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Old May 9, 2001 | 01:44 PM
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I've been reading the threads and it really got me contemptating get the FSTB and RSB. The SE's handling is pretty tight but at high speeds, it leans some (vs. my 240sx). I would like to get it as close to the feel as possible.

The FSTB only really affects steering response, right?

As for the RSB, Doesn't the stock SE have one already? If so, how then does the Stillen go on. Just replace the old one?

Thanks.
Old May 9, 2001 | 01:47 PM
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The FSTB will improve steering response and feel. It will stiffen up the front also. There is no stock RSB on the max...so it will be a straight bolt on. Get the two....you will feel a big difference guaranteed
Old May 9, 2001 | 01:48 PM
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If you want to reduce body roll, RSB is the way to go. It complements the existing sway bar. Check the how-tos for install pics.
Old May 9, 2001 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork
If you want to reduce body roll, RSB is the way to go. It complements the existing sway bar. Check the how-tos for install pics.
Oops.. read UMD's post.. maybe there isn't a stock sway bar..?
Old May 9, 2001 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork


Oops.. read UMD's post.. maybe there isn't a stock sway bar..?
Hurry up and delete the post so no one will know...

Old May 9, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Hurry up and delete the post so no one will know...

But now you replied to it... so you have to delete your post too! Oh dear me!
Old May 9, 2001 | 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork
If you want to reduce body roll, RSB is the way to go. It complements the existing sway bar. Check the how-tos for install pics.
Of course, this advice comes from a man who's installed a Stillin RSB before... oh, wait a sec... nope, that wasn't you after all... hehehe j/k

How'd I know if I saw the words "sway bar" or "RSB" in the thread title you'd make your mark in here.

Hey, since I ordered one, why don't you get one, too.
Old May 9, 2001 | 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by RcticMax


Of course, this advice comes from a man who's installed a Stillin RSB before... oh, wait a sec... nope, that wasn't you after all... hehehe j/k

How'd I know if I saw the words "sway bar" or "RSB" in the thread title you'd make your mark in here.


Well you can't blame me if I've got a lax job.

Hey, since I ordered one, why don't you get one, too.
You buying?
Old May 9, 2001 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by punkdork


Well you can't blame me if I've got a lax job.



You buying? [/B]
Notice I never used the words "I" and "you" in the latter portion of that sentence.

You got a "lax job"? Boy, that musta hurt!
Old May 9, 2001 | 04:13 PM
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high speed handling

I'll admit I haven't done a complete search on this topic, but since we're on the subject.

Does the FTSB and RSB mod improve the Max's overall high speed handling? I feel that the Max's high speed handling (around 70m.p.h+) could use some improvement, but I don't know if it's a tire issue, or what (stock Bridge potenza's).
If the FTSB and RSB aren't the answer, is there one? Thanks.

-J
Old May 9, 2001 | 04:19 PM
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Yeah, high speed handling will be a lot crisper with these mods. Less body roll and an increase in stiffness helps at high speeds.

As for whether or not the max has a stock sway bar, I don't think so.....I could be wrong though....But either way, the RSB is a bolt on that does not replace any existing parts....
Old May 9, 2001 | 04:22 PM
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Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by Jmax2K1
I'll admit I haven't done a complete search on this topic, but since we're on the subject.

Does the FTSB and RSB mod improve the Max's overall high speed handling? I feel that the Max's high speed handling (around 70m.p.h+) could use some improvement, but I don't know if it's a tire issue, or what (stock Bridge potenza's).
If the FTSB and RSB aren't the answer, is there one? Thanks.

-J
FSTB should tighten up the steering response and RSB reduces body roll.
Old May 9, 2001 | 04:35 PM
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Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by punkdork
FSTB should tighten up the steering response and RSB reduces body roll.
Am I just a fool or did you just change to "Needs non-Maxima Friends".........???

Either way...you and Kev are just ****** on this posting thing.

k:Quick delete that post!

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YOU ARE KINGS!!!!!!! How can I be like you!

Old May 9, 2001 | 04:37 PM
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Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by Michael98033


Am I just a fool or did you just change to "Needs non-Maxima Friends".........???

Either way...you and Kev are just ****** on this posting thing.

k:Quick delete that post!

p:No, you've responded, now you'll have to delete yours

k:No, work faster

p:Quick, respond to 20 posts in 10 minutes.

YOU ARE KINGS!!!!!!! How can I be like you!

The main thing to remember is to post off topic a lot and get into personal conversations in threads.

BTW, I got the non-maxima friends a week or two ago.
Old May 9, 2001 | 04:43 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by punkdork
The main thing to remember is to post off topic a lot and get into personal conversations in threads.

BTW, I got the non-maxima friends a week or two ago.
Let me try...

So, let me get this straight...you've need non-maxima friends for the past week or two and I didn't notice. Am I blind or what?

Was that good?
Old May 9, 2001 | 04:45 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by Michael98033


Let me try...

So, let me get this straight...you've need non-maxima friends for the past week or two and I didn't notice. Am I blind or what?

Was that good?

....hey, you catch on pretty fast

nice job.....a smooglie for you:

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
....hey, you catch on pretty fast

nice job.....a smooglie for you:

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Thanks...
Old May 9, 2001 | 05:51 PM
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Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by Michael98033


Am I just a fool or did you just change to "Needs non-Maxima Friends".........???

Either way...you and Kev are just ****** on this posting thing. :cheese

k:Quick delete that post!

