Automatic shift points
Under full throttle acceleration, my trans shifts way too early for my tastes. The 1-2 upshift at about 6000rpm and the 2-3 upshift at 5800 rpm. Is that normal?
I could shift it manually, but the darn auto shifts so slow that if I shift at 6000 rpm it sometimes hits the 6600rpm rev limiter before it decides to shift. This short shifting it getting really annoying. I should have got the 5-spd.
I could shift it manually, but the darn auto shifts so slow that if I shift at 6000 rpm it sometimes hits the 6600rpm rev limiter before it decides to shift. This short shifting it getting really annoying. I should have got the 5-spd.
1-2 upshift occurs at 5800
2-3 upshift occurs at 6000
with overdrive off
Where is peak torque again? I want to ensure I am using all of it.
At least the shifts are nice and crisp with the new transmission solenoids.
I never got the TCM replaced. Would this help raise the shift points?
2-3 upshift occurs at 6000
with overdrive off
Where is peak torque again? I want to ensure I am using all of it.
At least the shifts are nice and crisp with the new transmission solenoids.
I never got the TCM replaced. Would this help raise the shift points?
Originally posted by mike_bresnahan
I never got the TCM replaced. Would this help raise the shift points?
I never got the TCM replaced. Would this help raise the shift points?
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
interesting....so by that argument, more hp = later shifting....
10lbs of boost...hmmmm....maybe it will put you at 7k rpm
interesting....so by that argument, more hp = later shifting....
10lbs of boost...hmmmm....maybe it will put you at 7k rpm
Once in a while, I see my car shift at about 6300 when I take it hard from a stop. Weird but true.
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
DMan have stated that with his SC, he got closer to 6600. I don't know how it works, but I'm only hoping it's true. Where do you think 10 lbs. of boost will put me?
DMan have stated that with his SC, he got closer to 6600. I don't know how it works, but I'm only hoping it's true. Where do you think 10 lbs. of boost will put me?
10lbs of boost...hmmmm....maybe it will put you at 7k rpm
Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
hmmm....I have to try this......time for some experimentation on the backroads
hmmm....I have to try this......time for some experimentation on the backroads
Two things I hate: The tranny shifting too soon, then I manual shift it and hit rev limiter which makes a horrible clunk into second because of the delay in shift.
Second when I take off from a stop light my wheels start to spin in a little gravel and the traction control kicks in and kills the engine.....so I look like I just stalled my car although I drive an auto.
Mark
Second when I take off from a stop light my wheels start to spin in a little gravel and the traction control kicks in and kills the engine.....so I look like I just stalled my car although I drive an auto.
Mark
Originally posted by Maximam
Two things I hate: The tranny shifting too soon, then I manual shift it and hit rev limiter which makes a horrible clunk into second because of the delay in shift.
Second when I take off from a stop light my wheels start to spin in a little gravel and the traction control kicks in and kills the engine.....so I look like I just stalled my car although I drive an auto.
Mark
Two things I hate: The tranny shifting too soon, then I manual shift it and hit rev limiter which makes a horrible clunk into second because of the delay in shift.
Second when I take off from a stop light my wheels start to spin in a little gravel and the traction control kicks in and kills the engine.....so I look like I just stalled my car although I drive an auto.
Mark
I just get a lot of screeching tire noise when taking off. Not effective for what I am usually trying to do.
Guess I need to learn how to launch properly.
Thanks!
Thanks for the replies. At least I now know that I'm not alone. It sounds like one of those things we're just gonna have to deal with. It's such a shame because minus the trans, this car is phenomenal in every way. If I end up selling the car prematurely, it will be because I can't deal with this lame auto anymore.
HMMMMMM............
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
Re: HMMMMMM............
Originally posted by MaxSEAE
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
Re: HMMMMMM............
Originally posted by MaxSEAE
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
Re: HMMMMMM............
Originally posted by MaxSEAE
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
for some reason i never hit the rev limiter *knock on wood*, i have an auto and i do a manual shift a lot and turn off my tcs but and wait till i hit 6500 rpm exact before i shift, but my engine shift right away and i never hit the rev limiter...hmmmm, am i just lucky? i wish the max was a rwd, it'll take off so much nicer than wat it's capable of doin.
