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Old May 19, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Need Opinion supercharger or 5.5 gen

I have a 01 max with 75000 and i want a supercharger , Do you all think i should get the supercharger ot should i just trade it in and get an 02 or 03, What do you all think?
Old May 19, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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supercharge it.
Old May 19, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Can i supercharge a 01 auto because i always see people with 5pd sprcharger
Old May 19, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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supercharge it.
and kick some 02-03 butts... j/k
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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what mods do you have NOW?

if none, why not go with exhaust, intake, headers and you'll have the power of a 5.5th gen....much cheaper and less trouble than SC
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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right now i have none just those 18" 350z wheeels and a 1.5 drop ... what kind of exaust can i get to make it look and sound close to stock .Iwant to keep it lookin stock but want to be as fast or faster than 5.5 gen..But i can supercharge an 01 auto right?
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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how much hp will exaust intake and headers give me
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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if you were to do a complete intake/exhaust system, each component is "worth" more HP....if all together:

intake: 5
headers: 20 or so
full exhaust: 10 or so

so +35-40
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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Not transmission to transmission, still won't be up to a modded 5.5g ..

I have yet to see a 5g auto put down 220hp.

H/E about 15-20whp, I think BlackBIRD would know best here.
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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I wold invest the money, after talking to BlackbirdVQ, to NA the thing.

Seriously, though...and SC will cost around $7,000+ when you are ready to drive it home.
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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i think im still goin to get that supercharger as well as the header and kill all 5.5 gens
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:49 PM
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But thanxs everyone
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:51 PM
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damn 7000 oh yea i think i might get that 03 thanxs alot
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
I wold invest the money, after talking to BlackbirdVQ, to NA the thing.

Seriously, though...and SC will cost around $7,000+ when you are ready to drive it home.
wrong with you ? Where did you get that figure?
Old May 19, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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wrong with you kid? Where did you get that figure?
Supercharger = $4k
Labor @ $65/hr x 30hrs min. $2k
Misc. = $1k

...no?
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Oh. I wasn't counting the labor Sorry about that.

If you really wanted to get a s/c for relativley cheap, you could get a used one, and save, talk to Broaner, he's going that route.
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Oh. I wasn't counting the labor Sorry about that.

If you really wanted to get a s/c for relativley cheap, you could get a used one, and save, talk to Broaner, he's going that route.
Yeah, d00d. I would happily plunk down $4k for an all-inclusive SC deal!
Old May 19, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Supercharger = $4k
Labor @ $65/hr x 30hrs min. $2k
Misc. = $1k

...no?
people all over the org who can help with the install.
Old May 20, 2005 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Ammi
people all over the org who can help with the install.
Good point.

Hey, PearlDiamond, we have a Turbo/Supercharged forum here on the .org. Go check it out, they can probably give you a better idea as to what you can expect. Also, they have some kick-@ss stickies there, read up on them.
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SCed auto ? No thanx. I would reather own a 3.5L AUTO than a SCed 3.0L AUTO. Stillen blower needs to be reved up high to make power, down low you aint got nothing. Automatics need power down low, and with them shifting only 4 foward gears they loose alot of power between shifts. SCed AUTO will run like low 14s at best right out of the box, where a 3.5L will run low 14s with just a intake, timing advance, weight reduction. It would suck for your auto to line up with a 5spd 3.0L like mine and get destroyed after putting 4-5K dollars worth of SC parts on your car.
Old May 20, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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Yea I'd say trade it for an 02-03 5 speed and put the goodies on that!!!!
Old May 20, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
if you were to do a complete intake/exhaust system, each component is "worth" more HP....if all together:

intake: 5
headers: 20 or so
full exhaust: 10 or so

so +35-40

Those #'s are alittle overestimated. I would say with all those mods maybe 25hp. Just trying to help shoot the guy straight
Old May 20, 2005 | 05:46 AM
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Get the 5.5. Of course, I'm biased...
Old May 20, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackBIRDVQ
SCed auto ? No thanx. I would reather own a 3.5L AUTO than a SCed 3.0L AUTO. Stillen blower needs to be reved up high to make power, down low you aint got nothing. Automatics need power down low, and with them shifting only 4 foward gears they loose alot of power between shifts. SCed AUTO will run like low 14s at best right out of the box, where a 3.5L will run low 14s with just a intake, timing advance, weight reduction. It would suck for your auto to line up with a 5spd 3.0L like mine and get destroyed after putting 4-5K dollars worth of SC parts on your car.

Your car is slow . I enjoy my car and it is a auto. My car ran a 14.3 at 99 on 9psi, 19"rims, no vb mod, untuned, and ypipe back 2.5" exhaust. Now with my mods in my sig i am putting down about 380 whp and i plan to run possibly high 12's once i get some slicks. Then its on to nitrous and my built tranny this summer. Can you say 11's!!!!!! .

