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Old Apr 16, 2001 | 10:36 AM
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Anyone put a turbo on their Max?

What can I tell you. I like to drive fast.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 10:52 AM
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Why re-invent the wheel when the super charger is available?

Originally posted by slord
Anyone put a turbo on their Max?

What can I tell you. I like to drive fast.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by slord
I like to drive fast.
then u should get the new Z instead of maxima =)

Stillen makes supercharge for maxima and boost it up to 281 hp...
cost : 4000 + - ?

www.stillen.com
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by slord
Anyone put a turbo on their Max?

What can I tell you. I like to drive fast.
Not yet.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 11:37 AM
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I thought JWT had turboed a 2000 Max, I could swear I saw pictures of it somewhere.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Green 2kSE
I thought JWT had turboed a 2000 Max, I could swear I saw pictures of it somewhere.
I think he meant any 5th gens on this forum.

If not, there's a 3rd gen and a 4th gen, but no 5th gens... yet.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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I thought JWT had turboed a 2000 Max, I could swear I saw pictures of it somewhere.
Yea...
cost to reproduce that kit....$15,000...
and its SLOWER than the Stillen SC...

Dont bother...
Unless you're Bill Gate's son...
Then again you wouldnt be driving a Maxima if you were...
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by Green 2kSE
I thought JWT had turboed a 2000 Max, I could swear I saw pictures of it somewhere.
The Eibach '00 Maxima is TURBOCHARGED courtesy of JWT and some major $$$$$. They did a custom install and I haven't heard if they are planning on producing any bolt-on kits. The article is in the April issue of Motor Trend. It supposedly put out 300 hp(to the wheels?) and dropped the 0-60 time form 7.25 to 5.82 seconds and the 1/4 went from 15.5sec/91.3mph to 14.3sec/99.3mph. Not bad, however the stock times seem a little slow. I bet they bumped up the stock times to make the turbo seem like it made a bigger difference.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 12:16 PM
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While we're on the topic of turbo'ing. Does anyone have pictures of the intercooler piping on the Eibach Max?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by My 4DSC


Yea...
cost to reproduce that kit....$15,000...
and its SLOWER than the Stillen SC...

Dont bother...
Unless you're Bill Gate's son...
Then again you wouldnt be driving a Maxima if you were...
$15,000? I doubt it. I can get a Garrett turbo for $350. What is the cost of a custom exhaust manifold, intake piping, blow-off valve, and timing controller? I doubt an intercooler is necessary and if the turbo is designed CORRECTLY you would get WAAAAAAY more ponies than your SC could even dream about. Of course, until my warranty wears off and I decide to step up, it's all pipe dreams right now. BTW, nice ride!
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


$15,000? I doubt it. I can get a Garrett turbo for $350. What is the cost of a custom exhaust manifold, intake piping, blow-off valve, and timing controller? I doubt an intercooler is necessary and if the turbo is designed CORRECTLY you would get WAAAAAAY more ponies than your SC could even dream about. Of course, until my warranty wears off and I decide to step up, it's all pipe dreams right now. BTW, nice ride!


I contacted JWT about the turbo kit myself and they told me the kit costs $10000 plus the install...

i think the Stillen SC with smaller pulleys,NOS and Level10 rebuild is more than enough power and much less $$$
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


$15,000? I doubt it. I can get a Garrett turbo for $350. What is the cost of a custom exhaust manifold, intake piping, blow-off valve, and timing controller? I doubt an intercooler is necessary and if the turbo is designed CORRECTLY you would get WAAAAAAY more ponies than your SC could even dream about. Of course, until my warranty wears off and I decide to step up, it's all pipe dreams right now. BTW, nice ride!
That's only the tip... fuel pump, fuel regulator (2 since we have 2 regulators), gauges, custom y pipe, custom intake piping, wastegate, turbo, injectors (high boost), ECU reprogramming, BOV, turbo timer (optional), boost controller, air/fuel controller, and intercooler.

Everything minus the piping, ECU reprogramming, labor is around $3.5k.

So, does anyone have pictures of the piping?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:23 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE



So, does anyone have pictures of the piping?

why are you looking for a pic? Planning on doing that to your max?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
While we're on the topic of turbo'ing. Does anyone have pictures of the intercooler piping on the Eibach Max?

i've got the Dec 2000 issue of Sport Compact Car right in front of me, but for some reason my scanner is not being nice right now. i did, however, take the pictures with my digcam. sorry, the quality sux right now. i'll scan it in when i get it working again.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:30 PM
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no piping pix...

but i've got pix of the specs, etc.

here we go.

Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE



why are you looking for a pic? Planning on doing that to your max?
. . . . . .

Originally posted by areX



i've got the Dec 2000 issue of Sport Compact Car right in front of me, but for some reason my scanner is not being nice right now. i did, however, take the pictures with my digcam. sorry, the quality sux right now. i'll scan it in when i get it working again.
I don't remember seeing the piping in that issue, but if you can scan and post a pic, I'd really appreciate it. I'm interested in seeing how they routed the piping from the turbo to the throttle body. I believe they routed the intercooler in from the right and out to the left, so I want to get an idea of how that's done.

