5th gen vs 5.5 gen
08-26-2004, 06:58 PM
#2
Originally Posted by sleotta
what is the difference between a 5th gen max and a 5.5 gen max?
yes im a noob... dont sigh too hard
yes im a noob... dont sigh too hard
08-26-2004, 07:30 PM
#9
Originally Posted by sleotta
ok... when did it become a 5.5?
5th gen = new body style, VQ30 3.0 liter engine
5.5th gen = same body style as 5th gen, VQ35 3.5 liter engine
6th gen = new body style
4th gen - up to 1999
5th gen - 2000-2001
5.5th gen - 2002-2003
6th gen 2004+
main differences 5th gen vs. 5.5th gen:
Engine: 225hp 3.0 liter vs. 255-265 hp 3.5 liter
manual Tranny: 5-speed stick vs. 6 speed stick
Throttle: standard (cable) vs. drive-by wire
Appearance: different grille, front bumpers
Headlights: standard halogen vs. HID
Taillights: black carbon (or all-red) vs.. Chrome/"alteeza-style"
Interior features: 5.5th gen adds optional heated steering wheel, different seats, different shift console, some other things.....
in terms of brakes, suspension, general interior layout - they are all essentially the same....
the real notable differences are the engine and the HIDs......
both are great cars. The 5.5th gens are faster, but the 5th gen is by no means a slouch on power...
08-26-2004, 07:51 PM
#12
Originally Posted by Arnold K.
222HP, actually. Then there is the AE SE which is 227HP.
08-26-2004, 07:54 PM
#13
eh, couple of interior things off the top of my head: (oh, and remember some are options)
1. slightly different style leather seats
2. seat memory
3. heated steering wheel
4. in-dash 6cd player bose
5. gauges
6. 6spd shift **** or gated auto shifter
7. shifter console and shift boot (manual)
8. trip computer option
other:
1. 5.5gen stock rim selection (3 types)
2. chrome/special exhaust tips
3. 2k2-2k3 sideskirts
1. slightly different style leather seats
2. seat memory
3. heated steering wheel
4. in-dash 6cd player bose
5. gauges
6. 6spd shift **** or gated auto shifter
7. shifter console and shift boot (manual)
8. trip computer option
other:
1. 5.5gen stock rim selection (3 types)
2. chrome/special exhaust tips
3. 2k2-2k3 sideskirts
08-26-2004, 07:56 PM
#15
Originally Posted by Larrio
eh, couple of interior things off the top of my head: (oh, and remember some are options)
1. slightly different style leather seats
2. seat memory
3. heated steering wheel
4. in-dash 6cd player bose
5. gauges
6. 6spd shift **** or gated auto shifter
7. shifter console and shift boot (manual)
8. trip computer option
other:
1. 5.5gen stock rim selection (3 types)
2. chrome/special exhaust tips
3. 2k2-2k3 sideskirts
1. slightly different style leather seats
2. seat memory
3. heated steering wheel
4. in-dash 6cd player bose
5. gauges
6. 6spd shift **** or gated auto shifter
7. shifter console and shift boot (manual)
8. trip computer option
other:
1. 5.5gen stock rim selection (3 types)
2. chrome/special exhaust tips
3. 2k2-2k3 sideskirts
08-26-2004, 08:37 PM
#16
[QUOTE=Arnold K.]
That's actually the last thing he said....
Here I will have to disagree with the common opinion about the 3.5 being the better of the two in each and every aspect. I'm only talking about the GLE, since this is what I know. I drove today an '03 and was far from impressed. The whopping 33hp difference between the two doesn't really make one feel like the 3.5 has one cylinder more (unlike what a lot of people will tell you here). The car was on stock Potenzas, so that might have made matters worse. But the 03 GLE had nowhere near the soft 'luxurious' ride my GLE has. It did not even have the chrome door handles inside that I have, which IMO look a ton better.
Otherwise, I loved the '03. I wanted to drive it with the intention of buying it, but sorry, it didn't turn out all that worth the extra $$$.
other:
1. 5.5gen stock rim selection (3 types)
2. chrome/special exhaust tips
3. 2k2-2k3 sideskirts
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No one mentioned that the 5.5s also have side skirts which make the car look like it's sitting lower.
1. 5.5gen stock rim selection (3 types)
2. chrome/special exhaust tips
3. 2k2-2k3 sideskirts
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No one mentioned that the 5.5s also have side skirts which make the car look like it's sitting lower.
Here I will have to disagree with the common opinion about the 3.5 being the better of the two in each and every aspect. I'm only talking about the GLE, since this is what I know. I drove today an '03 and was far from impressed. The whopping 33hp difference between the two doesn't really make one feel like the 3.5 has one cylinder more (unlike what a lot of people will tell you here). The car was on stock Potenzas, so that might have made matters worse. But the 03 GLE had nowhere near the soft 'luxurious' ride my GLE has. It did not even have the chrome door handles inside that I have, which IMO look a ton better.
