont stick out but have that nice filling look in the wells?
#12
Originally Posted by asu174
You should be fine with 25mm spacers up front. That will essentially make your wheels exactly 8.5" wide.
25mm= 1 inch.
25mm= 1 inch.
#14
Woah! Your wheels are a 47mm offset? I think 25-30 in the front and 30-35 in the rear would actually work. Could be wrong......
PhxBlue, I would say 25mm in the front and rear would work. That would essentially give you the exact same stance that I have. Your wheels will look like 8.5" wide wheels with a 38mm offset.
PhxBlue, I would say 25mm in the front and rear would work. That would essentially give you the exact same stance that I have. Your wheels will look like 8.5" wide wheels with a 38mm offset.
#15
Originally Posted by PhxBlue
LOL everything you guys are saying is foreign speak to me...
My wheels are 38mm in a 7.5
What size spacers would I need front and rear, so that they wont stick out but have that nice filling look in the wells?
My wheels are 38mm in a 7.5
What size spacers would I need front and rear, so that they wont stick out but have that nice filling look in the wells?
#16
Originally Posted by asu174
Woah! Your wheels are a 47mm offset? I think 25-30 in the front and 30-35 in the rear would actually work. Could be wrong......
PhxBlue, I would say 25mm in the front and rear would work. That would essentially give you the exact same stance that I have. Your wheels will look like 8.5" wide wheels with a 38mm offset.
PhxBlue, I would say 25mm in the front and rear would work. That would essentially give you the exact same stance that I have. Your wheels will look like 8.5" wide wheels with a 38mm offset.
They don't make 35mm ones do they? I think I'll try 25mm ones first all around.
#18
Originally Posted by asu174
25mm will look pretty good. I'm not sure what sizes they make. I bought 8.5" wide wheels so I don't have to worry about spacers.
#19
IMHO nice thread.
I would just add that my $.02 in that 30-35 should be the lowest for the front.
This is a FWD Mac strut vehicle. And the strut is asked to do nealy everything short of curing cancer. Too little offset puts a huge load on the bearings and a huge side load on the strut.
I would just add that my $.02 in that 30-35 should be the lowest for the front.
This is a FWD Mac strut vehicle. And the strut is asked to do nealy everything short of curing cancer. Too little offset puts a huge load on the bearings and a huge side load on the strut.
#20
Originally Posted by Galo
Hamy..where in the *&^%$$#^$ did you find the 15mm H&R spacers?? These things have been on national backorder since March of this year...where did u find them?????
#21
Originally Posted by Mick Max
IMHO nice thread.
I would just add that my $.02 in that 30-35 should be the lowest for the front.
This is a FWD Mac strut vehicle. And the strut is asked to do nealy everything short of curing cancer. Too little offset puts a huge load on the bearings and a huge side load on the strut.
I would just add that my $.02 in that 30-35 should be the lowest for the front.
This is a FWD Mac strut vehicle. And the strut is asked to do nealy everything short of curing cancer. Too little offset puts a huge load on the bearings and a huge side load on the strut.
It would be nice if there was 15mm ones available. I think these would be perfect for the front. These have been national back order for quite some time. H&R is really crazy not making these.
So you think the rear will be fine with 25mm spacers, effectly making 22mm offset? What do you think of putting 20mm ones up front? This will give me 27mm offset effectively.
Thanks!
#24
Originally Posted by HKMax
Yea, I thought 25mm would be bit much. But, I seem to fail to see how low offset can cause huge stress on struts and bearings.
It would be nice if there was 15mm ones available. I think these would be perfect for the front. These have been national back order for quite some time. H&R is really crazy not making these.
So you think the rear will be fine with 25mm spacers, effectly making 22mm offset? What do you think of putting 20mm ones up front? This will give me 27mm offset effectively.
Thanks!
It would be nice if there was 15mm ones available. I think these would be perfect for the front. These have been national back order for quite some time. H&R is really crazy not making these.
So you think the rear will be fine with 25mm spacers, effectly making 22mm offset? What do you think of putting 20mm ones up front? This will give me 27mm offset effectively.
Thanks!
Realistically speaking, you should be fine.
#25
Thanks asu174.
Now the question is do I go with 25mm all around or 20mm upfront and 25mm for the back? Is there benefit of reducing that delta between front track and rear track? One big plus for 25mm ones is that they are DRM types. No need to bang the studs out.
Now the question is do I go with 25mm all around or 20mm upfront and 25mm for the back? Is there benefit of reducing that delta between front track and rear track? One big plus for 25mm ones is that they are DRM types. No need to bang the studs out.
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