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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Pics of Fog Light replacements are up!

Posted how I changed the fogs for new driving lights yesterday, and finally I got some half decent pictures of them. Here we go:


Old Jan 7, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Looks good~
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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Nice setup you got there, do you still happen to have your stock fogs?
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 06:54 PM
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That looks awesome! The blue fogs go good with the white grill.
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Still got the stock fogs, gonna keep them tho incase one of the new ones bites the dust (or gets a highway rock tossed inside it).
I had a hard time getting the digital camera to capture the lights the way they appear in reality too. They match the HID's almost perfectly.
I'm undecided on whether or not I like the look of that blueish casing in daylight tho... I guess its kinda cool, but I dunno. Might end up swapping for a pair of clear ones. Lemme know what ya'll think
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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looks real good man! almost like HID
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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I jsut wish there were aftermarket fogs that fit the stock openings perfectly. Those look nice in the dark, but I wonder if that blue color in the day will cause you some hassle?
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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I dont think the blue color will cause hassle. There are tons of cars that have colored lights, mine look just like HIDs when on, compared to some other things I've seen, like purple headlights, green corning lights, white blinkers, etc etc etc, I'm not too worries. However, I guess the blue isnt completely legal huh? Hopefully the cops wont be jerks about it. Oh well, they work so much better than stock lights.

I too wish they were bigger tho, fill up the whole gap. You dont notice it from 15+ feet away, looks fine cause its all shadow like, but up closer than that, the gap is kinda fugly. Its too bad they dont make the lights like 1 more inch....
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Is the light bluish at all? I have 7000k HIDs and I can't match the fogs. Also, how much, what type, etc, etc....
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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yeah what name brand size etc...
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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Ive always wondered what those would look like on a Max..only thing I dislike is the color of the lens (blue)..nice setup though
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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do they come with clear lenses?name/brand?

BTW it looks hot on your white Max!
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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The brand is Navigator, and the lights are called Cyber White driving lamps. Make note that the color is partially due to my Xenon bulbs that I previously had in my stock fog lights, those match the HID's real well anyways,and in these driving lights its even better. As far as blue light, as I said before its very similar to the stock HID color in person. Slightly less blue, but very slightly. Your 7000k lights emit more of a purple color tho, dont they? I'm not exactly sure, but I thought as you got higher up the k numbers, the light went from blue to more purple.
Oh and I bought these at Walmart, dont know if I mentioned that in this post, but just incase, thats where they came from. $20 less than the same or very similar lights cost at Pep Boys
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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This picture is pretty accurate as to what the color of light emitted is.
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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Well, it appears as though I will never turn my fog light on again. I can't get anything to match.

Oh well, those look good- even with the blue lenses.
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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bigd,

what happened to your jcwhitney xenon white light bulbs?


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Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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Those JCWhitney bulbs just got put right into the new driving lights. Still got those things hangin around...
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 09:44 PM
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dude, I suggest you buy some of that clear Xpel stuff for those fogs b/c a couple of highway trips will most definitely break the front glass part. It's happened to me on 2 sets of these (one on my prev. car).
Old Jan 7, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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its lookin good !!!! however most importantly, hows the beam pattern???
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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Good suggestion with the clear coat stuff, I might hafta pick some of that up

THe beam pattern is a relativly flat line projected straight out. THere is some side lighting as well, significantly more than the regular headlights do. The lights would benefit from a higher wattage bulb, but I'm not gonna take the risk of burning a wiring harness.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 04:03 AM
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looks great
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by asu174
Is the light bluish at all? I have 7000k HIDs and I can't match the fogs. Also, how much, what type, etc, etc....

On ebay look at the super blue or something like that. The are for the Asia market but they claim they are 8000k. Ive never seen them in person so I dont know how they look.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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Can you post a pic of the beam pattern? Fogs only.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Not quite sure how I'd get the beam pattern, but I can try... might be a couple days, I'm away from home and dont have my digital camera.
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While he gets pics, these are driving lamps so the beam pattern will look approximately like this:

It's pretty accurate as both of my cars that had these matched the above description.

For those willing to deal w/the gap & want the IS look, the same co. also makes fog lamps which are pretty yellow. At places like Pepboys they go under the Blazertech 2200 name for around $60, but I'm sure Walmart probs. has their version for about ~$20 cheaper. Fog beam pattern per PIAA:


More info on beam patterns here
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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the top one is like my driving lights, they spread out a little more to the side as well too, but they are projected in a fairly thin line that I aimed to be right at road level
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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holy wheel gap

p.s. lights look good
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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so what's the diameter of those driving lights?
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
Not quite sure how I'd get the beam pattern, but I can try... might be a couple days, I'm away from home and dont have my digital camera.
If you have your fogs rewired (they turn on with the clearance lights) then it is easy. Open sunroof and stand in car and take picture of beam pattern at night on flat straight road/parking lot/driveway.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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where did you purchase the fog light? I want to buy one pair of it, but I don't know which one to buy
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by nissan5788
Is that the stock fog assembly? I thought the fogs were larger than 4 inches.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdo26
The brand is Navigator, and the lights are called Cyber White driving lamps. Make note that the color is partially due to my Xenon bulbs that I previously had in my stock fog lights, those match the HID's real well anyways,and in these driving lights its even better. As far as blue light, as I said before its very similar to the stock HID color in person. Slightly less blue, but very slightly. Your 7000k lights emit more of a purple color tho, dont they? I'm not exactly sure, but I thought as you got higher up the k numbers, the light went from blue to more purple.
Oh and I bought these at Walmart, dont know if I mentioned that in this post, but just incase, thats where they came from. $20 less than the same or very similar lights cost at Pep Boys
i saw those at walmart last night. how easy are those to install? how long does it take?
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Lumbee1, that pic is the dimensions of the driving lights bigdo26 installed. Stock fogs are larger than 4".

Slick, when I installed them, I just cut out a round piece of plexi, drilled 2 holes (top + bottom) and attached the fog bracket to the plexi w/another 2 holes + screws. The top & bottom holes allowed me to mount them using the stock holes in the fog openings so there was no modification to the car itself at all. Start to fin. should only take about 2 hours this way as there's no wiring to do, just use the stock stuff.

I wonder how bigdo26 installed them though, cutting that plexi was a pain in the a$$.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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Lexan is easy to work with.

Great idea mounting new driving lights on Plexi and using stock mount positions
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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The blue looks ricey, but it's nice at night. Pretty good fitment too. Why does your car looks so high?
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Car is parked on an incline so the wheel gap is a bit large.... I installed them just be screwing the mounting brackets into the opening for the fogs, it was fairly easy. I'll probly re-install them using another method eventually.

I agree, the blue is a lil rice like, but it looks ok in person and my gf hasnt noticed them yet, so they cant stick out that much They look awsome at night too, so that makes it worth it
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:14 AM
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you can get away with the blue because the color of your max- when I had Luminix Ionic blue film on my fogs it looked on my black car- since black looks better with sharp contrast- so i try to stay clear

this film did give 100% match to my hids though...
but after ~ 2 months it began to show burn marks
from the heat of the bulbs..



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