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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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for those who have CAI

i wanted to get the PR CAI from the group deal, but why do you have to drill a hole on this one? injen doesnt require drilling. so is there any performance differences between these two? does it really matter where the filter is located at? as long as its away from engine bay? for the price of PR CAI, you cant go wrong... which one would you rather have? PR CAI on GD for 134 shipped and drill a hole? and the INJEN one is 251 shippied with no drilling, at custom maxima.
cmon guys i need your input on this one
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:36 PM
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go with the place racing CAI!!! I just bought mine from the group deal just waiting to receive it. I think this one is better because with the Injen CAI the filter is still in the engine bay where the temperature of the air is higher. With the PR CAI the air coming into the engine is coming from outside the engine bay. The Injen CAI is probably just as good though if you dont do much city driving but when you drive in the city with a lot of traffic I think the PR cai would get better performance. Im kinda scared of drilling a whole too but I might try the intake as a WAI first then change to the CAI in the spring.
Old Dec 11, 2004 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by chun
i wanted to get the PR CAI from the group deal, but why do you have to drill a hole on this one? injen doesnt require drilling. so is there any performance differences between these two? does it really matter where the filter is located at? as long as its away from engine bay? for the price of PR CAI, you cant go wrong... which one would you rather have? PR CAI on GD for 134 shipped and drill a hole? and the INJEN one is 251 shippied with no drilling, at custom maxima.
cmon guys i need your input on this one
thanks alot fellow .orgers
you dont have to make a hole with the Injen cause it isnt really a CAI (regardless of what some delusional people claim).
it does matter where the filter sits because that determines the temp of the air it is drawing in. being "away" from the engine does not automatically guaruntee that. the Injen sits in a location where it gets the warm air that the fan blows. the PR one is drawing colder air from the front of the car. drilling puts it in a location that isolates it from the engine bay and warm air. people buy the Injen cause it looks sweet, they fall for the hype, and want the "name"
IMO its best to do just do the GAB. free to do (+ $40 for K&N drop in filter) even the PR doesnt give subtatially more performance.
Old Dec 11, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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you dont have to make a hole with the Injen cause it isnt really a CAI (regardless of what some delusional people claim).
it does matter where the filter sits because that determines the temp of the air it is drawing in. being "away" from the engine does not automatically guaruntee that. the Injen sits in a location where it gets the warm air that the fan blows. the PR one is drawing colder air from the front of the car. drilling puts it in a location that isolates it from the engine bay and warm air. people buy the Injen cause it looks sweet, they fall for the hype, and want the "name"
IMO its best to do just do the GAB. free to do (+ $40 for K&N drop in filter) even the PR doesnt give subtatially more performance.
How many intakes have you tried??? I've tried the GAB, frankencar, and injen. The GAB was ok but to me, but it wasn't as good as the frankencar too me. The FC sounds great but drinks too much gas, and produce's less power after 2-4 hour of city driving(after the car is hot).

The injen is what I'am left with, and I'am very happy with it. It doesn't feel as powerful as the FC, but it sounds cleaner, gets better mpg, and great for long trips. Real nice on the highway!!! I once took it for a 2-hour drive, and I stop to open the hood, and I place my hand on the injen, and it was still very cold. The FC would never do this!!!

Who do you know has the injen, and got it just for hype????
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 02:36 AM
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thanks guys, im gonnago with the PR cuz its cheapr and what sooner fan said, i agree....thanks..
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:03 AM
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being "away" from the engine does not automatically guaruntee that. the Injen sits in a location where it gets the warm air that the fan blows.
Then you had it in wrong, or the one you saw was installed incorrectly.

The filter on mine does NOT sit behind the fan. Whoever installed it (unless you've actually never seen one and are just guessing or talking out your ***) needs to turn the lower tube so the filter sits under the battery.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by chun
thanks guys, im gonnago with the PR cuz its cheapr and what sooner fan said, i agree....thanks..
It's a real treat that the PR is cheaper than the Injen Usually it was the other way around I think

That said, I love my PR CAI. I've become used to the sound, and the high-end torque is unmistakable. I always felt like the stock intake was restricting me in some way. Then again, I haven't had a properly-working VIAS until after I've had the PR CAI installed, so I don't know for sure. (this doesn't apply to 2k2-2k3s AFAIK)
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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so you can actaully notice the performance gains on an CAI?
i heard about intakes making our MAF go bad, does this apply to all maximas? or just certain years? this is my first maxima, so i dont have much experience in maximas.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2kMike
i always thought that the intakes that are right by the engine bay are almost point less.
You mean like warpspeed's?
...there is more air pressure under the car ...
Really! </sarcasm>



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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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I think your comments were a little extreme KEV... I know it must be uplifting to put down an 18 year old huh? Poor self esteem kev? Want to talk, or do you need a hug?
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mdloops
I think your comments were a little extreme KEV... I know it must be uplifting to put down an 18 year old huh? Poor self esteem kev? Want to talk, or do you need a hug?
i agree. that post was a waste of bandwith as is my post.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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I paid 170 for my injen, so look around if you don't want to cut a 3' inch hole in your max. In which in a 1 or 2 years it will rust if not primed and painted on the hole edges.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mdloops
I think your comments were a little extreme KEV... I know it must be uplifting to put down an 18 year old huh? Poor self esteem kev? Want to talk, or do you need a hug?
Originally Posted by Gsilk
i agree. that post was a waste of bandwith as is my post.
For ease of posting I'll just call you both Mo&Ron, how was it extreme? Most 18yo think they're smart...it's better to set them straight early than let them go on thinking it.

