I would like to hear what H&R owners have to say about these springs. I have illuminas waiting to be installed and looking for the right springs. I dont care much about lowering the car as much as i care about handling and ride comfort.

 

i have them and love them but havent tried any others. i like it because the drop is perfect...not to much. handling is alot better then stock...even when i had my RSB and FSTB

 

i just threw tein h techs on with stock struts. the ride is stiffer and it handles much better. on normal roads it feels the same but on a bumpy road you can feel it a bit. if your more into handling and not ride comfort i would go with eibach

 

i installed S00NR1's h&r's last weekend. the drop is great and the ride is like stock to me. it's a better handling car and looks good.

 

As Jason didn't tell you though...the Maxspeeds ride is pretty much identical to the H&R, but they don't sag in the back like the H&R's appear to on his car (we have parked side-by-side)....

 

Maxspeed and H&R are the same...only the price is different. H&R cost twice than Maxspeed....your choice. I have Maxspeed and I love the drop...

 

h&r's sag in the back? you mean the drop loox uneven because the back is dropped lower than it should be? or the springs are not rigid enogh and it settled too much after a while?

 

I don't believe they are the same. If they were the exact same then they wouldn't have set the price apart so much. H&R are German Engineered and guaranteed NOT to sag...The fender shape and stock drop make it appear this way. The springs lower this amount because it's what H&R engineers found to be optimal for ride quality and handling which the H&Rs dominate for lowering springs on Maximas according to housecor's website and many other personal opinions on the .org as far as performance goes. There are many products that people say are the "same" and while they may accomplish nearly the same effect, it doesn't mean that the more expensive and better designed one won't produce better results and satisfaction in the long run. Maxspeeds should be considered a cheaper ALTERNATIVE, and not necessarily a cheaper substitution because substitution implies identical design and performance which is certainly not true in this case.

 

i tend to agree.
i rad about that somewhere on the net. when i was shopping for springs ppl where saying that maxspeeds are "same" as H&R.
sometimes u know what they say ... u get what you paid for. and decided to get the H&R. i had my car parked next to the maxima with maxspeeds on it. mine was a little lower. but then again i have a box in the trunk.
but performance is Awesome.

 

They are not the SAME springs. They have a similar ride quality and overall drop height, though. It is a FACT that the H&Rs sit lower in the back than the maxspeeds, giving the appearance that they are sagging.

so....you got what you paid for because your springs are lower? That makes no sense at all.

...and if you had a box in the trunk, well, DUH....of course yours will sit lower in the back.

Oh, the H&R Engineers found that!?! OMG, amazing that they would say that their springs are engineered for optimal ride and handling!! As opposed to the Tein, Maxspeed, and Eibach engineers, who engineer their springs for crappy ride and handling

Although we all appreciate housecor's website, it is not a "scientific" poll or anything. As to "personal opinions", why don't we reference the Thread YOU made on this subject:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....ight=H%26R+sag

the opinions seem to be pretty evenly split, from what I can tell.

As to the comments on maxspeeds handling being bad - BS. I autocross my car on the weekends and drive on really crappy roads to work every day. I have NEVER had a complaint about the maxspeeds.......I'm not saying anything bad about H&R either....I think they're fine springs, but they just sit too low in the back for my liking.

I have driven both my car with maxspeeds and several with H&R's (including soonerfan's a couple of times) and I really could feel no difference at all.

As to the part about them being "German" and somehow being superior....whatever. Making a spring for a car is not freaking rocket science.

 

by the way, the original thread starter said he didn't care about a low drop, so whether H&R are lower than Maxspeeds is irrelevant.....

 

geez irish, you and jason are really on a roll today...lol....i do agree with your points, though

 

What I meant about the same is based on housecor website that the drop is 1.4 front 1.3 in the rear. If you can accomplish the same results with two different objects. what would you do. Will you buy the most expensive just because they have a better name....brand name.... think about it. but that's just my opinion.....

 

I will note that in reality, the Maxspeeds and H&R do NOT have the same drop.....they SAY they do, but in reality the H&R drop is more like 1.5 inches in the rear, while the Maxspeed is about 0.5....

take a look at the 4th and 5th pics on housecor's site, and the measurements below. H&R is a full inch lower in the back

http://www.innerbean.com/housecor/sp..._decision.html

 

on a roll? I just turned the computer on an hour ago!

 

they are excellent springs and i love them. we have 2 maximas lowered with them and way better then stock and good drop especially if you are going to get a kit later. i say get them.

 

Well anyway I like the Maxspeeds so far..... and you can not beat the price......

 

you're preaching to the choir, brother. I would go with Maxspeeds before H&R....actually, I did!

 

if you can get the springs used then that would be a better deal than paying full price.

personally i don't see the point of paying more for a product that's proven to perform virtually the same as a lower priced alternative. you live and you learn though.

spending a lot of $$ on a full suspension upgrade imo isn't worth unless you're going to the track/autocross.

 

I've been running Maxspeeds on stock shocks and they seemed fine on smooth roads and provide a very nice, even drop. However, on bumps the ride is literally bone jarring. I certainly hope H&R's are better because I can't stand the Maxspeeds any more and have the H&R's here ready for installation.

 

stock shocks being the operative words there.....


when will people learn that the stock shocks do not have the dampening power to deal with the increased spring rates of aftermarket springs?

 

I wil give you an idea...get rid of the STOCK shocks and keep the Maxspeed.....

 

I just put H&R springs and Tokiko Blues on my 01 Max SE, and the springs are awesome. They ride and handle great. And as for the Maxspeed vs. H&R discussion, I was told by my shop guys that the H&R's will last longer and and be a better overall spring. Not nocking other springs, this is just what I was told.

Go H&R and be happy. (Oh, I also had them on an Audi A4 I used to have, and they were great on that too)

 

I have to disagree on this one. My Maxspeeds and the Sooner1's H&Rs are by FAR more comfortable than the Eibachs I have ridden in. The Eibachs handle really well, but they are definately stiffer than the H&Rs.

 

Oh I learned alright and definitely agree with you. Illumina's are here and ready to be installed also. Unfortunately I'm not much of a do it yourself type of guy so I didn't want to take a chance again on a rough ride. Let me ask you this, how is your ride on rough roads and how is your ride on rough roads with a full load of passengers?