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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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question about SE gauges

well first off i used to own a 96 maxima a few years back but got rid of it with 140k miles and a bad tranny and got a galant. well the galant got totaled by some stupid old man running a stop sign so now im the proud owner of a maxima again! 01 gxe with 24k miles.

well my question is im looking on ebay and i wanna buy an SE gauge cluster (the indiglos dont do it for me anymore.) so my questions are:
1) will an 02/03 cluster fit an 01?
2) i found a 01 SE cluster with 78k miles. is it possible to switch the odometers?

any input will be greatly appreciated.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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1. I don't think so
2. If you take it to a stealership they will reprogram it with the correct mileage
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 11:04 AM
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2. If you take it to a stealership they will reprogram it with the correct mileage
Clusters are dependent on what options you have on the car, is it not? Even if the clusters are of the same year but with different options, I don't think it will work. I may be wrong on this.

Reprogramming requires more money, I think the user wants a PNP route.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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well i can tell you guys when i had the 96 maxima (GLE) i swapped in 97 SE gauges and everything worked fine. just the other day my friend swapped out his cluster on his 94 gxe with a SE cluster from a 90. all the plugs in the back were the same and everything worked fine. i would never pay the dealer to reprogram the odometer, so if its not possible to swap the odometers i guess im stuck with the gxe cluster.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:09 PM
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1. No
2. No

It won't? That's funny...
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Its a NO
And NO
I think that should be obvious
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ope2k4
Its a NO
And NO
I think that should be obvious

Well, it's NOT that obvious.

They both have IDENTICAL screw spacings.

They both have IDENTICAL harness inputs.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ope2k4
Its a NO
And NO
I think that should be obvious
So why DON'T they fit, then?
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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So why DON'T they fit, then?
Lets put it this way Theyre exact same clusters( the 5th gen SE, GLE and GXE) with different info (your car mileage) and since the SE white face is glued Hmmmmmmmm
Let me take my previous statement back.

Its possible to do it. Although the work and the effort might not be worth it.

1) get a SE cluster (the whole thing) you might even get one thats not working cos all you need is the face. And you might wanna check the the write up for installing gauges. And if you screw up your needles then you will regret working on it.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ope2k4
Lets put it this way Theyre exact same clusters( the 5th gen SE, GLE and GXE) with different info (your car mileage) and since the SE white face is glued Hmmmmmmmm
Let me take my previous statement back.
The SE white face is 'glued'? Again, that's news to me. But what do I know, I only took my SE face apart twice.

Its possible to do it. Although the work and the effort might not be worth it.
What 'effort'? All you're doing is plug and play to three harnesses.

1) get a SE cluster (the whole thing) you might even get one thats not working cos all you need is the face. And you might wanna check the the write up for installing gauges. And if you screw up your needles then you will regret working on it.
Yes, this is entirley possible. Changing the gauge faces is a very risky buisness in a 5th gen.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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no one has said why it wont work. i dont wanna buy SE gauges and stick them in my cluster, i want to buy a whole SE cluster and swap them, so whoever wrote they are glued i ask whats glued? just tryingt o learn here but i dont understand why it wont work. nissan has always made the same gauge clusters for the maximas just changed the look of them for the SE's (at least for the 3rd and 4th gens.)
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by spreenyk888
no one has said why it wont work. i dont wanna buy SE gauges and stick them in my cluster, i want to buy a whole SE cluster and swap them, so whoever wrote they are glued i ask whats glued? just tryingt o learn here but i dont understand why it wont work. nissan has always made the same gauge clusters for the maximas just changed the look of them for the SE's (at least for the 3rd and 4th gens.)
Buy SE gauges.

Swap Faces.

Profit.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Metal Maxima
Buy SE gauges.

Swap Faces.

Profit.
sounds like a plan to me, but i guess swapping the odometers is impossible?
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by spreenyk888
sounds like a plan to me, but i guess swapping the odometers is impossible?

Yes, hella difficult though.

