I used the search and did not find any results. The April 2001 edition of Motor Trend (pg. 151)claims a 6 cyl. 99 3.0L Camry with an auto tranny can beat a 2000 3.0L Maxima GXE auto by one tenth of a second. The Max GXE weighs 3235 lbs. with an auto tranny and the Camry 3296 lbs. with the auto tranny. Also the Camry is touting 194hp and 205 ft/lbs. of torque vs. the Max with 222hp and 217 ft/lbs. of torque. Somethings wrong?

 

are u suree u didnt read wrong?? the v6 camry has 195 hp..... the I4 has like uhh 140 sumthin i belive..umm the v6 max will stomp the I4 camry.... =)
james

 

It is the V6. But still even that is hard to beleive.

 

Nice Catch!!

 

haha

 

yeah my girlfriend for fun raced against me at the track and i dusted her really really bad so i know for a fact that camry's are slow pieces of **** even fixed up ones she has a new 2000 v6 it really sucks really bad!!!!!!!!

 

Sorry to ruin your fun for the people who posted earlier saying that the Camry is a slow POS, but Camry V6's are just as fast as a Maxima. Peak torque means nothing unless you have a really flat torque curve which the Camry has. Plus, the Camry has a better and quicker shifting automatic. Just remember that times are from standing start. In the 1/4 mile, the Maxima will reach there the same time as the Camry, but with a higher trap speed.

I've never raced a Camry with my car, But I've beaten a few cars with my mothers 96 V6 Camry. That car has alot of midrange punch and the transmission is for certain more slick than in my car.

 

A lot has to do with the tranny. Camrys aren't actually that slow. Some guy posted in here a few days ago with a moderately modded Camry that ran mid 14's on the 1/4 mile in a speed. Sorry guys didn't mean to burst the bubble. I just thought that it's better to know your opponent when u gotta beat 'em.

 

How do you know Camry has better auto tranny than Max???
Forget about magazine times, we all know that ealier auto maximas all had tranny slip problems, once you get that fixed, you can run at least 15.5sec 1/4 miles with just k&N airfiter....

after got my tranny fixed under newest TSB, wowow...slipping is history, car downshifts faster and way faster than the old *** TCM i had when i first purchase my car...definitely kill V6 camry anytime anyday......

P.S the one camry that ran mid 14sec was a stick...max with stick can reach that time for no problem if you are a good driver!!


Tim

 

Sorry but your dreaming. Camry V6's are just as quick with or without the new TCM/Selenoid. Punch both cars at 30-35mph and you'll see who had the better transmission. Unless you've driven a Camry, I wouldn't be talking all this stuff.

 

Your right, the Camry automatic is much more efficient than the Maxima's. This is one of the reasons why the Camry can match the Maxima in 0-60 acceleration. This shows the Camry's has similar low-midrange punch.

Take a look at consumer reports. They tested a 00 V6 Camry and a 00 Maxima GXE. The Camry beat 0-30, but the Maxima caught up and they both got similar 0-60 times. This shows the Camry has better low-midrange punch but the Maxima's topend will make it pull faster at higher speeds. Reading an old Car and Driver. They did a test on family sedans on the 95 Maxima SE and the 95 Camry SE and others. The Maxima beat 0-60 but the Camry caught up and had a similar time at 120mph which justifies the Camry's topend power and the 95 Maxima's lowend power.

My point, both cars are similar and will get similar times stock vs stock. I don't see why some people think Camry's are slow. Do you have something blocking your brain? Or do you just hate Camry's that much? What next? Accord V6's VTEC are slow? Nope, all these three have similar acceleration.

 

ScreamingVQ, i'm going to have to disagree with you on this entire issue...when my car was stock, i beat camry's all the time...magazines come up with crap times...for example, in that issue where the camry is supposed to be faster than the max, they gave the max auto a 0-60 speed of 8.1 seconds...that is the slowest time i have ever seen for an auto 5th gen max...i have seen ranges from 7.2 to that...also, you say the camry is more efficient...try this on, both the camry and the maxima have 3.0 liter v6 engines and the maxima somehow produces 27 more hp...hmm...i have raced camry's, v6's and i4's, and i have not lost yet (there are a couple camry's around here w/ NOS, though, but i haven't gotten a chance to race them)

 

Maximas are the best!!!

