Non-HLSD Conversion to HLSD finally done!!
09-17-2004, 12:48 AM
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Non-HLSD Conversion to HLSD finally done!!
So I posted a couple months ago that I was going to purchase the HLSD unit, from Dave Burnette, and convert my car from a Non-HLSD to an HLSD.
Well, Tony and I did it this Wed & Thurs... We could have gotten it done all on Wednesday, but a part we needed didn't arrive at the dealership...
So here's the pics... I'm not gonna do alot of narrative, so if you wanna know more, you can PM me or email Tony (his email is on my Cardomain site)
Enjoy!
PS - We'll be taking a pic of the dual-stripes we left on the street later and post them...
Tranny on the bench:
Case cracked, open diff removed:
Open diff on the right, HLSD unit on the left:
Well, Tony and I did it this Wed & Thurs... We could have gotten it done all on Wednesday, but a part we needed didn't arrive at the dealership...
So here's the pics... I'm not gonna do alot of narrative, so if you wanna know more, you can PM me or email Tony (his email is on my Cardomain site)
Enjoy!
PS - We'll be taking a pic of the dual-stripes we left on the street later and post them...
Tranny on the bench:
Case cracked, open diff removed:
Open diff on the right, HLSD unit on the left:
09-17-2004, 12:50 AM
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HLSD installed:
Closeup of the splines inside the HLSD - You can see that there are splines for both axles...
Pic of the JWT lightened flywheel installed... we also installed my JWT Stage 2 clutch after this pic was taken...
Closeup of the splines inside the HLSD - You can see that there are splines for both axles...
Pic of the JWT lightened flywheel installed... we also installed my JWT Stage 2 clutch after this pic was taken...
09-17-2004, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I wonder if the AE LSD can be done this "easily" or even purchased separately.
09-17-2004, 12:53 PM
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Damn NISMO...they have it out for us for some reason.
Nismo-->
<--Me
Nismo-->
<--Me
Originally Posted by DAVEB
Nope, bearing diameters are WAY different. I may have a lo-mile 2000 trans to try the Nismo LSD in soon- the Nismo catalog lists an LSD for all RSF5F50A applications BUT the Maxima. Hmmm-
09-17-2004, 01:18 PM
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I didn't realize JWT had produced a lightened flywheel or clutch for 5.5 gens. Are these the 350z ones or specific applications for the 5.5 Max's? What are the specs, weight, type of clutch material etc?
BTW nice job.
BTW nice job.
09-17-2004, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 808SE
I didn't realize JWT had produced a lightened flywheel or clutch for 5.5 gens. Are these the 350z ones or specific applications for the 5.5 Max's? What are the specs, weight, type of clutch material etc?
BTW nice job.
BTW nice job.
I have pics of the OEM flywheel weighing in at 29-30lbs and the JWT flywheel at 15lbs... Big difference in weight. Also, due to the differences in materials and weight, the harmonics are totally different - noticed when starting the car. It almost sounds as if the starter is grinding, but we called JWT and they said that the sound is normal.
The clutch is JWT's Stage 2 clutch. It actually looks like a 300ZX TT clutch that has been re-manufactured by JWT - NISSAN is stamped all over the clutch. The Flywheel looks like a Fidanza flywheel that's been rebadged for JWT.
JWT sells the Stage 1/2 clutches and the flywheel as specific for the 2K2/2K3 Maximas.
EDIT: Oh yeah, the clutch is made of organic materials...
09-17-2004, 05:28 PM
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Here're the pics of the new dual stripes we left on the street... We weren't trying to do a big burnout, since the clutch is supposed to be broken in for 500 miles...
You can see that there's a break in the stripes... this is the 1 - 2 shift
You can see that there's a break in the stripes... this is the 1 - 2 shift
09-17-2004, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by fornimage
Write-up in the near futre??? I like what I see...good job man!
Tony's the Nissan Master Tech and he did the overhaul... if you want to know more information though, you can feel free to email him - there's an email link on my cardomain page... look for where it says "click here"
09-17-2004, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ChromeSE5
so uh, how does it feel? i bet its nice with ur clutch and fly
With both wheels now providing power to the ground, the car seems to pull harder off the line. Also, torque steer is somewhat reduced.
The stage 2 clutch is very nice - no chatter at all. On my 2K, the stage 1 ACT clutch/fidanza flywheel setup had lots of chatter until I learned how to drive with them...
With this JWT clutch, there's no chatter, but once the clutch engages, IT ENGAGES!
The RPM's drop off quicker between shifts, but I shift pretty quickly by habit, so it's not a problem for me.
09-17-2004, 10:56 PM
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Of course this isn't a swap recommended for most people to attempt. The RS6F51 is a big PITA to dissasemble. But it is nice to see someone else finally doing this swap.
