1BADMAX

Ok, today I'm traveling home from work, now up ahead I see an Audi S4. I think nothing of it and just go about my business as usual. Now the ride home goes through about 18 miles of wooded area, where the speed limit is 55 mph, but most people go around 65-70mph. Of course me and the Audi are shooting past everybody who's going slower than 65. I guess for some reason this guy thinks I'm trying to race him, because when we get to the end of the woods and the lanes turn from one to two he gets over to the far right lane and gets next to me as if to challenge me. Anyway, about a mile up the road is the entrance to the highway, so he see's that I'm going to get on and he proceeds to follow me. So we get on the highway and I punch it in second and go to about a 130mph, then we approach traffic and slow down. But, the weird thing is that he never gained not one bit on me. I started out with a 3 car lead and held until then. Now, I know these things are fast, but was this guy just playing with me or is it possible I really ran with an Audi S4. Anyway, what I should be worrying about is why I'm an idiot by putting my life and everybody elses life in danger. But, I guess what's done is done. Just learn from your mistakes. Thanks for listening and please don't do what I did.

Jeff92se

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Interesting. You guys have about the same listed hp. 260ish hp? He has more torque but it's not as important when moving. Is it the rumor that most of the 3.5 vqs are about the same hp? Just listed differently by Nissan? ie.. 350z 280hp/G35 sedan 270hp/03max 260hp/04max 2xx hp??

bigdo26

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he was only tryin if he didnt have the S4 with the V8. That version puts out 340 horse and will eat you. The turbo S4's put out around 250 horse, unmodded of course, and would be a decent match for the 3.5

† ErV †

well that doesn't make sense. was it an old one since the new models will kill you and then bury you...

http://www.audiusa.com/features_spec...00405_,00.html

even if he doesn't gain, his speed governor is way higher then ours so it will simply keep on going.

1BADMAX

It was a pre V8 version. It was black with a S4 symbol on the left hand side and it had had twin pipes coming out the left side.

joebangaa

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come one this is ludacris, he'd still rape... 0-60 in 5.5 and 1/4 in like 14.0~1?? yeah, that's ownage, you were just already ahead... I tried racing this guy from my school who had an autotragic s4 and thought i had a chance. his as s still kinda walked me..

Jeff92se

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Those things run killer 0-60/1/4 mile times partly because of it's launch aka awd system. No advantage when running from a roll.

MannyNJ2k2max

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a close friend of mine has alast gen S4 6spd(bone stock) and our cars pull equally.....so a 6spd Max can hang with one fo sho!

GuZo

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I don't know why there are some people on this board who can't stand to believe that our 02-03's can keep with previous gen S4's or previous gen M3's, stock to stock of course.

DrVolkl

Makes perfect sense. The AWD system takes a lot of power out of the wheels at speed...that and the car is heavier. From a standstill, they'll run away, but once up to speed, they have no advantage unless they're modded.

Ever raced a WRX? They're slow when they're moving but from a stop light they're tough.

bigdo26

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ya the low 0-60 and 1/4 times are due to the AWD. Our Maximas hit 60 in 6 seconds or less if driven real well (6 speed). On a roll, same power basically

1BADMAX

Well, I hit a 14.3@98 in my car and that was with a real ****ty launch. So, I'm pretty confident that I can keep up with an S4. Now if I said that I beat him in the top end I would be crazy. I can't wait until I get the Hotshot headers and TS ecu. Then, I think I can pull on one of those cars.

packetattack

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Yeah, until he decides to chip it (APR) or other tuning chip. Adds about 60-80hp to the S4. With an exhaust and chip they can make 300+ HP. Not to mention the handling on an S4 is way better than my floaty 4th. gen max. I've driven my friend's, its definitely a sleeper car, running low to mid 13s.

And yes, the quattro will own you from a launch

K1maxima02

S4 is pretty fast. alot of my friends with VW said that old S4 is better than new S4 because old S4 has turbo and can boost alot. Once they put APR chip in those baby and you are going get

4DRSpeed

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My older brother owns one. He says its fast, but its not as quick as you think it would be. There are guys that are unbelieveable drivers that pulled a 13.8 bone stock. The car weighs 3700lbs I believe with 260HP. It's hard to undersatnd how they pulled it off, but I guess everything was just right that day.

I told my brother that a '02/'03 Maxima 6-Spd could probably keep up, or maybe even haul by him. And he agreed. They are very nice cars, that are fairly quick, but if you ever meet one with a chip, I wish you major luck.

bigdo26

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an older S4, the turbo version, is easily modded by the chip. definatly a fast car when a bit of extra money is put into it. But if I got owned by one, its ok. I dont mind. Someday when I turbofy my Max, things will be different

1BADMAX

Oh yes, turbocharge the Maxima and things will be different indeed.