Click homepage for HOW-TO.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 06:38 PM
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some guage face is glue and some not, don't know what year or what trim line is? if spreenyk888 just want the silver look on the guage, try here:
http://www.importintelligence.com/FM...dex.html&-Edit
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 98&00Max
some guage face is glue and some not, don't know what year or what trim line is? if spreenyk888 just want the silver look on the guage, try here:
http://www.importintelligence.com/FM...dex.html&-Edit

I was not thrilled with the gauge faces I recieved from them.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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I agree, but the easiest and cheapest way. I swap mine with 01se guage (whole thing) plug nad play except had to remove the ses light bulb (not check engine if remember right), it will lid always, the rest are working find.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by spreenyk888
no one has said why it wont work. i dont wanna buy SE gauges and stick them in my cluster, i want to buy a whole SE cluster and swap them, so whoever wrote they are glued i ask whats glued? just tryingt o learn here but i dont understand why it wont work. nissan has always made the same gauge clusters for the maximas just changed the look of them for the SE's (at least for the 3rd and 4th gens.)
The only thing you could do is to swap the guage faces like you said. Its possible to do that but the risk is too much. Believe me I lost a whole cluster due to this. I screwed up my needles and I was so glad when my car was rear ended and totaled.
To achieve what you have on mind, You will have toremove the SE guage faces, calibrate your needles, remove your needles, glue the guage faces to right spots on your GXE cluster then put your needles back on.

This is very risky though
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ope2k4
This is very risky though
Quoted for tr00f.

The first time I removed my needles I was just lucky as hell.

The second time I removed my needles was with a dremel.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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I have a SE cluster in my GXE, now I never bothered changing my mileage to what its supposed to be, so my cluster reads 75K miles now vs 136K miles the car has now.

You can swap out the printed circuit board from the GXE cluster onto your new SE cluster and retain your actual mileage. I have ****ed around with white gauge faces (that actually looked good) on my GXE cluster, but the overlays where too thick and caused the needles to sometimes get stuck. My gas gauge never read right and required a lil bit of hammering on the top of the dash with a fist to make it move :P I got sick of the gauges getting stuck (once got stuck at 140MPH and didn't come back for almost a day) and got a SE cluster from DaveB for like 160 bux.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:49 PM
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Coming from someone who has SWAPPED OUT a 2001 SE gauge cluster for a 2000 GLE - the answer is

1) NO - the 2002/2003 cluster is different than the 2000/2001

2) YES, indeed. If you want exact mileage, go to a dealership (or talk to Dave B) and have it reprogrammed for your current mileage (only like $35). There are a bunch of little screws involved, but you CAN swap the SE gauges for a GXE or GLE cluster. Don't listen to 'noobs and those who know not but think they have the dictionary. Listen to those of us who have DONE the work.
Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ope2k4
The only thing you could do is to swap the guage faces like you said. Its possible to do that but the risk is too much. Believe me I lost a whole cluster due to this. I screwed up my needles and I was so glad when my car was rear ended and totaled.
To achieve what you have on mind, You will have toremove the SE guage faces, calibrate your needles, remove your needles, glue the guage faces to right spots on your GXE cluster then put your needles back on.

This is very risky though
There is NO RISK whatsoever if you are careful with what you do. You remove the ENTIRE GAUGE to transfer over to the other cluster, you don't even monkey around with the needles. I can do this in an hour, tops (I can have the cluster out of the dash within 15 minutes). It isn't rocket science.
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Originally Posted by spreenyk888
no one has said why it wont work. i dont wanna buy SE gauges and stick them in my cluster, i want to buy a whole SE cluster and swap them, so whoever wrote they are glued i ask whats glued? just tryingt o learn here but i dont understand why it wont work. nissan has always made the same gauge clusters for the maximas just changed the look of them for the SE's (at least for the 3rd and 4th gens.)
You can swap cluster for cluster between a 2000 and 2001 - as long as it matches auto trans or manual trans (otherwise, you won't have the P R N D 2 1 down the middle)
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You can't swap clusters between 00 and 01 models, they will NOT work. I tried putting a 00 cluster in my 01 and the speedo wasn't working, ABS light was also on. 01 model gets its speedo signal from the ABS wheel speed sensors, and has a diff ABS computer than the 00 model. I tried installing my 01 cluster in my friends 00 Maxima and his speedo wasn't working eighter.

MAKE sure that you are getting the correct cluster for your car, you CAN'T just assume that all 5th gen Maximas that share the 3.0L motor are the same, they are NOT. 01 is the transition year and alot of items on that year model are same as the 02-03 models.

Trust me, I've been up and down this alley along with auto climate controll swap years ago- before any of these topics came up on the .org
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 04:47 AM
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well thanks for all the input guys, looks like ill be trying to find an 01 SE cluster. if anyone finds one (especially with under 30K miles) let me know.
Old Dec 21, 2005 | 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by spreenyk888
well thanks for all the input guys, looks like ill be trying to find an 01 SE cluster. if anyone finds one (especially with under 30K miles) let me know.

I might be willing to part with my gauge faces...send me a pm...
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