The RS5F50A is the old 5 speed used in the '95-'01 Maxima and you can't add a VLSD to one. The RS5F50V has a much larger outer bearing race toa ccomodate the Viscous unit. To convert this transmission you would also need the transmission casing to go along with it.
Here are some more pictures of the swap I did last February.
http://www.vq35de.com/images/2K2Max/RS6F51H/
The RS5F50A is the old 5 speed used in the '95-'01 Maxima and you can't add a VLSD to one. The RS5F50V has a much larger outer bearing race toa ccomodate the Viscous unit. To convert this transmission you would also need the transmission casing to go along with it.
Here are some more pictures of the swap I did last February.
http://www.vq35de.com/images/2K2Max/RS6F51H/
09-18-2004, 06:21 AM
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What are the prices on the clutch and flywheel combo?
I am hoping my clutch doesn't go out soon, I'm only at 34K but when it does, I don't think I would like a OEM replacement, perhaps something a bit beefier, but still easy to drive in traffic.
I am hoping my clutch doesn't go out soon, I'm only at 34K but when it does, I don't think I would like a OEM replacement, perhaps something a bit beefier, but still easy to drive in traffic.
09-18-2004, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by GuZo
What are the prices on the clutch and flywheel combo?
I am hoping my clutch doesn't go out soon, I'm only at 34K but when it does, I don't think I would like a OEM replacement, perhaps something a bit beefier, but still easy to drive in traffic.
I am hoping my clutch doesn't go out soon, I'm only at 34K but when it does, I don't think I would like a OEM replacement, perhaps something a bit beefier, but still easy to drive in traffic.
09-18-2004, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXINXS
Sweet, I want to do this! Does the car launch much better? How different does accelerating hard feel with this installed?
09-18-2004, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by scopium
um.. sorry for the lack of info but what is the HSLD.. what does it stand for and what does it do
roy: nice pics, awesome tranny upgrades. Hope to see your car soon in person
I want
09-18-2004, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mjg
wow, looks great!
Someday if i ever need to do the clutch, i'd love to try out all this stuff!
If you don't mind me being nosy, how much did you pay in parts?
Someday if i ever need to do the clutch, i'd love to try out all this stuff!
If you don't mind me being nosy, how much did you pay in parts?
The bearings, races, bore plug, anaerobic gasket goop, synthetic blend gear oil, etc., cost at most, another $75-100.
The Stage 2 clutch and lightened flywheel were about $950 shipped...
09-18-2004, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Larrio
www.howstuffworks.com and search for limited slip differentials. You can see pictures and diagrams
roy: nice pics, awesome tranny upgrades. Hope to see your car soon in person
roy: nice pics, awesome tranny upgrades. Hope to see your car soon in person
09-20-2004, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Of course this isn't a swap recommended for most people to attempt. The RS6F51 is a big PITA to dissasemble. But it is nice to see someone else finally doing this swap.
The RS5F50A is the old 5 speed used in the '95-'01 Maxima and you can't add a VLSD to one. The RS5F50V has a much larger outer bearing race toa ccomodate the Viscous unit. To convert this transmission you would also need the transmission casing to go along with it.
Here are some more pictures of the swap I did last February.
http://www.vq35de.com/images/2K2Max/RS6F51H/
The RS5F50A is the old 5 speed used in the '95-'01 Maxima and you can't add a VLSD to one. The RS5F50V has a much larger outer bearing race toa ccomodate the Viscous unit. To convert this transmission you would also need the transmission casing to go along with it.
Here are some more pictures of the swap I did last February.
http://www.vq35de.com/images/2K2Max/RS6F51H/
09-22-2004, 06:41 PM
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Looks fairly simple vs my 5spd rebuild I did just not too long ago. Tranny looks very similar to the Honda 6spd FWD units. Shift forks pull out with the main shaft and counter shaft ? Or do you have to pound out all kinds of roll pins n stuff to get the shifter rod out of the case ? It looks like a very simple tranny vs the old 5spd. I rebuild alot of Acura 6spd trannies a year- trans guy at Acura This is why I mention the Honda 6MT.
This is why I mention the Honda 6MT.
09-22-2004, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
Looks fairly simple vs my 5spd rebuild I did just not too long ago. Tranny looks very similar to the Honda 6spd FWD units. Shift forks pull out with the main shaft and counter shaft ? Or do you have to pound out all kinds of roll pins n stuff to get the shifter rod out of the case ? It looks like a very simple tranny vs the old 5spd. I rebuild alot of Acura 6spd trannies a year- trans guy at Acura This is why I mention the Honda 6MT.
This is why I mention the Honda 6MT.This one also has a constant mesh reverse with it's own baulk ring syncrhonizer.
