does an intake system actually give you. And is it worth it to put it into an automatic. Does it make a difference?

 

ppl tell you it will give u all different #'s...truth be told u prolly gain maybe 1 hp...the engine sounds beefier and it revs quicker....

airflow definitely flows better

 

Stock airbox is better for automatic or cold air intake. You can get them for $60 shipped on e-bay which is very cheap. They add about 5 hp but with more mods maybe 10.

 

Look at some of the manufacturer's sites. Most list dyno's they've performed. You question(s) can easily be answered with a little searching.

www.berktechnology.com/
www.frankencar.com
www.injen.com/
www.aempower.com/

 

gd for injen is going on now, $200

 

you can definitely feel a difference with an intake whether it be short ram or cold air...revs are quicker..engine sounds much nicer and louder...

 

to be honest with u the engine def does not rev quicker.....a cold air intake reduces ur low end a loti on my opinion....but at higher revs u can feel it...but if ur stopped and u floor it u dont have as much power as u do with the stock air box....just how it feels to me... i bought the injen basically for sound....

 

company dynos of their own products IMO are biased and somewhat unaccurate. Just look at the injen dynos for example.

a member awhile back dyno'ed every single intake out for his 5th gen (injen, frankencar, PR cold air, ghetto airbox). And guess what? The ghetto modified stock airbox made the most power. For awhile bluyu2k2 was running that also

 

Frankencar makes it feel faster but I like the sound more.

 

yea i got a 2k1 automatic and i just placed an order for an injen CAI on the group deal came out too 223 shipped it gives you about 2 or 3 hp but than more mods will give you more hp and it sounds awesome

 

My dyno's showed a 6hp increase with the FrankenCar on with the K&N filter. I now have the Apexi filter and switched to the Berk. There is really no difference between the Berk and FrankenCar performance wise, but aestetically the Berk is superior.

 

I've had the Injen intake for almost 6 months now. It does allow the engine to rev quicker, but I don't think it's worth it considering how much low end power you lose. I've gone between the stock box and the Injen several times within the last 6 months. The Injen is better with other mods, but the low end is still really weak.

 

50hp...


add some stickers and you are good for another 15.

 

me too

 

if your goin for performance go with BERK..
there is a GD on it right now.. and its lighter and better constructed than Frankencar
and it will add about 5 hp... on a aut..

 

berk?? is better than Injen??

 

yes performance wise BERK is better than Injen CAI...
5th gens tend to loose low end power with the Ingen CAI..
BERK gives a good all around gain... 6 hp to be exact...
moreover, BERK is cheaper and lighter than any intake out there...
but if your going for all show and less go.. injen would be nice

 

but isnt berk a reg intake and injen is Cold air

 

For the last time........
Look at the location of the filter on the Injen....STOP calling it a CAI ! It is NOT ! The only true CAI is the Place Racing/ Cattman......thats it. Injen is the biggest rip off in the world. You will get same if not better gains from the short ram, Berk/ Frankencar.......

You cant have a filter sitting behind the radiator, and call it a CAI.

 

Like Kloogy said, Injen isn't a true CAI only the Place Racing is. It's been dynoed to death and while too close to be noticeable, the FrankenCar and Berk intakes outperform all other Intakes available for 5th Gen Maxima's. Not only does the Injen's filter sit behind the radiator, it runs too close to the engine, and it's piping get's very warm. You will notice that the FrankenCar and Berk midpipe stay cool.

 

One more tidbit. I think Scopium accidentally mixed things up. Generally the Injen gives better low end gains while FrankenCar/Berk give better high end gains. If you add the midpipe to the FrankenCar or Berk the low end loss seems to disappear.

 

no injen takes away low end!!, does Berk have a good sound too it??

 

thats what i was tryin go say Virus.. thanks for clearing things up.. and kloogy.. I KNOW that injen is not a CAI .. but thats why Injen calls it...
and PearlWhtMax2000.. BERK has a excellent sound to it.. no sound at cruising ... but once you floor it it gives a nice deep growll.....

 

DAMN!!!! i was going to get injen but now im thinking to get berk! i have like 2 more days to decide, untill the gd's end. any suggestions??

 

The Berk is the better all around intake considering price/performance/looks. The FrankenCar is well, pretty ugly or for a better word, plain looking. The Berk has a nice polished shine. The Injen without a doubt looks the best of them all. The Berk intake or FrankenCar both sound pretty harsh around redline. They are quiet as stock until around 4k rpms when it breaks loose and sounds incredible. The Injen sounds very nice, but it doesn't sound as throaty or as loud in the upper rpm range. Make sure to get the Apexi filter on the Berk.

 

ok.... if your goin performance/price forget injen

now BERK and Frankencar
Frankencar has terrible cust. service.. and it takes forever to get your intake and its expensive
and the midpie is heavy..

BERK.. i personally know the owner Bryan
i got my intake with in 2 days.
the midpipe is as light at a pencile...you can either get the K&N or the apexi ( a little more $)

the install is simple and it looks nice...

so i would go with BERK...

 

Go Berk......you wont regret it.....

 

one thing that is kinda ghetto that I did to keep the pipe between the TB and the filter cool is to wrap it in heat-reflective tape.....looks like aluminum foil, but does the job.

 

hard to imagine intake gained alot of whp by itself, but combined with y-pipe and others it will do better

 

yeah i ordered a y-pipe. see thething is i dont want to lose the low end power, but i really like the way the injen looks. but if berk is better for performance than i guess i gatta go with berk. plus i can get the ingen for 225, and bek for 100 so i can save some money. thanx guys.

 

Is the midpipe the only difference between the Berk and the Frankencar? If I swapped the Frankencar midpipe for the Berk midpipe would my Frankencar be transformed into a Berk?

 

I've been running withthe Berk for over a year, my bott dyno tell me I didn't loose anything, and with the Mid-Pipe on since saturday, I have the feeling that between 2500-6000+rpm the engine seems stronger, again it's my bott dyno and it is not SAE corrected. Lol...

AA

 

one last question befor i make the final decision, which one sounds better berk or injen??

 

yes if you change your midpipes you should be fine..
pearlwthmax2000
of course injen is gonna sound better since there is more pipin and the air echo.. but again..
injen is for looks.. berk has good looks but better gains..

 

ok thanx alot. i am ordering the BERK intake i should get the apexi filter right?? is that the best one? or kn

 

both filters are good filters.. depends on your preferance i like K&N...(wet filter)
apexi is a dry filter and its "virtually" maintenance free..

whatever u like.. they both work fine
i also like k&n cause its bigger

 

ok thanx alot

 

Other than looks and weight, they are the exact same intakes.

 

When you hit the high 3k rpms, your car feels like a turbo kicks in with the midpipe. However, all of my dyno's show an even steady rise throughout the band and no spikes at the 4k mark. Funny.

 

Since FC is getting dogged here in favor of Berk (which obviously has its advantages)....i'll add in my 2 cents:
1. I love my frankencar
2. I have had NO problems with customer service, and delivery was pretty quick
3. Sounds great
4. The weight of the Berk is less, no doubt. But it is not a significant difference in the grand scheme of things. Not like the FC is made of lead or something....
5. Say all you want about looks, I like the way the red Franken intake looks.....each to his own.
6. The FC seems to have given me good gains in higher rpms and at highway speeds...and possibly a little loss in real low-end pull. I love the sound of it above about 4k rpms....

Get what you want, they are all good products...each has potential pros and cons, but mostly just pro's