Otherwise, I loved the '03. I wanted to drive it with the intention of buying it, but sorry, it didn't turn out all that worth the extra $$$.
08-27-2004, 01:10 AM
#19
It was suggested a long time ago that each have their own subforum. I don't think Nissan was able to foresee the turmoil a mid-generation increase of
engine size has created among the 5th gen strata.. what were they thinking??
A 5th generation Maxima is a 5th generation Maxima, it's not a Benz, it's not a Bimmer, it's not even the latest generation Maxima anymore. ..so frankly, I think we're the only ones that believe the differences between our cars are a big deal.
engine size has created among the 5th gen strata.. what were they thinking??
A 5th generation Maxima is a 5th generation Maxima, it's not a Benz, it's not a Bimmer, it's not even the latest generation Maxima anymore. ..so frankly, I think we're the only ones that believe the differences between our cars are a big deal.
08-27-2004, 04:08 AM
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one thing about the 5.5 Gen that I like (which is rarely mentioned as a difference between the two) is the leather seats..I prefer the pattern of the stitching in the 5.5 Gen..in fact, when I was looking to trade in my 1998 Sentra SE (w/sr20de) for a new car back in 2000, I test drove a 2000 5 speed and bought a 1998 SE Maxima instead...why? well, one reason was price, but the ugly seats in the y2k and 2k1 kept me from ponying up the extra cash that I could have ponyed up...
thanks for the ugly seats nissan, you saved me an assload of money.
-vq
thanks for the ugly seats nissan, you saved me an assload of money.
-vq
08-27-2004, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximadmoiselle
It was suggested a long time ago that each have their own subforum. I don't think Nissan was able to foresee the turmoil a mid-generation increase of
engine size has created among the 5th gen strata.. what were they thinking??
A 5th generation Maxima is a 5th generation Maxima, it's not a Benz, it's not a Bimmer, it's not even the latest generation Maxima anymore. ..so frankly, I think we're the only ones that believe the differences between our cars are a big deal.
engine size has created among the 5th gen strata.. what were they thinking??
A 5th generation Maxima is a 5th generation Maxima, it's not a Benz, it's not a Bimmer, it's not even the latest generation Maxima anymore. ..so frankly, I think we're the only ones that believe the differences between our cars are a big deal.
I agree. Besides there are only 4 "major" differences between the two that really matter: 3.5L motor, 6MT, Navi and HIDs. (6MT & Navi seem to be somewhat rare so, mainly only two differences.) Everthing else is just fluff.
A coworker of mine is looking to buy a 5G Maxima and I recommended the AE model for several reasons: no-HID theft problem (he lives in Brooklyn), best looking body pkg, cool AE trim and its about $1,500 cheaper than a similarly equipped 02. As far as power goes, unless you have some open road, the 5G should hold its own with the 5.5G.
Peace.
08-27-2004, 06:44 AM
#22
haha.. that was funny. Yea, i did mention the seats further up on my previous post.
i firmly believe nissan was planning on the 5.5 gen when the made the 5th gens. This is partially due to the reason that i drive a AE/SE, which is fully loaded and I still have empty buttons on the panels in the car where other "options" would go. Also, that whole idea of 4th gen metal IM to 5th gen plastic IM and back to 5.5 gen metal IM makes me very fishy why they pulled it off the market in two years and now we have all those VIAS failures
i firmly believe nissan was planning on the 5.5 gen when the made the 5th gens. This is partially due to the reason that i drive a AE/SE, which is fully loaded and I still have empty buttons on the panels in the car where other "options" would go. Also, that whole idea of 4th gen metal IM to 5th gen plastic IM and back to 5.5 gen metal IM makes me very fishy why they pulled it off the market in two years and now we have all those VIAS failures
08-27-2004, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
Also, that whole idea of 4th gen metal IM to 5th gen plastic IM and back to 5.5 gen metal IM makes me very fishy why they pulled it off the market in two years and now we have all those VIAS failures
What is IM and VIAS?
Sorry if this is common knowledge...
08-27-2004, 11:00 AM
#25
Someone make a FAQ about 5th generation color, options, standard ect... and STICKY it so this question doesn't come up every week 
And according to my 2000 GLE Window sticker (build date 11/99) Its NVIS (Nissan Variable Induction System) which is also known as VI or VIAS here on the boards.
And according to my 2000 GLE Window sticker (build date 11/99) Its NVIS (Nissan Variable Induction System) which is also known as VI or VIAS here on the boards.
