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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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00 3.0 vs 02 3.5

I am debating between the 00 maxima and the 02 maxima with the 3.5
what are some of the pros and cons on them?

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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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One is slow, the other is fast.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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Oh boy... here we go again...

Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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I know we are talking about the 222 vs 255
is the 02 that muxh better...
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:58 AM
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Well since it's your $ and not ours, how about at least driving one of both first.

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I know we are talking about the 222 vs 255
is the 02 that muxh better...
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
One is slow, the other is fast.
AHEM what Jeff92se REALLY means is that one is fast, the other one is not as fast.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
One is slow, the other is fast.
Uhhhh that one hurt....... still I'm your Daddy.. hehehehehehe, and Opps where is your tranny??? Bad too bad.

Nahh the difference is big on the engine bay.. If I were you and have the money, I will go with the 3.5, its the engine that Nissan is supporting right now and you can do great upgrades from the Z - G35 etc...... on the 3.0 well it worked well for how many years 20 I think but Nissan needed to move on........ It is your choice
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:05 AM
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i test drive the 02 and it feels good...
but they didn't have the 00 for me to drive..
and othe then the power what are someof the diff between the 00 and 02?
how reliable are the 3.5 engine?
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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There are a few cosmetic differences in the 02-03 as opposed to the 00-01...and I think you can get the 02-03 with a navigation system...zenon headlights available on the 02-03 and not the 00-01....other than that,I dunno.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Turning radius on the 00-01's is slightly smaller than the 02-03's. 35.4 ft vs. 40 ft.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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how reliable are the 3.5 engine?
Nissan has been using the 3.5 just for couple years. The reliability of the 3.5 is unknow. Wait for another 5 years to see what happen.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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i would def go with the 02 the engine is way better my friend has an 00 with mods and i drove it a few weeks ago and it doesnt even come close to my 03 if you have the money get the 02 you will not regret it.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by frankd121
Turning radius on the 00-01's is slightly smaller than the 02-03's. 35.4 ft vs. 40 ft.

I don't know about this. I think you might mean the difference between the 16s and 17s. I've never driven a car with as large turning circle as my car and it's due to the wheels and bump stops from what I recall on past threads.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by frankd121
Turning radius on the 00-01's is slightly smaller than the 02-03's. 35.4 ft vs. 40 ft.
That only applies to 15-16" models vs. 17" models.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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what is the 02 usually goes for...
i went to the dealer and they want 17,500 for an 02 with 60k+ on it
but it has moonroof, xenon headlight....
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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That's too much. Any options? HIDs are standard. Let's put it this way...I purchased my 02 6MT from a Nissan dealership in June with 60k for under $13k. No leather, no sunroof, and no Bose. I'm getting aftermarket leather in the spring, and I replaced the headunit and added navigation. And I'll still be under that $17,500 price tag that you got quoted.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by casper980
what is the 02 usually goes for...
i went to the dealer and they want 17,500 for an 02 with 60k+ on it
but it has moonroof, xenon headlight....
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Check NADA or kelly blue book for prices that you should be seeing for these model years.
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yeah i got my 03 a few months ago and i only paid 15 for it. it def sounds like someones trying to rip you off.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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The price that he can get is determined how well he researches and how well he negotiates. I sort of hate to see people say "that is too much/little etc.." as he is limited to where he lives.

What he should do is effin' research and find the best deal vs asking everyone to do it for him. Nada/Edmunds/autotrader/carfax and good old fashion tire kicking.

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yeah i got my 03 a few months ago and i only paid 15 for it. it def sounds like someones trying to rip you off.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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if you want performance go with the 3.5. If you want enough power to get around traffic just go with the 3.0L. If you don't mind having a car that would get stomped by a newer mustang GT go with the 3.0L. Really simple. That extra horse means a lot. There are like 500 variables man. If you want a newer more reliable car then buy a newer car.

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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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I have an '01 AE, and I wish I had gotten and '02. Don't get me wrong, the '01 is great for what I use it for (primarily highway driving) but I know that as much as I like the '01, the '02 has THAT much more power. :-/
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:58 PM
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I would bargain hard for the 02. You'll get better resale with the newer toys, i.e. HID's. I'm not sure if the 00 has a trip computer and steering wheel radio controls, but I like them. The 02 also comes in a 6 speed tranny, if you are partial to performance. There are plenty of 02-03's out there so a good deal is where you make it. Don't back down.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by casper980
what is the 02 usually goes for...
i went to the dealer and they want 17,500 for an 02 with 60k+ on it
but it has moonroof, xenon headlight....
OMG! Is your dealer ran by "Prince or Princess of Nigeria"?? (for these who don't know, it's the name used by a now very well-known group of con artists...) 17,500 is just out of the roof! try 13,000 to 14,500 for an 02-03 with around 40K miles. Take your time and check out the classified forum, many yummy deals there, just do your best to make the deal local so you can get a feel of the car in person. it's also good to keep it local so you know whom to look for if things ever went wrong (yeh yeh... i know ORGie people are good folks, but Prince of Nigeria wears many masks, haa haa!) Good luck in your quest to be a MAX rider.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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OMG! Is your dealer ran by "Prince or Princess of Nigeria"?? (for these who don't know, it's the name used by a now very well-known group of con artists...) 17,500 is just out of the roof! try 13,000 to 14,500 for an 02-03 with around 40K miles. Take your time and check out the classified forum, many yummy deals there, just do your best to make the deal local so you can get a feel of the car in person. it's also good to keep it local so you know whom to look for if things ever went wrong (yeh yeh... i know ORGie people are good folks, but Prince of Nigeria wears many masks, haa haa!) Good luck in your quest to be a MAX rider.
02/03's are 2 different model years and the prices will be different, goodluck on finding an 02/03 at a dealer or person they would be loosing money for that price with 40k miles, 40K miles is alot for an 03 and slightly high for an 02 as far as the mileage standard goes for cars in the car biz. 17,500 retail wouldnt be alot if the 02 had low mileage say 19-30k or so but 60k miles is alot for an 02.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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The price they are asking for the car could change drastically, As a car dealer i know some of the tricks, Are they looking at a trade on this deal? if so they could be higher on their car's price, in order to show you an over allowance for your trade(most trades are coming from people who are "upside down", you know out of equity) or they could be trying to hit a "home run" on you. Dont be afraid to lo-ball the dealer, i have cars on my lot that we ask 18,999 but we could take 12,500 and still make good profits, pm me if you have any specific ?'s
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Originally Posted by mdloops
If you don't mind having a car that would get stomped by a newer mustang GT go with the 3.0L. Mark
psshhh, my 3.0 ran an '02 GT from a 70 to 130 roll and only lost by a car...so not spanked.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
One is slow, the other is fast.
That was as delicate as a bull in a china shop.