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k:No, work faster

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Old May 9, 2001 | 06:34 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


. . . . . . . .


we're busted Kev
Old May 9, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by punkdork


The main thing to remember is to post off topic a lot and get into personal conversations in threads.

Hey, quit pickin' on me or I'm taking my ball and goin' home

Congrats on the promotion. Too bad it isn't this easy at work.
Old May 9, 2001 | 09:15 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: high speed handling

Originally posted by RcticMax


Hey, quit pickin' on me or I'm taking my ball and goin' home

Congrats on the promotion. Too bad it isn't this easy at work.
Promotion? this is news to me. Whats my job now?
Old May 10, 2001 | 04:50 AM
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your job is same as before.....spammer extraordinaire....
Old May 10, 2001 | 05:50 AM
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If you have the FSTB and RSB is the RSTB all that necessary? Is it worth the money/perfomance to have a RSTB installed with the FSTB and RSB? How much difference in handling is going to be felt with the RSTB?
Old May 10, 2001 | 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
If you have the FSTB and RSB is the RSTB all that necessary? Is it worth the money/perfomance to have a RSTB installed with the FSTB and RSB? How much difference in handling is going to be felt with the RSTB?

RSTB will not give you much of an improvement. Save your money for something else.
Old May 10, 2001 | 07:30 AM
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Yesterday I installed my new FTSB, and man oh man, what a difference. Now I want to look at a RSB. Can anyone give me their input on what to buy and where to get it?
Old May 10, 2001 | 07:58 AM
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Originally posted by walsh03
Yesterday I installed my new FTSB, and man oh man, what a difference. Now I want to look at a RSB. Can anyone give me their input on what to buy and where to get it?
What to buy? I'm sure punkdork can give you an answer on that because he's had both kinds or RSB's. Where to get one? Check the Parts List thread.
Old May 10, 2001 | 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by walsh03
Yesterday I installed my new FTSB, and man oh man, what a difference. Now I want to look at a RSB. Can anyone give me their input on what to buy and where to get it?
I say go with the stillen RSB....The price difference is more worth it.....
Old May 10, 2001 | 08:26 AM
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I'd agree with that, bushings seem sort of bush-league in comparison to the brackets...

Tip: You have to compress the stillen rsb to fit it between the brackets, I tightened one side completely and then used the brackets on the other side as levers to compress the rsb...get jack stands...take your tires off...


Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE


I say go with the stillen RSB....The price difference is more worth it.....
Old May 10, 2001 | 10:00 AM
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Can some answer me this. On the brochure, the SE model has "front and rear stabilizer bar". Does this mean front and rear sway bars?

I thought so but someone told me the Max doesn't have RSB, hence get one. I looked underneath the car from the back and couldn't see one.

Thanks
Old May 10, 2001 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by bcannon
I'd agree with that, bushings seem sort of bush-league in comparison to the brackets...
I'd say the bushings aren't the actual problem. Its the noises associated with the addco bar especially after lowering.

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


What to buy? I'm sure punkdork can give you an answer on that because he's had both kinds or RSB's. Where to get one? Check the Parts List thread.
I haven't had both yet.. I need to get a stillen bar, waiting on money. I had addco and it made way too much noise after I lowered my car. Sounded like I was hitting bumpstops on every bump.
Old May 10, 2001 | 03:45 PM
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I've got a 2001 SE that has the Stillen front strut brace and the rear sway bar. Both offer great improvements. The steering is more responsive and the car seems to corner absolutely flat. Well worth the price. Go for it.....
Old May 14, 2001 | 09:32 AM
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stock max DOES have a RSB!

Look at the rear axl. The stock sway bar is under (in) it. You can see from under the car. The stillen RSB mounts right under it. I think it doesnt look like a typical RSB because we don't have independent rear suspension (why a RSTB doent really do much).

I have the stillen FSTB and RSB and love them both. Good handeling in turns. on/off ramps beware.
Old May 14, 2001 | 10:23 AM
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Re: stock max DOES have a RSB!

Originally posted by theMax
...on/off ramps beware.
What's that mean, are you talking about the tire grip at the limits, or is it a warning to other drivers that you can go faster on the ramps and thusly merge more quickly?
Old May 14, 2001 | 10:33 AM
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Originally posted by bcannon


What's that mean, are you talking about the tire grip at the limits, or is it a warning to other drivers that you can go faster on the ramps and thusly merge more quickly?
Uhhh... I think he was talking "to" the on ramps/off ramps as in "You've had your day. Look at me now... wheeeeee!!!"

That's what I'll be saying when I get my RSB installed (due to arrive this week)!
Old May 14, 2001 | 07:45 PM
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you got it RcticMax!

The max holds much better especally on on/off ramps. I can hold much higher speeds and hit most merges at highway speeds. Also I don't need to apply brakes before exiting. All on stock tires (for now)
Old May 15, 2001 | 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by To-the-Max-ima
I've been reading the threads and it really got me contemptating get the FSTB and RSB. The SE's handling is pretty tight but at high speeds, it leans some (vs. my 240sx). I would like to get it as close to the feel as possible.

The FSTB only really affects steering response, right?

As for the RSB, Doesn't the stock SE have one already? If so, how then does the Stillen go on. Just replace the old one?

Thanks.
I am waiting for my Stillen FSTB. I heard nothing but good things about them. They make the MAX handle better. Now I gotta find a torque wrench before it shows up. Go Stillen. Tried and tested.
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