6spmax

I'd rather keep the extra $15,000+ in my pocket than totally own an S4 TT.

maxS

no offence, but my e36 m3 was defenatly faster then my maxima... tenth of seconds in difference, but it feels anyway. I like maxima, but for different reasons; they are just not the same kind of cars.

Quicksilver

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Even the E30 M3 could do the 1/4 right at 15 seconds at 91-92 MPH, and 0-60 in the 6.5 second range. The E36 M3 was 0-60 in 5.7-5.6 seconds and does the 1/4 in 14.4's-14.3's...

But from a roll...I think it's quite possible to be even with them...

NT2SHBBY

I've already commented on this car in the past. My first week of owning my maxima I had a race with one on the local expressway and I KILLED him.....bish never saw it coming.

CoolMax

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I believe it.

I'll pick a stock 6-speed Max over a stock 6-speed S4 on the roll almost anyday: Big displacement V6 vs. small displacement v6 with turbos that need to spool up, light FWD car vs. heavy car with AWD,...
Although we don't know whether the S4 was auto/manual or stock/modded; also consider that the Max in this scenario has some nice mods.
This is why I don't believe street racing can determine which is absolutley the fastest car.

joebangaa

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i really don't know why all of you are sooo confident. I've lost to a wrx off the line but kept up fine on the freeway. But when it comes to s4...even stock for stock, they'll still own. Correct me if I'm wrong but we odn't have 255hp. NOR do we have the torque to match up to the 250 the audi has. only if you were a 6spd MODDED against an auto s4 that was maybe pushing it would you guys win. otherwise....the guy did pay an extra 15k for something (not worth teh whole 15 but you guys know what i mean). you guys also said an automagic max could hang with an auto 350z...WRONG. my buddy has an auto 350z and blasted me in every condition.

xosder

Stock on stock from a standstill is pretty close with the s4 by a little bit. From a roll its almost a dead heat. S4 modified vs. a max modified would be a joke. The S4 would smoke us.

CoolMax

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2002 Audi S4:

250hp @ 5800rpm/258tq @ 1850rpm

~3593lbs

2002 Nissan Maxima SE

255hp @ 5800rpm/246tq @ 4400rpm

~3224lbs

So you can see that the S4 doesn't have oodle of more torque, but it weighs nearly ~400lbs more.

Quicksilver

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Audi S4 (2.7L TT) has 258 tq at 1850 RPM

The 02-03 Maxima has 260-265 at 4400 RPM (IIRC)

bigdo26

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our torque is underrated, but that means very little from a roll. wish I had a video of the 2.7T Audi that was running at the track when I went once. He screamed off the line (AWD) but only trapped around 92 or so

Mass_Media

I beat a WRX off the line.....ofcourse she had here brother in it and she didn't know how to launch or shift and it was a wagon but I still tell people I beat a WRX.....I did after all.

6spmax

Is the e36 the M3 prior to the current one? If it is, I raced a modded one a few months back. We were on an open 55 MPH road that had stoplights. Five 0-80 MPH runs were dead even.

mjk

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if u got a 6-speed then u could take him. they do 14.5 at the strip. a little lower if they rape their clutch at the launch

Dany

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Same experience I had with S4. i ran one on the highway a while back and
I pulled a bit on him. S4 is a nice car but 6-speed Max can run with them for sure.

GuZo

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I am not too sure. Many of our 6 speed members have ran 14.4's thru 14.8's and it seems that the E36 M3's do around the same thing. People always say they're faster but from what I've seen and raced, they're an even match. I've raced two from highway rolls and it was even.

5thgen2nr

I agree.....the US-spec E36 M3's are rated at a stock 240 hp. maximas have 255. I believe they weigh in the same vicinity of eachother as well.

maxS

yes, it is. I really like maxima but again... these are really different cars. Stock to stock, maxima has become more of a highway cruiser (since times of 3rd gen), something like a q45, where M3 is a performance-oriented car... There simply is a list of things to be modified on a maxima just to get it to the level of a stock M3... And that list is just too long. It'a a shame that Nissan could't do right the suspension, brakes and such on its best thing in u.s. If just they could think right and get the 6th gen maxima based on something like M45 with a v8 and a rwd (what i really hoped for a year ago) then it would be my next car again...

maxS

but those are real 240 hp; besides, as some say different car mnfcturers use different horses to measure the output
as we all know maximas do not have those 255
and nissan keeps playing the numbers with their vq35s hps.
e36 2-door is 3,175 lb; better gearing too!

2k3TitaniumSe

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Yeah, those VW products are crazy when they are chipped. My cousin has a chipped Jetta 1.8T and its fast but not as fat as my Maxima!

2k3TitaniumSe

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And those chips add about 55hp and 80lb/ft torque!