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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:10 PM
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Wheelspin and Wheel hop

Need help with this one. Whenever I accelerate hard enough to spin the tires, the car shakes vigorously. The car has about 85,000 km (50K miles) and the stock craptenzas are about worn out (thank god, I can't wait to get rid of them!!). I bought the car with 15,000 km and back then the tires would light up without any problems. I haven't had an alignment since I bought the car. Any idea what the problem is?

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Old Nov 4, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Forgot to mention, I have a six speed with a LSD
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:09 PM
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Replace the deathtenza's and maybe replace your motor mounts with the ES ones. Oh and get a stiffer suspension too and some new shocks (Illumina's).
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crispykid717
Replace the deathtenza's and maybe replace your motor mounts with the ES ones. Oh and get a stiffer suspension too and some new shocks (Illumina's).
Do you mean when my car was new (had brand new tires and motor mounts) it did not have the wheel hop?

I thought that that’s the way they designed them…
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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No. I don't mean that at all. When you upgrade the suspension, motor mounts, and tires it reduces the wheel hop. At least it did with mine.
Old Nov 4, 2005 | 11:12 PM
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definitely get motor mounts....it really stiffens up the front end and prevents the violent shaking....the power gets send directly to the ground now....with jelly filled stock mounts, the motor would just rock back & forth and cause all the ruckus...
Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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ES means Energy Suspension right? Where do you get 'em?
Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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suspension.com or cattman
Old Nov 5, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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how long did it take you to swap the motor mounts?
Old Nov 5, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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about 3-4hrs total....we had to take the motor mounts to a shop....and we left them there cuz they were very busy....if we had immediate access to them...then approximately 1.5hrs
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cwc412
Need help with this one. Whenever I accelerate hard enough to spin the tires, the car shakes vigorously. The car has about 85,000 km (50K miles) and the stock craptenzas are about worn out (thank god, I can't wait to get rid of them!!). I bought the car with 15,000 km and back then the tires would light up without any problems. I haven't had an alignment since I bought the car. Any idea what the problem is?

Thanks in advance for your help!
Definetly get yourself some energy suspension motor mounts. I just had them installed on my 03 6speed with HLSD. Makes a HUGE difference in eliminating wheel hop.

Brian Catts sells them for around 86 bucks.

Note that you will get slightly more vibration from your engine when you have these. I dont mind though, I like a good butt massage!
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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just do the all-wheel-drive conversion. That should fix the wheel hop issue


lighter wheels will help as well...
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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My wheelhop was greatly reduced after I installed lowering springs.
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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totally forgot also - the lower tie bar almost eliminated my wheel hop entirely.
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
totally forgot also - the lower tie bar almost eliminated my wheel hop entirely.
cause you have no torque
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
cause you have no torque
maybe true, but at least I don't have to put a quart of oil into my engine every couple of weeks

Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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My wheel hop was reduced when I put on my progress springs, but its still there. I guess ill just have to deal with it, good ol front wheel drive!
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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LOL...you VA guys crack me up....i wonder where puppet's at
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
maybe true, but at least I don't have to put a quart of oil into my engine every couple of weeks



Starting to make me wish I had held out my cash for some SSR Competitions... mmm. Those G35c's are a little heavier than my stockers.
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Originally Posted by irish44j
maybe true, but at least I don't have to put a quart of oil into my engine every couple of weeks

you wont be saying that when i have a brand new engine

or use my deployment money for G35Cwheels...with the G35 still connected to them
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
or use my deployment money for G35Cwheels...with the G35 still connected to them


Love it!
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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I have ES tranny and engine mounts, riding on H&R springs on stock shocks (80,000kms on it now). Tires are Hankook k104 235-35-19's.

I still get wheel hop after all said and done.
Old Nov 6, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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I don't know how you guys are driving/launching, but with the Max being a FWD vehicle with plenty of power, I don't think we can simply redline it in 1st and then slam it into 2nd and do the same and expect no wheel spin or hop.

