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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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OK im in a bit of a pinch... I got a ticket for tinted windows, and im fighting it. (for all of you that are going to preach to me "dont do the time if you cant do the crime" crap i dont wanna hear it, but im sure ill see those responses anyway so come up with a good one). I need a few pictures of a grey lustre 5th gen WITHOUT tint. if you are willing to help my cause please PM me or drop me an email at SLEOTTA@GMAIL.COM I would appreciate any help you all can give me. ill let you know how the court case goes.

Any of you that are interested the officer didnt bother to use a tint meter nor did he have the courtesy to acknowledge my uncles retired sergent badge in my wallet AND he didnt bother to tell me that i was getting tickets for the tints. thats the reason im fighting it and not biting the bullet and paying it. PLUS he gave me individual tickets for all four side windows and nothing for the rear thankfully.

Any help would be greatly appreciated
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:19 AM
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i got them on my car domain page bro. let me know if these pics are good, and if they are, i can send you the originals off my computer at home.







unfortunately, you can see the temp tag in the last 2 pics
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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go to my cardomain page....the link is in my signiture
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Your reasons for fighting the ticket are crap.

The only chance you have is to remove the tint and go to court and say "he didn't use a meter, go outside right now and test it."

You carry your retired uncle's badge? You're lucky he didn't arrest you for it.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:53 AM
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kev is pretty much right. i mean, i have had tint on all my cars, and ive gotten tickets on a few of them, i think its $44 here in NJ. i never fought any of them cuz i am just blatantly in the wrong. the cop knows you intentionally put the tint on the windows, and i know he knows, and he knows i know, so i just pay the fine. ive never had a tint meter used either, but basically NJ is any aftermarket tint on the front 2 windows is illegal, all the rest can be dark as you want, so its simple. your probably better off just paying the ticket, and not incurring the court costs.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:55 AM
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Wow, a ticket per window! Sounds like someone pissed on his donuts that day Just wondering, when he stopped you, were you polite to the guy, or were you being a d1ck? In Florida it would have been one $46 ticket.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Frankly I would not remove the tint luckily I live in Atlanta and they have just thrown out the tint law. I have had illegal windows since I was able to drive and no trouble yet. However I would fight it, if you show pics of a max without any tint they might ask for a receipt showing you had it removed. Unless you say you did it your self. I wouldn't even bother doing that. If you have a legit reason for the tint then you should get out of the ticket. If you have a system in the car or valuables in the car, the tint is a way to protect them. If someone can see into the car then it gets broken into. Try that!
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by hakimis
If you have a legit reason ...
The only legit reason is medical and he'd have to get a waiver from a doctor. If you walk in and say "I've got stuff in my car I don't want stolen" the judge is going to say "so you're admitting you have tinted windows? Guilty." and have to pay the fine PLUS court costs.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Oh ok, I've never had a problem but then again my name is on my plate. I think it helps that I'm a girl. I was actually told that by a cop. I fortunately know many of them.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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just to let everyone know, i also have a buddy of mine that works at an audio/ tint shop. he is goign to make up a reciept saying i paid to have it removed. thanks for the help and if anyone else has pictures i coudl use please post em or email me... THANKS!!!
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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........that's some friend. He's risking getting in trouble and you're risking contempt for lying to the court. When I was in court for a speeding ticket there was a kid there for no front plate. He said he fixed it and the judge asked the bailiff to go outside and look at the car.

Let us know what happens......... when you get out of jail
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:32 AM
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you think im dumb enough to bring the car there?
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Yeah good luck with that. If you get caught lying, your up **** creek. I would be very careful about what I say. Just pay the fine and be done with it.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Wow, you guys in the mainland are lucky....$45 tint tickets. I know a few years back, our tint tickets were $80. I know of numerous friends who've received 6 tickets at one time for tint. Isn't that crazy?!? I've also heard a rumor that it's going up to a $500 fine now!!! Anybody else want to move to Hawaii?
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:19 AM
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sleotta, good luck! There is a legal tint level in NY so if he didnt use a meter he dosent have a case. simple! If it is like a headlight ticket you have 24 hours to get it fixed bring it to the station and show proof, have an officier sign off on it. You are allowed limo behind the Driver's seat, so how did you get 4 tickets, at least that is what I am told. Plus there are about 1 million people in NY with blacked out windows, why you?
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by sleotta
you think im dumb enough to bring the car there?
I don't know you.


From my experience, they wouldn't pass that kid's front plate without inspecting the car. I wouldn't be surprised if the judge continues it without a finding until an officer inspects your car.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by emhc1999
sleotta, good luck! There is a legal tint level in NY so if he didnt use a meter he dosent have a case. .... You are allowed limo behind the Driver's seat, so how did you get 4 tickets, at least that is what I am told.
So this is wrong?
http://home.pcisys.net/~bpc/auto_law/tint/

New York
NO / NO/ NO/ NO / 1993

Note : Very strict law. Replacement glass that is tinted is allowed if and only if the original windows were tinted as well. Medical exemption is provided for with permission from Commisioner of Motor Vehicles.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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2k2kev, I believe it is wrong I will look into it.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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In CT if the officer doesn't have a light meter they will give you an inspection sticker, meaning you must go to the dmv and get it tested within 2 weeks or your registration is suspended. You must have the dmv sign off on it, can't just go in there and say "I got it fixed". Well anyway, good luck
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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This is off the New York State Motor Vehicle website. allows 30%, and law does not apply to rear windows (if you have side view mirrors).