Open your eyes.
Biased statements.
More "enthusiasts"opt for the sportier Max.

Do a search on Camry...see what's really up.

 

ScreamingVQ, also...lets take a stock max vs. a stock camry in the twisties...see who falls off the mountain first...the max has better straight line accel, better handling, better stereo, better looks etc. etc. etc...toyota's are also great cars...i'm not trying to say bad things about them, but in a race, a stock maxima auto will beat a stock camry auto and a stock maxima stick will beat a stock camry stick...camry's are great cars though, and if i were looking for long term reliability rather than driving enjoyment, i might look over to that direction (i'd most likely look to bmw for both once i learn how to save)

 

Which can you best picture your grandma in?? A stock camry V-6, or a Stock Maxima SE??? Enough said...the camry is for the old folks!!

 

Handling yes, the Maxima will win. But no one ever said anything about "handling." I was talking about effecient tranmission, not engine as you stated in your post. Why are you turning the things I say around? Stock for stock, I'm sure some others will agree, the Camry is just as fast.

 

screamingvq, toyota also only has the v6 avaliable in 1 automatic model and 2 or 3 manual models...

lets have a poll for people that read this thread...

from now on, everyone reply to this post only by saying CAMRY or MAXIMA...CAMRY if you think a stock v6 camry auto will beat a stock maxima auto or say MAXIMA if you think the maxima will win

 

Maxima

Maybe between 0-30 the camry will be faster but when you floor it on an endless road the maxima will beat the $hit out of the camry. Much more HP, torqe and much more sportier car

 

Hey guys, I had a good times reading all the comments about Camry VS Max. I raced a couple of Camry so far and never lost. I actually beat them really baddly. So maybe I just raced bozo euhm... I dont believe that Camry driver are all bozo's, or maybe I am an extraordinary driver. Seriously, I believe the fact that If I beat Camry all the time it is because I have a real world BETTER & FASTER CAR, and perhaps I'm a good driver.

For me magazines numbers are good for entertaining Lazy-Boy drivers, they even come with 2 speed stick on the side
and popcorn tray, the coke holder is an option... he he he

I just though of making you laugh a bit.

Cheers

Double A

Maxima 2001 SE 20 th

OSCAI ( I will try it next week-end )
Cattman FSTB ( on the way )
Front Clear corner (amber)
Rear Clear corner
Polar G ( on the way )
Tinted window ( next week-end )
235/45/17 ( next week-end )
RSB ( april )
Eibach ( april )
Intake ( maybe Cattman when finished )
Y-Pipe ( Cattman )

 

Yeah, I smoked this chick in one on the way home from work one day on a nice stretch of road. She kept up pretty well, we were trading places on and off, but I finally prevailed when the speed exceeded recommended limits. Maybe she just got scared, we were doin about 90 in a 40 on a long, gentle curve. She was even on the inside of the curve. Anyway. THE SUPERBLACK MAX GETS THE CHECKERED FLAG.

 

the max would win the poll here.. first, this again is a site for MAXIMA ENTHUSIAST.. keyword.. even tho i still think at a drag race... a max would win.... thats just my opionion...
james

 

Camry's??? The hell? Come on guys... we can do better than that.

 

I think the Camry may be faster 0-30 because of weight, not because of the tranny. Anyway... I have 1/4 mile time of 15.4 with only a cone intake. Magazine times are not accurate. I think SCC comes the closest.

 

 

I love how a few months ago there was talk of people taking on Mustangs successfully.... Now there is doubt when it comes to camry's....???

So to answer the question --> If you took a stock maxima fresh from nissan, and a stock camry fresh from toyota, (maybe broke them in a bit first), and then put them on a drag strip...... YOU WOULD HAVE ONE HELL OF A TIME CONVINCING ME THAT THE CAMRY WOULD GET TO THE FINISH LINE FIRST....

With automatics it is almost a given that the maxima would win... (Assuming you don't manually shift, and as long as you don't mash the pedal and massively spin out, there's not much else that can go wrong...)

and ESPECIALLY given unlimited road.. (say 1 - 1.5 miles) it would be murder... the max has more high end power... once the race gets over 100 mph forget it....

With manuals, the camry would stand a chance if driver skill were uneven... (so I DO concede that it's not a total kill, they are close enough to make a difference with ****ty stick driving...)