Because our cars have a 4spd auto, the gearing is so widely spaced that it is critical to take advantage of every bit of RPM we have available in every gear. Earlier someone was asking for dyno results to see our torque peak. You can find my dyno results at:
http://www.desertpearlmax.homestead....noResults.html
But knowing these curves for our car is irrelevant. The gearing is soooo widely spaced that the shape of the torque is not relevant in calculating shift points.
http://www.desertpearlmax.homestead....noResults.html
But knowing these curves for our car is irrelevant. The gearing is soooo widely spaced that the shape of the torque is not relevant in calculating shift points.
There is a noticable difference in power in the next gear when I manually shift to second or third, the 500 rpm helps.
Does anyone notice the max is a dog anywhere above 80mph? My SHO would kill my max above 80mph
Mark
Does anyone notice the max is a dog anywhere above 80mph? My SHO would kill my max above 80mph
Mark
Originally posted by Maximam
Does anyone notice the max is a dog anywhere above 80mph? My SHO would kill my max above 80mph
Does anyone notice the max is a dog anywhere above 80mph? My SHO would kill my max above 80mph
).
Thanks to my Supercharger . . . .
My 2K max now will upshift from 1-2 at 6500-6600 rpm. I can't really explain it but maybe its because the rpms rev up so quickly when I reach boost levels that the ECU isn't able to shift quickly enough, thus the 6500-6600 rpm shift point. Prior to the SCer install my car also shifted around 6000-6100 rpm from the 1-2 upshift. I also noticed that my max was somewhat of a dog above 80 mph but since adding the SCer and the y-pipe it really pulls hard and quickly to 120 mph. I'm wondering what type of throttle response I will get at highway speeds after I have my high stall torque converter installed next tuesday.
Re: Thanks to my Supercharger . . . .
Originally posted by DMan_2KMax
My 2K max now will upshift from 1-2 at 6500-6600 rpm. I can't really explain it but maybe its because the rpms rev up so quickly when I reach boost levels that the ECU isn't able to shift quickly enough, thus the 6500-6600 rpm shift point. Prior to the SCer install my car also shifted around 6000-6100 rpm from the 1-2 upshift. I also noticed that my max was somewhat of a dog above 80 mph but since adding the SCer and the y-pipe it really pulls hard and quickly to 120 mph. I'm wondering what type of throttle response I will get at highway speeds after I have my high stall torque converter installed next tuesday.
My 2K max now will upshift from 1-2 at 6500-6600 rpm. I can't really explain it but maybe its because the rpms rev up so quickly when I reach boost levels that the ECU isn't able to shift quickly enough, thus the 6500-6600 rpm shift point. Prior to the SCer install my car also shifted around 6000-6100 rpm from the 1-2 upshift. I also noticed that my max was somewhat of a dog above 80 mph but since adding the SCer and the y-pipe it really pulls hard and quickly to 120 mph. I'm wondering what type of throttle response I will get at highway speeds after I have my high stall torque converter installed next tuesday.
Mark
Re: Re: Thanks to my Supercharger . . . .
Originally posted by Maximam
DMAN, you have one bad a*s car.....I need a SC. After driving my buddies GS400 for three days, my max feels like a slow POS!
Mark
DMAN, you have one bad a*s car.....I need a SC. After driving my buddies GS400 for three days, my max feels like a slow POS!
Mark
Dog above 80...
Originally posted by Maximam
There is a noticable difference in power in the next gear when I manually shift to second or third, the 500 rpm helps.
Does anyone notice the max is a dog anywhere above 80mph? My SHO would kill my max above 80mph
Mark
There is a noticable difference in power in the next gear when I manually shift to second or third, the 500 rpm helps.
Does anyone notice the max is a dog anywhere above 80mph? My SHO would kill my max above 80mph
Mark
Immagine if this car had a 6-speed...It would fricken fly!!!
Shifting into 3rd at 70mph slows down the car alot. 1st and 2nd gear is to close. 3rd is to tall and 4th is tall and it freguently has to downshift to get any passing power unless you are already cruising at 70mph when it is near its "sweet" spot at 2,550rpms. My shift points 1-2shifts are at 5,950rpms. 2-3shifts are at 6,200rpms. 3-4shifts happen at 6,200rpms. This car is god slow in 4th gear.
Desert Pearl, Just enjoy that beautiful AE. It looks so sweeet.
Desert Pearl, Just enjoy that beautiful AE. It looks so sweeet.
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how would more hp change the shift points?
thats what the warranty is for
Uhhhhh.... ok.
