What's the difference between the 2000/1 and the 2002/3....

I know the taillights are different for the GLE / GXE models and that the 2002/3 have 3.5 engine... can someone tell me some other differences...

I think i'm gettin' a 00 GLE maxima.. so i'm lookin' to mod it out soon as i get it... so I wanna know some difference from the other org member's pictures that i see.. so i know what I can do!

Thanx all!

 

no difference at all

please someone, make a sticky of this subject!!!!!

your main differences are in the following points from org members, which are sure to get argumentative, personal, and locked...

here you go:

 

1. engine
2. lights (taillights and HID headlights)
3. tranny (esp. if manual 5sp vs 6sp)
4. seats/some interior features
..and other smaller things.

 

Make this a sticky....

Zero, check this out... this was a very recent discussion on here.... http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=345860

 

With over 1400 posts, he should know that difference!!

 

HID's on '02-03
Slight body differences (front lower facia is a bit different and bumper is more squared off on the '02-03)
Engines
I'm sure there are a few others

 

I have asked many times to make this damn topic a sticky, but no one reads stickys anyways...so what would be the point. I will bet this same topic will come up one more time within the next week.

 

sorry guys... i'm actually a NOOB to the 5th gen... should be getting a 5th gen Tuesday or Thursday... so even with 1400 post... i wouldn't know the answer cuz i'm a 5th gen NOOBIE :-)

Sorry ORG members!

 

 

ZeroMax....a little advice....if you're gonna join the 5th gen forums and don't wanna get flamed....might want to not list "Chinese Graphics" as the top mod in your signature Your 4th gen ride looks damn good, don't ruin it with cheesy emblems from autozone....(even if you are Chinese)...the maxima is a Japanese car and that's like putting the Union Jack on a BMW

I assume they are the stickers down on the bottom of the back door?

 

5.5th gen has standard/options that 5th gen doesn't have:
1. seat memory
2. 6 disk in dash CD changer
3. chrome reverse indiglo tail lights
4. gle 17" rims
5. se 17" rims with no center cap
6. vq35de
7. 6spd cable shifted transmission
8. trip control
9. black accent gauges
10. hids, different front bumper, sideskirts, and fogs
11. HLSD
12. electronic drive by wire

thats all i remember off the top of my head

 

Not if he is only familiar with the 4th gen.

 

Japanese do use Chinese chracters. All the Car companies and people's names and many many names and nouns are in Chinese. Same goes for Korean.

And you CAN put Union Jack on a BMW. Think MINI :

As for the difference, Larrio posted a very good list. Some folks don't like 6 spd trans compared to 5 spd trans of 2k and 2k1 because the cable linkage gives some what of mush sensation when shifting.

 

The only two things I prefer on the 2000-2001s are, for one, the mechanically controlled throttle as opposed to the drive-by wire. I prefer to have direct control over the engine's output and speed, not just make "suggestions" to the computer. And second, the 6-speed transmission. It doesn't seem to be as reliable over the long term as the 5-speed, and the cable shift is a little sloppy, not to mention trying to get a short shifter. Although the helical limited slip might even the field some

 

drive by wire is fixed thru an ECU update. the guys who ***** about the 6spd cant drive..i had my max on a road course 4x and NEVER had a prob, cable shift is fine, and i am doing the alti SE-R STS. HLSD is better then any diff ANY gen max came with...questions??

 

drive by wire just takes some getting used to, its somewhat of a odd feeling at first... but that could just be me.

as for the cable shifter, I see no problems with that. It doesn't make the car harder to drive than a traditional shift linkage IMO. My one pick about it is that cables get more slack through time, loosening up and causing the slush-box feeling that many 6spd owners experience.

 

00-01s come factory equipped with a prone to fail VIAS, MAFs, Coils, wheel bearings, and windnoise around the rear doors. 02-03s come with crappy auto trannies that can't hold up the power.