Turbo95Max routes his piping in from the left and out to the left, but I like to see how the other way is done (if possible).
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Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:33 PM
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Re: no piping pix...

Originally posted by areX
but i've got pix of the specs, etc.

here we go.

[img]http://www.alexhsu.com/webpics/max_cover.jpg[/img
Hehehe... thanks, but I'm interested in the piping pics.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:33 PM
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last pic...

and yet still no piping pix... sorrreeee.......







Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:35 PM
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Re: last pic...

Originally posted by areX
and yet still no piping pix... sorrreeee.......


[img]http://www.alexhsu.com/webpics/jwt_1.jpg[/img




[img]http://www.alexhsu.com/webpics/jwt_2.jpg[/img
It's all good. Thanks!
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:49 PM
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now thAt was completely useless.....

Old Apr 16, 2001 | 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


That's only the tip... fuel pump, fuel regulator (2 since we have 2 regulators), gauges, custom y pipe, custom intake piping, wastegate, turbo, injectors (high boost), ECU reprogramming, BOV, turbo timer (optional), boost controller, air/fuel controller, and intercooler.

Everything minus the piping, ECU reprogramming, labor is around $3.5k.

So, does anyone have pictures of the piping?
Daaaaamn! I guess the Stillen SC isn't such a rip, however you can get the SC alone from Vortech for $1600-1800.

Is the rest of the kit minus the Stillen label really worth the extra $2K?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Daaaaamn! I guess the Stillen SC isn't such a rip, however you can get the SC alone from Vortech for $1600-1800.

Is the rest of the kit minus the Stillen label really worth the extra $2K?
Maybe... it really depends if you want to spend the time and energy doing the custom piping. In the SC's case, no. I'd rather pay more and make my life easier.

Makes you second guess if you really want to turbo your car or not, huh?

Forgot to mention colder plugs and oil cooler (optional).

Ponder my friend...
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 02:27 PM
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Does that say??

Pic #2 - does that say stock 2k max at 190hp? I thought it was 222?! Am I mistaken...or the magazine?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 02:31 PM
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Re: Does that say??

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Pic #2 - does that say stock 2k max at 190hp? I thought it was 222?! Am I mistaken...or the magazine?
That's correct if you measure at the wheels (which they did). So 222 X 0.86 (because the car looses 14% in the process of transferring energy from crank to wheels) = 190-ish.
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Forgive my ignorance but...

...is 14% a standard figure or specific to the 2K Max? Let this be my new thing to learn for the day.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 02:55 PM
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Re: Forgive my ignorance but...

Originally posted by thorizeen
...is 14% a standard figure or specific to the 2K Max? Let this be my new thing to learn for the day.
Specific to the Max... the percentage varies between cars, but that seems to be the average. Autos suffer more because they're around 25% loss.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 02:59 PM
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Ouch! Let me get this straight - 14% for the 5-speed 2K and a whopping (is it whopping? I have nothing to compare to) 25% for auto 2K? Thanks, Kev. You have a plethora of knowledge. I'd hate to play you in Trivial Pursuit.
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Originally posted by thorizeen
Ouch! Let me get this straight - 14% for the 5-speed 2K and a whopping (is it whopping? I have nothing to compare to) 25% for auto 2K? Thanks, Kev. You have a plethora of knowledge. I'd hate to play you in Trivial Pursuit.
More or less, those are the numbers.

My knowledge is only limited and does not come close to some other Maxima members.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 03:14 PM
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The stillen SC is a super good deal; at least it was proven to be very reliable....... I think!


But I see no point why people would super charge a Maxima without a differential. Doesn't all the power get wasted at only one wheel?
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The 25% drivetrain loss for auto trannys seems to be pretty consistent for other cars also. For example, the Accord V6 (auto only) is rated at 200 hp....dyno numbers show 150-155 hp at the wheels, ie, around 20-25% drivetrain loss....
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 05:46 PM
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Since there is so much loss in the drivetrain, why aren't horsepower and torque rated at the wheels in the first place? This is another reason not to get a slushbox.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by beaglemax
Since there is so much loss in the drivetrain, why aren't horsepower and torque rated at the wheels in the first place? This is another reason not to get a slushbox.
You can increase the efficiency by getting a better torque converter.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


You can increase the efficiency by getting a better torque converter.
Is it for sure that the 25% is on all Maxima? Is it accurate that its 25%?

Where can you get "Better" torque converter?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by LoveSick


Is it for sure that the 25% is on all Maxima? Is it accurate that its 25%?

Where can you get "Better" torque converter?
For autos, that seems to be the number.

You can get a new TC by looking at the parts list. Just because you think I'm mad at you, I'm going to make you do some work.
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But I see no point why people would super charge a Maxima without a differential. Doesn't all the power get wasted at only one wheel?
wouldn't this only be the case in tight corners?
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