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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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ceramic brake pads?

anybody tried these?
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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ya i have axxis ceramic pads and they dust horribly but seem to have bite when i need it but i don't like to get on them too much in order to keep my rotors warped free and my pads cracked free. so far so good for 8k.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 05:46 PM
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they are quiet, but no good for competition.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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I've been using ceramic/copper pads on all 3 of our cars (Honda Accord, My Maxima, and a 95 Talon Turbo). Good street pads, good cold stopping, low dust, and not as hard on rotors as semi met pads (less rotor warping) in my humble opinion.

School of thought these days regarding warped rotors seems to be pointing the finger at the high steel content in semi met pads. They are so harsh on the rotor, they will outlast it. The steel wears some ares of the rotor and deposits on others giving that warped feeling.

Some ceramics have copper instead which gets the heat away but is less harsh on the rotors, so the rotors *should* last longer.
Old Jan 19, 2005 | 09:08 PM
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Ceramic brake pads suck. They can't handle the heat and therefore the heat gets transfered directly to the rotor where it goes to work overheating the rotor and warping it. Go with Performance Friction!
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 03:40 AM
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well thats weird. i have been running ceramics on the front for a year. about 20k, without any probs. minimal dust. as compared to the rear ones. axxiss with slotted/drilled rotors. brake dust is crazy mad...
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Im look for the pad which have the LEAST amount of dust ... so what should I go with
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Read and decide for yourself:

http://www.shotimes.com/brakes/survey/brakes3.html
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Edward Lee
Ceramic brake pads suck. They can't handle the heat and therefore the heat gets transfered directly to the rotor where it goes to work overheating the rotor and warping it. Go with Performance Friction!
Ceramic pads actually dissipate heat better than any other compound available. Most ceramics, and any quality ceramic will also have a high copper content, which wears quickly, however is very easy on the rotor. The higher friction coefficient over traditional organic pads makes them superior. Some high end metallic pads may have a higher coefficient, however they will wear the rotor faster, and often warp due to terrible heat disspation characteristics.
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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I went with ceramic pads not to long ago and I think that they fuking suck. They fade a lot if you are in stop and go traffic, the bite isnt all that great, the only thing that I like about them is that the break dust has been cut down a good bit. Next time I am definitely going back with metal matrix pads.
Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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Ceramic pads do dust less, however, they also do not stop the car as well as other pads. Go with some carbon metallic and get yourself some frozen rotors and all your brake probs will go away.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 03:27 AM
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will frozen rotor cut down on dust
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 07:03 AM
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I have ceramic pads and I love them, less dust and my stopping power is fine for everyday driving. If you don't race use ceramics...
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:17 AM
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Those that are using ceramics should mention what brand you use because I'm sure as with everything else they aren't all created equal and I believe ceramics have some very good qualities and if you've got a good set you should mention them by name so others might be able to get a good set.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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will check them and post. i have run oem, axxiss, ray besteos. cermaics have been the best ones. in the summer i have to wash the rear wheels 3 times a week. fronts barely have any dust on them
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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yeah I want ceramics all the way round
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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I don't quite remember the brand of my ceramics but I bought them from Auto Zone for $49.99 front $49.99 rear. This was about a year ago and they are still working great.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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I believe Auto Zone sells Bendix, but i could be wrong. I am running NAPA Ceramix Pads, they're lifetime guaranteed, and they use the same compounds as stillens Metal Matrix(which is ceramic btw), Axxis, Satisfied, and many others. The pads are manufactured by Dana/Raybestos. Can't beat 'em for the price/quality/warrantee.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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I think the Stillen Metal Matrix was their semi-metallic line? Hence the Metal portion of the name.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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What kind Of pads are the OEM's?
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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What kind Of pads are the OEM's?
Ceramics i believe
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Klutch
Those that are using ceramics should mention what brand you use because I'm sure as with everything else they aren't all created equal and I believe ceramics have some very good qualities and if you've got a good set you should mention them by name so others might be able to get a good set.
I used the Raybestos Ceramic w/ copper. They were $50 from pep boys. If you want copper based pads, be sure to check for that, they will have orangish color specks.

There are other cermics out there that are semi met which were much cheaper. The reason I even wanted the cermics was because they replaced the steel wire in the pad with copper.

So far so good. Dust is low, good stopping power especially cold when you really need it. And this is the longest I've ever gone without warping rotors.

I really beleive that rotor warpage is a big result of the high steel content in semi met pads. FFS, semi met pads were outlasting my rotors because they were so harsh.

I see guys put high perf pads on daily drivers, that's just asking for trouble. They don't bite until they are very hot. If you have to have an emergency stop with normal temps, you will increase the stopping distance. But hey, they work great if you drive like you are in a constant auto-cross.
Old Jan 21, 2005 | 02:05 PM
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according to their print catalog they are ceramic, I can't find anywhere on the net that states their compound, but i'm leaving work so tonite i'll get the print page and try to put it up here for tomorrow. If i can get their exact compound i will but i think they only give you a list of what's in it, but not how much of what, I know they are largely copper, but not sure what else........
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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Frozen rotors will not help with your dust problems. They will, however, never warp on you. I have had mine on for over a year and they are still performing like they did the first day.

As far as ceramics, do the research and you will see that they are made to dust less, not stop your car better. I ran ceramics for many years until I got educated on the subject. I have tried many pads out there and have come to the conclusion that Performance Friction and Porterfields are the best pads. As far as the dust problems with these pads, there is not enough difference to warrant putting ceramics on the car.
Old Jan 22, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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I also bought the ceramic ones from Autozone 49.99 about a year ago and have no problems and hardly no dust. I would recommend them.
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