Now, back to what I posted...

1. warpspeed's intake sits in the engine bay...how is my comment about that "extreme"?

2. there is more air pressure under a car... and INDY car maybe but not a maxima. And if there is, it's insignificant. And if it is signficant, someone would have to make an intake that sits *in* the space under the car to take advantage of it...having it just in the engine bay or even close the bottom of the would do nothing. How is my comment about that "extreme"?

3. we all know what a stock 2000 Charcoal Gray se maxima looks like, so how is my comment about that "extreme"?

Just for you, silk, if you think that post owned me you need a formal welcoming to teh interweb. I taught 3rd-graders who could do better than that, my friend.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Injen is not a true CAI. It sucks all that hot air from the radiator.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Injen is not a true CAI. It sucks all that hot air from the radiator.
You and I have gone through this before and you're wrong this time, too.

If the filter is behind the radiator then the intake is installed wrong. My filter is under the battery, NOT in-line with the radiator fan.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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My problem with the Ingen is the fact that it is so close to the ground. It seems like the filter would get dirty and torn up pretty easy.

I like the fact that the PR draws air from a protected location outside of the engine compartment.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by NewLoveI30
My problem with the Ingen is the fact that it is so close to the ground. It seems like the filter would get dirty and torn up pretty easy.

I like the fact that the PR draws air from a protected location outside of the engine compartment.
There's a splash shield between it and the ground... doesn't get any more dirty than the bottom of my battery (and that's not dirty)... and I like the fact that i didn't have to cut a hole in my car to install it.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
You and I have gone through this before and you're wrong this time, too.

If the filter is behind the radiator then the intake is installed wrong. My filter is under the battery, NOT in-line with the radiator fan.
i never said it was behind the fan...i said "Injen sits in a location where it gets the warm air that the fan blows."
the fan blows the air to the sides and down...right where the injen is. the only way to get cold air is to isolate the intake away from any engine bay heat.
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Originally Posted by Ammi
Injen is not a true CAI. It sucks all that hot air from the radiator.
at least someone else is smart enough to realize this.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
i never said it was behind the fan...i said "Injen sits in a location where it gets the warm air that the fan blows."
the fan blows the air to the sides and down...right where the injen is. the only way to get cold air is to isolate the intake away from any engine bay heat.
.. I installed it, I know where it's getting air, and I know there is no way air is being directed from the fan down to the intake filter... it would have to leave the fan and go FORWARD back toward the front of the car, and I doubt that's happening when the car is moving.
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.. I installed it, I know where it's getting air, and I know there is no way air is being directed from the fan down to the intake filter... it would have to leave the fan and go FORWARD back toward the front of the car, and I doubt that's happening when the car is moving.
well you just proved that you dont know anything.
you intake is in front of the fan and radiator?
the fan blows towards the back of the car..towards the engine!! its sucking all the heat from the radiator (which is in front of the fan by the way) the fans blow the heat back and down to get it out of the engine bay. drive your car till it heats up and the fan comes on. park, leave the car on, get out, close the door, and stand right by your mirror. you will feel hot @ss air blowing on your feet. and guess whats between the fanand your feet?? you guessed it...your overpriced WAI
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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im selling my pr cai that i bought from the groupd deal. i have never used it, and i wont because i dont want to drill a hole in my car. it is blue, and i also have the cleaning solution i had to pay extra for. PM me if you are interested.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Chun, do what makes you happy. I have an Injen and love it. The sound is awesome at WOT. I did not go with the PR CAI b/c I did not want to drill a hole in my car.
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
well you just proved that you dont know anything.
you intake is in front of the fan and radiator?
...and you just proved you have no idea what you're talking about. There's a black plastic shroud the covers the back of the radiator and goes from square (at the radiator) to round (at the fan). Looking straight down the gap behind the radiator, the back-most part of that shroud is even with the back of the filter, so unless air is coming in through the fan then taking a 180 degree right-hand turn it's not being directed in the filter.

If the car is moving it's getting air cooler than an intake that's in the engine bay.
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
You and I have gone through this before and you're wrong this time, too.