08-27-2004, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
I agree. Besides there are only 4 "major" differences between the two that really matter: 3.5L motor, 6MT, Navi and HIDs. (6MT & Navi seem to be somewhat rare so, mainly only two differences.) Everthing else is just fluff.
A coworker of mine is looking to buy a 5G Maxima and I recommended the AE model for several reasons: no-HID theft problem (he lives in Brooklyn), best looking body pkg, cool AE trim and its about $1,500 cheaper than a similarly equipped 02. As far as power goes, unless you have some open road, the 5G should hold its own with the 5.5G.
Peace.
A coworker of mine is looking to buy a 5G Maxima and I recommended the AE model for several reasons: no-HID theft problem (he lives in Brooklyn), best looking body pkg, cool AE trim and its about $1,500 cheaper than a similarly equipped 02. As far as power goes, unless you have some open road, the 5G should hold its own with the 5.5G.
Peace.
08-27-2004, 12:47 PM
#28
Originally Posted by MONTE 01&97 SE
Not automatic to automatic even a short 600 ft run you would see a major difference in the power/torque. difference between a 5 gen and a 5.5 gen. 5.5 gens torque shows its adavantage down low.
08-27-2004, 01:47 PM
#29
Originally Posted by Larrio
haha.. that was funny. Yea, i did mention the seats further up on my previous post.
i firmly believe nissan was planning on the 5.5 gen when the made the 5th gens. This is partially due to the reason that i drive a AE/SE, which is fully loaded and I still have empty buttons on the panels in the car where other "options" would go. Also, that whole idea of 4th gen metal IM to 5th gen plastic IM and back to 5.5 gen metal IM makes me very fishy why they pulled it off the market in two years and now we have all those VIAS failures
i firmly believe nissan was planning on the 5.5 gen when the made the 5th gens. This is partially due to the reason that i drive a AE/SE, which is fully loaded and I still have empty buttons on the panels in the car where other "options" would go. Also, that whole idea of 4th gen metal IM to 5th gen plastic IM and back to 5.5 gen metal IM makes me very fishy why they pulled it off the market in two years and now we have all those VIAS failures
but then again, I don't stand around outside the car looking at my seats. Usually my A S S is sitting in them, so I'm not looking at the seat.
but I guess you 5.5th gen guys are just so much cooler.....oh well.
08-27-2004, 01:54 PM
#30
Originally Posted by irish44j
I just have to mention - I actually like my leather seats in my 2000 max. Yeah, the seats in the 5.5th gen are a little prettier, but the 2k seats are comfortable, just as adjustable, and look fine.
but then again, I don't stand around outside the car looking at my seats. Usually my A S S is sitting in them, so I'm not looking at the seat.
but I guess you 5.5th gen guys are just so much cooler.....oh well.
but then again, I don't stand around outside the car looking at my seats. Usually my A S S is sitting in them, so I'm not looking at the seat.
but I guess you 5.5th gen guys are just so much cooler.....oh well.
08-27-2004, 06:46 PM
#31
Originally Posted by irish44j
I just have to mention - I actually like my leather seats in my 2000 max. Yeah, the seats in the 5.5th gen are a little prettier, but the 2k seats are comfortable, just as adjustable, and look fine.
but then again, I don't stand around outside the car looking at my seats. Usually my A S S is sitting in them, so I'm not looking at the seat.
but I guess you 5.5th gen guys are just so much cooler.....oh well.
but then again, I don't stand around outside the car looking at my seats. Usually my A S S is sitting in them, so I'm not looking at the seat.
but I guess you 5.5th gen guys are just so much cooler.....oh well.
08-27-2004, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
but I guess you 5.5th gen guys are just so much cooler.....oh well.
The 5.5 is second only (all-around FWD Sport Sedan) to the 3rd Gen Maxima...
EDIT: and I like the leather seats in my '93 SE-R better than my 5.5 Gen Max
-vq
08-28-2004, 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by VQMAN
EDIT: and I like the leather seats in my '93 SE-R better than my 5.5 Gen Max
-vq
08-28-2004, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 02SEinStL
Yeah but I'm thinkin those are aftermarket, in which case all sorts of possibilities open up...my neighbor just picked up a nice pearl white 02 SE with 2-tone Katzkin leather and it's the absolute NICEST leather I've ever seen in a Max. Looks great (gathered just right), holds you in place way better than stock cow, even smells great. I think it has a lifetime warranty, too
but the cushions are stock
-vq
08-28-2004, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
i firmly believe nissan was planning on the 5.5 gen when the made the 5th gens. This is partially due to the reason that i drive a AE/SE, which is fully loaded and I still have empty buttons on the panels in the car where other "options" would go.
08-30-2004, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by xtantmaxima
I actually think those blank panels are for the Cefiro and other international cars that had more options then ours.
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