is this true?

is n e 1 using this setup?

 

Yes, and your struts will last longer too. I remembered someone saying that a stiffer springs will prolong hte life of the struts because since the springs became harder and stiffer, it will create less movement in the struts and therefore, make your strut last longer.

Sooo, go for it!

 

I've heard the opposite regarding strut life... since the springs are stiffer it requires more force from the strut to dampen the rebound of the spring. Can anyone clear this up?

 

I could be wrong, but I think if you imagine that if the springs is so stiff to stretch or compress, there will be less movement in the shocks.....

 

hmmm....I think Punkdork and I have heard the same things. Stiffer springs will reduce the life of your stock struts significantly. So, it is best to replace your struts when you put stiffer springs. It will save you a lot of trouble later on.

 

I think the major killer of stock shocks/struts is how much you lower your car. The more you lower the car the more it pre-compresses the stock strut/shocks. And when the wheel hits a big bump this would cause the shock/strut to bottom out, causing the seals to blow. Performance shocks/struts are made with a shorter stroke therefore preventing it from bottoming out.

 

Copied from http://turnfast.com/tech_handling/ha...springs2.lasso

Speaking of shocks, it is generally necessary to buy stiffer shocks at the same time you change the springs. Springs alone will lower the CG, and will reduce body roll, but neither is the primary function of the spring. For road imperfections, shocks work in conjunction with the spring, and are designed with each other's ratings in mind. Going over bumps, a stiff spring may resist the first compression well, but without sufficient shock capacity, the car will bounce more than it should afterwards which ultimately reduces the car's handling performance. Also, stiffer springs will prematurely fatigue stock shocks. They'll last a while, but will eventually get weaker and decrease the handling performance.

If you can only afford shocks or springs, either keep saving to get both, or start with the shocks. Performance shocks alone which provide firmer bump and rebound control, and greater control over weight transfer rate, will improve handing performance more than stiffer springs alone will.

 

I am running H&R springs with my stock socks/struts. So far I think the ride is like how I started. Nothing changed much. It handles much better then stock I can say that much. Don't see any bleeding from the struts so I don't think they are under stress. pictures are on my site.

 

does this go for all springs? like eibach?

 

Yeah, the stiffer the spring, the sooner the stockers will wear out so stock shocks should die quicker on eibachs than on konis.

 

Do u mean that it's a win-win situation?

The handling has improved but the ride isn't harsh?

 

This was his response when I asked him if I would need 2 replace my stock shocks after installing B & G's ... is he full of crap?


For a drop of only 1.6" you usually do not need to change the shocks no matter what brand of spring you use. You can change them if you feel that you need to, but under MOST circumstances (especially since your car is so new) it is not necessary. If you were dropping you car by 2" or more I would then recommend changing the shocks.

Best Regards,

Dan Saarony
Accelerated Response Motoring

 

Yes and no... you don't NEED to, but you will see better performance if you do. Plus your stock struts will wear out faster if the springs are stiffer.

 

ack! im about to lower my car with eibach springs, so this is making me a little worried.

With the springs, I'll be installing the front strut and rear sway bar. this should help out with handling?

as for the stock shocks wearing... how long is "faster", a couple of months or years?

 

Many people have ridden 10k + miles on stockers. If I were you I'd stick with stock and see how kev's koni project comes out. However, if you aren't doing the install yourself, it'd be more cost efficient to do struts at the same time.

 

B&G baby get B&G springs!!!!



Tim

 

to me the car has been good. only if I so into a serious dip the car kinda wants to bottom out. but its far from it. otherwise the ride is good.

 

why? is there n e magazine, etc which rates these better? they cost more ....