Section 375 (12-a) of the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law does not allow a windshield or front side windows that are dark. The windshield and front side windows cannot block more than 30% of the light. Seventy percent or more of the light from the outside must pass through the window. This law also applies to rear windows unless the vehicle has outside rear-view mirrors on both sides. The mirrors must give the driver a full and clear view behind the vehicle.

It is illegal to sell, offer for sale, or install glass that does not comply with this law. It is illegal to operate a vehicle with glass that does not comply with this law.

If a medical condition requires a person to have tinted vehicle windows, they can request an exemption from the law. Request form MV-80W from a DMV Office or Call Center.

http://fornax.dmv.state.ny.us/script...YWdlPTE*&p_li=
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 11:49 AM
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From another site:
http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/ny/

Sticker Requirements:
The sticker to identify legal tinting is required between the film & glass on each tinted window.

Basically, good luck and bring your checkbook
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
From another site:
http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/ny/

Sticker Requirements:
The sticker to identify legal tinting is required between the film & glass on each tinted window.

Basically, good luck and bring your checkbook

why is it that most peopkle are willing to help me out and you are bent on me having to pay. i dont expect much but im gonna try because the dude was a jack off to me... i am ALWAYS respectful to officers. especially when i know i did something wrong. also... i had JUST left an inspection station and they didnt even mention the tint on the windows, they are supposed to inform you of any equipment that is incorrect before approoving an inspection
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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a couple of years ago i got a ticket for tint in atlanta and they just told me to have it removed by the time i got to court. i did the same thing ur thinking about and it worked out fine for me. just took a couple of pictures of my friend's maxima and the ticket was dropped. they recently threw out the tint law here and i switched from 20% to 5% all around. hopefully everything works out for ya.
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sleotta
why is it that most peopkle are willing to help me out and you are bent on me having to pay.
Because you broke the law (and knew it) and I'm being realistic...you think you should get away with breaking the law because the cop didn't kiss your ***....too bad, you broke the law.

Also, I am helping you out...I'm keeping you from thinking you're going to win and reminding you to bring your checkbook.
i had JUST left an inspection station and they didnt even mention the tint on the windows, they are supposed to inform you of any equipment that is incorrect before approoving an inspection
No, they aren't. NY doesn't check tint as part of the inspection. They are only required to inform you of any equipment that is part of the inspection.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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I'd send you pics of my grey Maxima, but my windows were already tinted when I bought it. Isn't factory tint an option on the Maxima? If so, how much darker are you than the factory available tint job?
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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I'd send you pics of my grey Maxima, but my windows were already tinted when I bought it. Isn't factory tint an option on the Maxima?
...not an option, every maxima comes with factory tint but it's like 90%.

I'd send mine, too, but my windows are also tinted
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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dude im in staten islnd, and ive been through the same thing, they never use the meater to measure the tint, they are "trained", serously just pay it and be thankfull u didnt get one for each window
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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anyone know the laws in texas--or have a link
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 01:40 PM
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http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/tx
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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damn that sucks. I have had my windows basically blacked out (5% on top of a 15%), and have never been ticketed. Even been stopped for other reasons numerous times and they never said a word.

Move to Florida.. No inspections, No theft (not even headlights)not in the panhandle at least, and they don't give you a hard time about stupid crap
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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if ur gonna take a pic, dont use a digicam

use a camera that prints a date out on the photo itself, or on the back of the photo

what were u planning to do with an internet photo? upload it to ur computer and print it out?

and just curious...what will u say when the judge asks why u avoided an officer's inspection and didn't bring ur car?

make sure u think of all this otherwise u can be in a heap of trouble
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sleotta
why is it that most peopkle are willing to help me out and you are bent on me having to pay. i dont expect much but im gonna try because the dude was a jack off to me... i am ALWAYS respectful to officers. especially when i know i did something wrong. also... i had JUST left an inspection station and they didnt even mention the tint on the windows, they are supposed to inform you of any equipment that is incorrect before approoving an inspection
Respecting the cop is expected, breaking the law isn't. If they let you get away with it then everybody would get away with it (same with speeding). The law is blind to justification beyond special exceptions that correspond to that particular law (such as the medical exception). Nobody here can help you convince a judge to throw out the law and he doesn't have the power to do so anyway. It is assumed that by having your license you have read all DOT laws and regulations and agreed to abide by them. You basically agreed to abide by them as long as they didn't apply to you?(See anything wrong with this way of thinking?)I thought in the same manner you do until I began to study law in college. After educating yourself on laws, how they work, and why they are there you would not be asking this question. Basically, society needs rules to function, you broke a rule and you must pay. The tinting law exists for a number of reasons. One would be so a police officer can identify the contents of the vehicle ESPECIALLY in an exigent (or emergency) situation. If you were to be lying dead in your car and you windows were so tinted they could not see clearly into it nobody would be able to help you.