 

lol..auto suck..love my 6spd with HLSD

 

Lets add to your list 13)avail. auto entry, 14)Different front seats and thread pattern,15)gated shifter (automatic),16)avail. heated steering wheel,17) one touch sunroof control,18)different steering wheel, 19)avail compass in rear view mirror, 20)revised window control,21) avail. nav.,22) different muffler/tail pipe,23)pop up center arm rest,24) revised radio face,26)remote window roll down feature,27) larger front brakes/rotors, 28)ride seems to be softer than the 5 gen SE,29)revised gauges, 30) standard auto dimming rearview

 

VIAS, coils, wheel bearing, wind noise... yes
prone to fail MAF? thats the 2k2-2k3's instead

 

lol.. that's been on there forever... it's actually my name in Japanese... so i just kept in there in the corner of course so people liek you don't see it and flame on me.. haha.. i had it when i was 16.. lol.. it was my first thing i did to the car cuz my friend has a ricey civic and put his name on his car.. and gave me one for FREE too.. so i decided to put it on and never took it off cuz it's so DARN hard!!!!

but ANYWAYS... i do want to get a 5th gen and become familiar with the family...

thanx everyone for posting the differences from 2000/1 - 2002/3

I think i'm gonna get a 2000 and get some tweeks to make it look like a 2002.. like the HID headlights and SE taillights and stuff like that..

I gotta find a new maXIma for sale around here now because the one i was gonna BUY tomorrow is sold :-(

Thanx everyone...

 

sorry to tell you this, but 5th gens already had:
17
23
30

and i already mentioned 24 and 29 kind of, but not in those words

 

Wouldnt you rather start with the more powerful 5.5 gen? Get a 2k2 or 2k3 with the 3.5L V6... you will not regret that choice.

 

Whatever you get, make sure that you get it somewhat loaded for your money. Don't settle for a GXE (the one with no trim emblem on the trunk). That's of course unless you want to mod it and deal with adding leather, system, etc.

For all you 02/03 guys, many of your SEs have less options than my 00 GLE so I don't understand what the biggie is anyway. Unless you clock your 1/4 mile time every morning in the traffic on the way to work, of course

 

Good point...of course I was referring to BMW-badged BMW :
The new mini is not a REAL mini though.... As someone who has a REAL British car, I can say that the new mini is a true poser....a nice little car, but not a british car (no, as I know, British cars break down FAR more often )...every time I see one with the UJ on the roof and mirrors, I feel the need to laugh and suggest that they paint a German flag on there

I figured as much, but had to give you a hard time for it anyways....especially since the rest of the car looks so good....I just thought is was funny that you had it on your sig line....crap, some girl I work with has a freakin NEON with Chinese characters on it

As to the 5th gen question....Sometimes I wish I had the 3.5 w/ 6 speed, but overall, I have to say I've been satisfied with my 3.0/5-speed (and the insurance on the 2k-2k1 is much lower thanks to smaller engine and no HIDs to get stolen)

 

IF you look at power.... 3.5L put out around 205-210WHP stock with a 6spd, my bone stock GXE put down 199WHP. TQ is the only thing 3.5Ls have over the 3.0Ls. I reather have a paid off reliable car than another TL which blows trannies every 30K miles. To each its own, I am making my own 3.5L, no VTC bs here, custom everything, ofcourse with a large snail pushing the air into the engine, and power transfered through my trusty 5spd manual tranny.

 

showoff

if we could all have boost, it would be nice

 

How many of you would buy a nice Turbo kit if it came with a preprogrammed eManage for a 5th gen 3.0L to run on stock injectors, and MAF good for 330WHP. Basically the eManage would be preset to a SAFE program for all 3.0L 5spds, automatic would need to test it out for themselfs to see if its safe or not. I'm shooting no more than 3K dollars for a turbo kit I'm planing on selling, top notch quality. No check engine lights, all cats but the precat in the stock Ypipe are going to be retained. 330WHP guaranteed with install instructions and possibly even a video ? I'm sick of seeing these mega expenssive turbo kits out there for Maximas, where people make TONS of $$$ on parts. Yet leave us die hard fans with nothing but a cheap, expensive kit that requires tons of tuning to get anything out of it. If anyone is interested please lemme know. Right now I'm working with a fabricator.