Honestly it is a tough decision, but the supercharged auto can take down almost any 3.5L you put in front of it. I got my kit for $2,500 used here on the org.
Old May 20, 2005 | 06:35 AM
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Where do ya'll come and say that a modded 2k with auto is slow??? I know my car is not, and I've beaten about 3 modded 5-speeds already, even one 5.5gen stock with a auto.

BTW I not trying to start something, just trying to speak up for the worthless 3.0 auto (still is a POS tranny but with a VB mod the performance is better).
Old May 20, 2005 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by chris'smax
Your car is slow . I enjoy my car and it is a auto. My car ran a 14.3 at 99 on 9psi, 19"rims, no vb mod, untuned, and ypipe back 2.5" exhaust. Now with my mods in my sig i am putting down about 380 whp and i plan to run possibly high 12's once i get some slicks. Then its on to nitrous and my built tranny this summer. Can you say 11's!!!!!! .

Honestly it is a tough decision, but the supercharged auto can take down almost any 3.5L you put in front of it. I got my kit for $2,500 used here on the org.
Chris, I'am also going your route and BTW I think your 2k auto is one of the best modded I have ever seen. I like the way you take care of it, keep up the good work.
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Amen to that Ghase! I was thinking of the same things as PearlDiamond and decided to go with intake, Y & B pipe instead of 5.5 gen and I'm quite happy with performance and can kick some more now ;-)
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Amen to that Ghase! I was thinking of the same things as PearlDiamond and decided to go with intake, Y & B pipe instead of 5.5 gen and I'm quite happy with performance and can kick some more now ;-)
I also drove a 5.5gen 6-speed back in feb. 2002(first came out). There fast as fuc!, but wants to do financing all over again where most original 2k owners already have paid off the bank and have their titles in hand (that's my problem). SC is for me...LOL
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to irish "intake: 5
headers: 20 or so
full exhaust: 10 or so

so +35-40".........Show me a single dyno or track time where an intake or even an exhaust has improved your times or dyno. I dont kno how much HP it adds but the speed gains are almost non existant
Old May 20, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Bondy009
to irish "intake: 5
headers: 20 or so
full exhaust: 10 or so

so +35-40".........Show me a single dyno or track time where an intake or even an exhaust has improved your times or dyno. I dont kno how much HP it adds but the speed gains are almost non existant
Intake dynos/numbers here:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=376123

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=195391

B-pipe dyno here:

http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/522

Irish's exhaust guesstimate may be a little overstated, since most rear sections probably won't give ya much, so you'd be left with the 6 whp from the b-pipe, which isn't bad by any means... but the intake number seems fine, and is even on the low side if ya try the GAB set-up, which was dynoed by Nmexmax and bgates to give 9 whp.

As for headers on a VQ30, I'm not sure, but considering a y-pipe gives em at least around 12 whp, 20 is not that unbelievable.
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Chris, I'am also going your route and BTW I think your 2k auto is one of the best modded I have ever seen. I like the way you take care of it, keep up the good work.

Thanks
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Headers will infact give you anywhere from 20 to 25 on a 3.0, 3.5 get an extra 5.
Old May 20, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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PearlDiamond - if you have a lot of $$ to spare, get the 5.5 gen stick and SC or turbo it ;-) I come from the poor croud and I'm happy with spending $500 on intake, Y+B...
Old May 20, 2005 | 08:32 AM
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I got one last payment until its paid off so ill just go with the full exuast , intake , headers, and maybe ecu upgrade
Old May 20, 2005 | 08:58 AM
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ever think about going turbo?

might be a more complicated setup than the sc, but i think its the better way to go...
Old May 20, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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Cattman headers (new ones will be out soon), Cattman Catback, Berk Intake, Unorthodox under drive pulley, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Cattman FSTB, BlehmCo Stage 2 LTB, Stillen RSB and HIDs (eBay projectors retrofit). DONE
Old May 20, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by frankd121
ever think about going turbo?

might be a more complicated setup than the sc, but i think its the better way to go...

not on a auto
Old May 20, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SixxOne
Cattman headers (new ones will be out soon), Cattman Catback, Berk Intake, Unorthodox under drive pulley, JIC FLT-A2 coilovers, Cattman FSTB, BlehmCo Stage 2 LTB, Stillen RSB and HIDs (eBay projectors retrofit). DONE
does this have to do with anything?
Old May 20, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Go 5.5. Stillen will eventually make a SC for the 5.5 gen. So you can already be that much farther ahead.
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im not arguing the Y-pipe and headers those obviously show gains. I was saying that an INtake and a full exhaust alone will not give you much if any added gains. This comes from a friend of mine who is a lexus mechanic and ownes 2 IS300's, one stock and the other with a stage III turbo. I used to hang around with them and go to tracks/dynos and they alwasy put race a stock IS with an IS with just and intake or an intake and exhaust and both cars would run the same. Both 5spd's or both auto's.



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