Nealoc put it best:

Originally Posted by Nealoc187
I roll on the throttle and don't go WOT in 2nd, but I don't shift slow. You manipulate the throttle to limit your wheelspin such that you don't hurt your time. No one can tell you how to do it really, you have to get out there and try it again and again and see what gives you the best time.
From this thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=435341
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:19 AM
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Mine only happens when its wet out- i have hardly any traction in the rain and if i go over 3k RPM in 1st theyll start spinning. dry pavement i could get a good spin but when its wet they'll start shaking like crazy- is there any long term effects to that, like say the CV axles(mine are clicking now but all the time, not just on turns)
Old Nov 9, 2005 | 07:25 AM
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also remember the shocks are what dampen the suspension. no matter how stiff you make everything else, the wheels will still hop! the softer the springs and suspension bushings, the bigger the hop is going to be. but to prevent the oscillation (hop), you need some stiffer shocks.
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Originally Posted by Matt93SE
also remember the shocks are what dampen the suspension. no matter how stiff you make everything else, the wheels will still hop! the softer the springs and suspension bushings, the bigger the hop is going to be. but to prevent the oscillation (hop), you need some stiffer shocks.
And lower tier bars right?

Old Nov 9, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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I only get wheel hop when its raining and when im at the track......thats it.....I have crappy tires so when I get some better ones I hope to eliminate all of that.
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 06:14 AM
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I don't get any wheel hop, but then again I am not trying to launch the hell out of my car. Why are you guys launching your cars so hard. It's a family sedan!!!!
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
I don't get any wheel hop, but then again I am not trying to launch the hell out of my car. Why are you guys launching your cars so hard. It's a family sedan!!!!


Um... If i wanted to drive it like a family sedan, I wouldnt have put the headers on it
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 06:48 AM
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Um... If i wanted to drive it like a family sedan, I wouldnt have put the headers on it
Then you got the wrong car!! I don't any issues with people modding there car, but when they except a family sedan to not have certain performance issue is beyond me. I just can't make my daily commuter car into some vibration/noise box!!!!!!It has to be comfortable and quick and that's what the max is!!!!
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by boondoxmax
Then you got the wrong car!! I don't any issues with people modding there car, but when they except a family sedan to not have certain performance issue is beyond me. I just can't make my daily commuter car into some vibration/noise box!!!!!!It has to be comfortable and quick and that's what the max is!!!!
I dont have the wrong car. It is possible to alleviate wheel hop while still having a very reasonable daily driver. Sure, its not going to be a race car but I do not see mine as a family sedan... I see it as Nissan first saw it, a Four Door Sports Car
Old Nov 10, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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Thats me on the left, you guys can figure out why I get no wheelhop.LOL. Jic Magic baby...
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You guys realize that wheel hop is cause primarily by the control arms moving to the rear of the car repeatedly right? Motor mounts and stiffer shocks and springs help the issue but don't completely cure it. The only way to completely reverse this phenomenon is with traction bars that prevent the control arm from moving laterally front to back. JClaw makes 'em for the 4th gens.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....=traction+bars
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I get absolutely no wheel hop. No suspention no hop! When I rode about an inch and a halfe higher it happened all the time.
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Originally Posted by Starchild2K2SE
Thats me on the left, you guys can figure out why I get no wheelhop.LOL. Jic Magic baby...
damn that thing is low...do u happen to have a side shot of the car? i'm interested in how low how are
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Originally Posted by rbrown81
I dont have the wrong car. It is possible to alleviate wheel hop while still having a very reasonable daily driver. Sure, its not going to be a race car but I do not see mine as a family sedan... I see it as Nissan first saw it, a Four Door Sports Car
Problem is the 4dsc as nissan labelled it back then didn't have the tq it does now so i don't think wheel hop was an issue then. I loved the 3rd gen maxima and in my opinion its the best max ever......!!!!!But it was still a family sedan
Old Nov 11, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by nismology
You guys realize that wheel hop is cause primarily by the control arms moving to the rear of the car repeatedly right? Motor mounts and stiffer shocks and springs help the issue but don't completely cure it. The only way to completely reverse this phenomenon is with traction bars that prevent the control arm from moving laterally front to back. JClaw makes 'em for the 4th gens.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....=traction+bars
Does anyone make them for 5th gens? Matt Blehm maybe??
Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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Install es poly control arm bushings. will help some with the wheel hop and above all makes the steering much tighter! I have place racing solid poly engine mounts,tein/illuminas, strut bar, and poly control arms , but i still get some wheel hop.everything mentioned does help though.
Old Nov 14, 2005 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Park2670
My wheel hop was reduced when I put on my progress springs, but its still there. I guess ill just have to deal with it, good ol front wheel drive!
Replacing the struts made the biggest difference for me. Good luck!
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