 

I'm interested in theory.....its always a matter of available $ of course, but will be watching to see what you put together....I would be satisfied with a light-boost turbo that would bump me to 250-270 at the wheels - lighter boost for more driveability in my daily 50-mile round-trip rushhour commute.....

out of curiosity, how cheap could a S/C be fabricated for if someone like you were to do it? (not that you would do it, I'm just curious, not being overly knowledgeable about FI)....

 

I have no idea how much a S/C itself costs but I'm sure its alot more $$$ than a turbocharger itself. I thought bout a roots style blower on a DE-K motor- it would be ala Grand Prix GTP look. But problem would be with all the sensors on the manifold which would cause nasty check engine lights to come on. For people like me I need my car CEL-free cause they check for codes when you go to smog test a car here in Chicago. I could fabricate the S/C bracket for a Vortech blower, idler pulleys n such in a diff way than Stillen did, with the SC on the other side of the engine powered by a long shaft to the belt area of the motor- kinda like the Civic/Integra Vortech blower setup. I'm more interested in turbo simply cause more power is just a turn of a boost controller ****- away Plus the turbo I would spec for each kit sold would be responsive enough to give ya the feel of a nice small V8. I'm shooting for 400WHP on my own car with perfect emissions. I have been around turbo SR20s for ages, and I see not only a nice market for turbos on Maximas, but something no one is willing to offer people- flexibility of buying just a turbo Y pipe, or just pieces of the whole kit. I won't however sell preprogrammed eManages to no one who won't buy the kit. I'm shooting for a 7psi turbo kit which is more than streetable and reliable for a normal Maxima driver.

 

2001s have #18

And #22 is just different exhaust tips AFAIK

 

The coils and MAF weren't so much issues on the 2001. Not sure about the wheel bearings and windnoise. My '01 @ 92,000 miles hasn't had any problems, except for of course the VIAS, and the "warping" front rotors.

 

I'm on my 5th MAF, I've not had coil problems but still repleaced them at 60K miles and kept my old ones as spares for Maximas I might work on later on- family owns 5 Maximas. Wheel bearings- did my rear ones both sides 2 times now at 100K miles. I had rotor problems with stock pads. My front wheel bearings howl like a grizzli bear durring mating season. I've had the wind noise bulletin done when the car was like 20K miles old, and I hear it again- so I need to re-do the bulletin myself. 02 muffler is same as a 00-01 muffler, if you look at stripped down GXEs they have no muffler tip finishers, both 00-01s and 02-03s. The muffler is identical. Only 00-01 GLE and SE had the weird looking single oval finisher. 00 uses older speedo pickup sensor from the tranny where 01-up use ABS wheel speed sensors for speedo reading. 01s have radio controlls on the steering wheel, 01 AE has VLSD, 01 also uses 90% of 02s CAN-Data systems. 01 has 6 small throttle bodies in the lower part of the intake manifold for emission reasons, 01 has a different VIAS plenum from 00. 01 uses front manifold and cat off a 02, 01 uses the same rear cat and exhaust system as 02. 01 has no fuel filter in the engine compartment- its in the tank for the life of the car.

 

Mos def interested in this Turbo kit, i've been considering getting a 3.5 because of the potential to get more power out of the engine. Especially lowend, and TQ, but if your seriously working on it for our 3.0's then that might be motivation to keep my 5.0, and not get the 5.5 or a Fx45. Keep us posted with progress, and do an official thread if you haven't already.

 

No official thread yet, I don't wanna have a Inbox full of PMs just yet. I'm waiting for some steel to come through so I can start to bend stuff.

 

Yes it has #18 but the 02 Steering wheel is different(chrome center and Center portion is styled differently) than the 00/01 and the exhaust tips are different, I was just trying to point out every "difference" whatever it might be.

 

But the basic design remains between 01 and 02

 

True. That said, I wouldnt pass up on having an 02/03 knowing that the VQ35DE performance aftermarket is expanding rapidly. (Thank you 350Z and G35C!! )

 

Just get a G35C

 

I'm certain there's a slight price difference between the 5G Max and a G coupe.