End lesson. There arre reasons for the law but you feel keeping a few bucks and having dark windows outweighs all the good parts of this law.

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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Blk2kMAXSE
a couple of years ago i got a ticket for tint in atlanta and they just told me to have it removed by the time i got to court. i did the same thing ur thinking about and it worked out fine for me. just took a couple of pictures of my friend's maxima and the ticket was dropped. they recently threw out the tint law here and i switched from 20% to 5% all around. hopefully everything works out for ya.
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No tint law? That's great news for you who live there.....too bad there still is one in NJ.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:34 PM
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Man I would help you out, but I don't have any photos of my car without tint since it was the first mod I did.
Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by KashThaRipper
if ur gonna take a pic, dont use a digicam

use a camera that prints a date out on the photo itself, or on the back of the photo

what were u planning to do with an internet photo? upload it to ur computer and print it out?

and just curious...what will u say when the judge asks why u avoided an officer's inspection and didn't bring ur car?

make sure u think of all this otherwise u can be in a heap of trouble
since i will be going to court during working hours and i am going to go to work directly after court i plan to take a work vehicle to court. if they ask i will tell them i am currrently on the clock but my boss allowed me to leave with a work vehicle because i will directly be returning to work. also i work in manhattan and will be going to court on staten island.

as for the internet photo... i have a friend that owns a photo lab. he will be sure the pics look auhentic and are printed on photo paper.

i really am going through alot to fight this but again the dude was a *****, normally id bite the bullet and pay. he pulled me over for a stopsign that he claims i went though. i disagree, also he didnt inform me of what he would be siting me for except the stopsign. when he returned and handed me all my paperwork and the folded tickets, he was already inhis car and pulling away before i even unfolded the tickets and realizzed there were three tickets there 1 for the stop sign, one for the front set of windows one for the back set. NONE of which did he check with a tint meter. i am annoyed at this cop because he didnt treat me with the respect that i treated him with, he didnt even acknowledge the retirede sergeants badge that i was given (not an actual badge for all of you that need me to be EXTREMELY SPECIFIC, but a smaller badge to show i have family on the job) and the fact that i have an impeccable driving record that i do not wish to have tarnished with this stop sign ticket. thank you for the help of those that support me in my RIGHT TO ARGUE MY CASE (MDLOOPS... maybe you can appreciate that mr law student) if the officer did not follow the proper procedure in ticketing me why should i just give up?
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 05:40 AM
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if the officer did not follow the proper procedure in ticketing me why should i just give up?
Exactly what "proper procedure" did he not follow besides not using a meter? You ran a stop sign and he got you. Your windows are tinted and he got you. Two of the tickets are bogus (the rears) but two are fully justified (the fronts)...he wouldn't need to use a meter to know the fronts are illegal.
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My fiance got busted with 5% on his windows in his silverado, and heres a tip ... its better to just pay it and deal with it .... The reason is because its the police. All they have to say is "You don't have your car here?, Ok, well, we will just have an officer go home with you and make sure" or something along that line, you know what I mean. Its not that high of a ticket compared to the jail time and fines, probation, criminal record that you will get if you get caught being a liar to the judge.

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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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I totally respect your consitutional right to fight an unjust accusation. The badge thing is really getting on my nerves and you need to grow up. I am ACTIVE DUTY MILITARY currently and have been mobilized from home for 1 1/2 years. I have currently served a year and I don't expect any special treatment. You feel you are entitled to some kind of sanctity because your uncle was a cop. Who cares! You obviously carry it around to show off and if I was a cop I would give you a ticket just for carrying it around. The efforts you are going through show your total disrespect for the law and that I do not agree with. Let's get this straight.

1)I broke the law
2)I shouldn't have to abide by the same laws as everybody else because my uncle was a cop
3)I should be treated with the utmost respect for breaking multiple traffic laws
4)I will make up as many lies to the judge (the enforcer of the law) so that I don't have to pay
5)I was not treated with respect
6)My windows are completely against the law and even though any fool can tell that a trained officer who deals with people like me everyday has no clue what he is talking about. He needs a shaded piece of paper to tell.

I want to help you man but I do not agree with what you are doing. What are you going to say if the judge holds you in contempt for the lies you told to him? What is there to fight? You were 100% WRONG and you must take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. This is part of being a man. Now take responsibility and pay the ticket. A mature adult does not sit there and lie to the judge so he can get out of being punished, a child does that.

Just "take it like a man" You will feel better in the long run. I have been there and learned my lesson. You will feel better about yourself if you are truthful. Tell the judge you were wong and will pay the fine but you did not appreciate the way you were treated by "fill in cop name".

Good luck to you,

Mark
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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i got them on my car domain page bro. let me know if these pics are good, and if they are, i can send you the originals off my computer at home.







unfortunately, you can see the temp tag in the last 2 pics
KCMC582, damn, i never knew gray lustre could ever look this good. What did you use to make your max look so shiny and new or maybe the sunlight has something to do with it.


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