But as a sidenote, there really should be a sticky for this subject as it does seem to come up regularly.

My $.02:
- If you're getting an auto, then the 02/03 is a MUCH faster Maxima than the 00/01.
- If you're in an HID theft area (i.e.: Northeast) then get the 00/01 and save yourself some worries.
- If you're not in an HID theft prone area AND like HIDs then the 02/03 is the way to go
- If you want OEM Navi or a 6MT then the 02/03 is the only way to go

Not having driven the 00/01, I cant really say how they feel. But, I can attest to how enjoyable my 02 auto is when you need only apply PT to easily pass most highway traffic. The VQ35DE make it so effortless. Now if only the suspension setup was up to the snuff, then I'd be in business.
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one thing they got in common.. ****ty brakes
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Originally Posted by scopium
one thing they got in common.. ****ty brakes
and crappy tires...
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:00 PM
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and crappy tires...

Didn't I see you guys in the "other cars" forum?
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 06:22 PM
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Didn't I see you guys in the "other cars" forum?
HAHA busted. And my maxima has 17s, so I think the tires are adequate enough for the car's weight, size ETC....I'd have to agree on the ****ty brakes though.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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I would say get the 02/03...of course I'm partial because I own an 03...

And I got mine, an 03 auto, w/ sunroof, etc... for $19k, with 13k miles.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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brakes suck. suspension sucks. tires sucks. tranny is not all that good either. and etc but overall it is a good car. hands down a 2k2-2k3 is the better candidate of the two cars.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ABDomega
Didn't I see you guys in the "other cars" forum?
lol i dont believe so..what other cars?
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if you ever driven a fully decked out 3.0L 5spd with all the mods, then you would really appreciate the smooth power delivery and top end power. I for one don't care for the 3.5Ls, I have eatten enough G35 sedans around my work ( salesmans, or test drive customers trying out cars) vs my 01 GXE 5spd. I consider my car one of a kind- light weight, fuel efficient, extremelly reliable, and low cost to own ratio. 02-up have NASTY tranny issues, all kinds of weird unexplainable engine problems. If you aint going to modify it, then 3.5 is cool. If you are going to mod it, 3.0L hands down. 5spd tranny is smooth. Personally having changed everything on my car from brakes to power, to suspension... I dont care bout the extra .5L, my car still moves HARD. 3.0 is more reliable. With the $$$ saved you can have a nasty 3.0L car vs just a so so 3.5L.
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The QR25DE is better than both.
Old Dec 14, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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not till it burns all the oil out of its crank case, spins 2 rod bearings and throws a rod through the block- QR is a POS ! I reather own a GA16DE
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
if you ever driven a fully decked out 3.0L 5spd with all the mods, then you would really appreciate the smooth power delivery and top end power. I for one don't care for the 3.5Ls, I have eatten enough G35 sedans around my work ( salesmans, or test drive customers trying out cars) vs my 01 GXE 5spd. I consider my car one of a kind- light weight, fuel efficient, extremelly reliable, and low cost to own ratio. 02-up have NASTY tranny issues, all kinds of weird unexplainable engine problems. If you aint going to modify it, then 3.5 is cool. If you are going to mod it, 3.0L hands down. 5spd tranny is smooth. Personally having changed everything on my car from brakes to power, to suspension... I dont care bout the extra .5L, my car still moves HARD. 3.0 is more reliable. With the $$$ saved you can have a nasty 3.0L car vs just a so so 3.5L.

You are 100% right. The 3.0 take to most mods real well rather then the 3.5. Even I had picked on a few stock 3.5 maxima with my car minor bolt-ons. You can also super charge and turbo charge the 3.0 with the available kits ready for purchase. How I see it, get the 2k-2k1 max if you're in to modifying and don't like higher insurance premiums. Everthing is vise versa 3.5 max, the choice is yours.
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The QR25DE is better than both.
Arnold the QR25DE is a POS motor, and and only has a rpm redline of 6100. That really sucks.
Old Dec 15, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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wow. well i like my car.. my head is spunnuung sruoppung .. spinning , car will rev fats no matter whatne n i push the gas i love her so much so so so much. im so happpyu to have heritjt wow i cant reakld what im writing. hlelp me.. thank god i waltked home.



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