I feel the same about accords... they are close, but not close enough to make the results unpredictable... In my mind the max always wins... :-)


-Tom

PS... Max auto 0-60 speeds of 8.1 seconds?? I don't think so !!! Motor Trend must've been on crack, cuz on their website they claim 7.5 for an auto (which seems much more reasonable), and 6.7 for a manual... eh..

 

HUH..excuse me..my family are toyota fans...this is my first Nissan car..
the camry makes you feel faster because the car is soft...

I have driven my mom's camry several times...no comparison with my max..maybe something wrong with your car...

Tim

 

My point exactly, Camry is no competition with 5th gen maxima..especially with the NEW Solenoid and TCM..forget about it..my car shifts solid, fast, way less slipping than before...

 

Hey Wustylez, it's been many time I readed about this TCM ( tranny slip between 1st gear and 2nd ) on Max 2001, are we talking about stick or auto max?

Thanks for any answer.

Double A

 

Tranny slip if for autos.

 

Not just 1st to 2nd..mine was totally different, mine was slipping from 2nd to 3rd..but my firt to second was so fast, just like if it had VB mod..but whenever i go up hill, i can feel the 2nd to 3rd slipping pretty bad...

but new solenoid took care of it...wowohwohwowooooo

Tim

 

Just look at it this way. I'm not convinced of what your saying just like your not convinced at what I'm saying. You've beaten a Camry but the fellas at www.camryman.org can say the same about the Maxima.

 

Just ask yourself, would you rahter be tuning up a Camry or a maxima?

thank you

Tim

 

if you were to put 100 dollars on a race between and max and a camry what car would you put it on? nuff said

i have driven the latest gen and a past gen cam too so its not like im totally oblivious

 

Well Maxima of course because I have one. I'd modify any car I have regardless of make or model. But that wasn't the original question of the thread starter.

 

Don't mean to beat this already dead horse... but I will. I'm not a big Toyota fan, mostly due to styling. The Camry 5 speed is pretty fast and the auto is close to ours. The image is not quite the same, but the peformance is pretty close. Where's the Camry guy on this forum? He's run a 14.9 (or lower) so that beats all of us lame auto guys.

 

Yeah where is gLok when you need him?

 

Mine is a 93 SE auto.... I raced him twice, once he jumped on me but as soon as I hit 2nd gear I pulled on him and lost him at around 90 by a couple of car lengths..... In the 2nd start from another red light, We came off the line even, then again, as soon as my slow *** auto shifted to 2nd, I started to pull on him by the 4-5k RPM range, Forget about what happened after that

My car is 190hp, his is 185, we are both stock and I had heavier rims on.. He still talks **** like my Maxima is a POS and Toyota's rule. One thing I must say, is that Toyota auto trannies are super smooth if compared to a Nissan..

Also, wasn't the Camry dude running 14s the one with the Supercharger?

Correct me if I am mistaking.

 

I don't think gLok was running a supercharger with those times. I think he just has basic bolt-ons.

 

To further elaborate this point, the April 2001 edition of Road and Track (Pg.133 Road Test Summary), has both the Camry XLE-V6 194Hp (0 to 60 in 8.2) and the Camry Solara V6 200Hp (0 to 60 in 7.9) Both are automatics. This is compared to the Max SE Auto with a 0 to 60 time of 7.8 I think all these times are slow by at least .3 of a second but I guess it's all about who you believe. At least the Max fared better here than in Car and Driver. These road test are very subjective.

 

But why?? dammit... WHY??

with an automatic, how subjective can you get.... I understand that there are little intricacies, such as wheelspin during launch, and of course one can partake in some stupidity and manually shift the auto, torque break, etc.

Of course, there are also minor variations between cars...

So, why can't we just all get together and agree on some uniform standard for benchmarking cars in the most non-subjective manner possible. Ie.. a finely tuned device similar to a dyno for benchmarking accelerations, top speeds etc... Then perhaps, take a random sampling of cars (same model), and average the results... Believe it or not, I have seen 5th gen auto maxima 0-60 times vary by as much as .8 seconds (between magazines...) Who do you believe under such circumstances?? Simply unacceptable in my opinion...

-Tom

PS... my money is still on the max... sorry camry...