If the filter is behind the radiator then the intake is installed wrong. My filter is under the battery, NOT in-line with the radiator fan.
Kev is right, the injen filter is about 5-7' inchs away from the radiator. Some of you guyz have it wrong, take alook at someone's car first before getting any ideas. Lets not start another stupied intake war, and besides it will all come down to what you like, what you want, and what you would like to spend. It's your life, use it well!!!
Old Dec 12, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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Go with the PR CAI! It is the best intake for the max. There is a definate gain in high end power. I felt it the first time I opened it up. People have all sorts of mixed opinions on all the other intakes but I think most people like the PR. Don't worry about any of the other stuff. Best thing you can do is just order it and never look back!


Originally Posted by 2k2kev
For ease of posting I'll just call you both Mo&Ron, how was it extreme? Most 18yo think they're smart...it's better to set them straight early than let them go on thinking it.
Funny. This guy is really out there huh? Oh and learn english grammer. Your sentences are not even close to being correct. You taught 3rd graders? Alright Chester the ........ Your sentence should read:"For THE ease of posting I'll just call you both morons.(there is an s because you are talking about 2 people)Was that extreme? etc.....

Stop bashing 20 people on this post you *****!

At least you taught kids who were on the same educational level as you.

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can someone close this thread? these guys are fighting over nothing, and its not going anywhere. and for those of you who answered my questions thanks, like i said earlier, i am going to get the PR CAI, thats it its done....
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Turned into the average intake thread
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Turned into the average intake thread
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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Turned into the average intake thread
first thing we agree on.
Originally Posted by mdloops
Funny. This guy is really out there huh? Oh and learn english grammer.
Since I was calling them Mo & Ron the grammar is perfect.

BTW, it's grammAr, fukctard.
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
You and I have gone through this before and you're wrong this time, too.

If the filter is behind the radiator then the intake is installed wrong. My filter is under the battery, NOT in-line with the radiator fan.
We have? If I can replace axles and do turbo swaps at home, I think I'll know how to install a WAI. Tried out pretty much all the CAI except PR.

All that hot air from radiator is blown "into" the engine bay.

Only true CAI for our cars is PR
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Ammi
All that hot air from radiator is blown "into" the engine bay.

Only true CAI for our cars is PR
I'll agree with all that, but you said it "sucks all that hot air from the radiator" and that's what I disagree with. I've tried to get pictures and it's too tight to get a picture that shows it, but the filter sits off to the side and below the fan. At any speed the filter is getting air cooler than the engine bay.
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 2k2kev
I'll agree with all that, but you said it "sucks all that hot air from the radiator" and that's what I disagree with. I've tried to get pictures and it's too tight to get a picture that shows it, but the filter sits off to the side and below the fan. At any speed the filter is getting air cooler than the engine bay.
Ok so it's getting both cool air and warm air. Therefore, injen is not a true CAI.
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Ok so it's getting both cool air and warm air. Therefore, injen is not a true CAI.
I never said it was a "true CAI", I just said it's getting cooler air than an engine bay intake and it's not sucking in air from the radiator fan.
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first thing we agree on.Since I was calling them Mo & Ron the grammar is perfect.

BTW, it's grammAr, fukctard.
didn't your mommy ever tell you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." quit acting like you are the Almighty King of the forums. sheesh.
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didn't your mommy ever tell you "if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." quit acting like you are the Almighty King of the forums. sheesh.
....and the thread continues to spiral downhill....

Didn't your mommy ever tell you if you don't know **** don't post? Stick to LEDs, at least when you screw up that advice it doesn't cost people a lot of money,
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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I was reluctant to drill the hole for the PR but ultimately did it anyway. If you decide to remove the PR you won't really be able to tell the hole is there unless someone was looking for it - they just wouldn't see it with the stock airbox etc installed.

From everything I've read over the years, I think we are dealing with a relatively small difference in performance among the intakes so that personal preference ought to be your guide. If you don't want to drill, it's not like you are losing that much HP.

IMO the injen filter will get dirtier in the engine compartment than the PR in the wheel well - BUT that is offset by the fact that it is easier to see when it needs cleaning and to actually clean it.

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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Ah yes... another intake thread down the pooper...

IBTL maybe?
Old Dec 13, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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funny how you guys are arguing over which intake will give you a 1 HP increase. But if it sucks cold air your car will have 2 extra horses which will help us all on the final stretch to victory in Nascar. Stupid intake thread. I got a PRCAI and don't buy an intake for the power increase because it is so minimal it is not worth the money.
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Originally Posted by mdloops
funny how you guys are arguing over which intake will give you a 1 HP increase. But if it sucks cold air your car will have 2 extra horses which will help us all on the final stretch to victory in Nascar. Stupid intake thread. I got a PRCAI and don't buy an intake for the power increase because it is so minimal it is not worth the money.
Every post I've made on intakes has all said the same thing... If it's your only mod (not in combination with exhaust, etc) then there are no noticeable gains and it's mostly for sound.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=276932
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=257973
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=213217

... I could list 10 more if you want but I doubt you'll read even those 3. If you bother to read, I've been extremely consistent in what I've said about injen and intakes in general.



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