5th Generation Maxima (2000-2003) Learn more about the 5th Generation Maxima, including the VQ30DE-K and VQ35DE engines.

any1 gone from auto to 6 speed on 3.5

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:47 PM
  #1  
khynex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 299
any1 gone from auto to 6 speed on 3.5

any1 gone from auto to 6 speed on 3.5?

just wondering
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:53 PM
  #2  
SR20DEN's Avatar
VQ Wizard
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,661
From: Charlotte, NC
I think at least one A33B has been converted but it was done by a salvage yard. There is little need to do this conversion from a performance standpoint.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:57 PM
  #3  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
yes maxs has did it. you looking fo someone to do it, contact me.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 06:59 PM
  #4  
khynex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 299
im looking to do it, not performance wise.....but fun wise....its 1 of those kicks and giggles feeling u get driving stick.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:05 PM
  #5  
Jasonb1982's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 758
From: Central PA
Have fun...but you are better off just selling yours and buying one.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:07 PM
  #6  
khynex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 299
doing the swap would be better then selling......selling would me ill have 2 take everything off....

here in miami panda_01 has done some swap w/ some miami .org ppl.....it will be the first 3.5 6 swap for sure but they've done 3.0 5 speed swap.....it would be interesting
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:09 PM
  #7  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
wouldnt you have to swap to a manual ECU also? plus cut holes in the floor?
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:12 PM
  #8  
khynex's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 299
the holes are already there and yes a manual ecu
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:35 PM
  #9  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
sounds expensive
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:41 PM
  #10  
Mass_Media's Avatar
Mass_Media™
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
To much work jus sell your car and buy a 6spd
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:03 PM
  #11  
99 SE-L
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
So much False Information in this Thread, I got a 2002 SE Auto with 95k currently and Tilley will be doing my 6 speed coversion in the summer, the tranny bolts right up, It will require a MT ECU, The swap is not difficult, Tilleys99 can perform this in 2 days.

Main parts list:

Trans. Shifter cables. Shifter box. Axles. Gas and brakes pedals. Flywheel. Clutch. Trans mount. Slave cylindr and clutch
Master cylinder

With labor being 500-600 the Swap should be around 2k maybe less , depending on the cost of Parts
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:12 PM
  #12  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
wow this sounds good, if i had enough money id be doin it right now. i think thats worth the .6-.9s gain in the quarter.
Old Jan 12, 2006 | 11:59 PM
  #13  
Darius's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 361
From: San Francisco, CA
Originally Posted by 99 SE-L
So much False Information in this Thread, I got a 2002 SE Auto with 95k currently and Tilley will be doing my 6 speed coversion in the summer, the tranny bolts right up, It will require a MT ECU, The swap is not difficult, Tilleys99 can perform this in 2 days.

Main parts list:

Trans. Shifter cables. Shifter box. Axles. Gas and brakes pedals. Flywheel. Clutch. Trans mount. Slave cylindr and clutch
Master cylinder

With labor being 500-600 the Swap should be around 2k maybe less , depending on the cost of Parts
you probably want new gauges too that dont have the "P R D 2 1" on them
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 05:58 AM
  #14  
boondoxmax's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,415
From: Boston, MA
The front springs are also different if you have stock springs. Don't know why nissan did this but there are 2 different part numbers for front springs for autos and manuals. The autos have stiffer front springs then the manuals. When I went from my auto to my 6peed I noticed it right away. the auto rode stiffer
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:24 AM
  #15  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
its not difficult guys. all you need is the parts and the swap can be done. its somewhat like doing a 5spd swap on a 4th gen.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:31 AM
  #16  
Mass_Media's Avatar
Mass_Media™
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
the engine is mounted different to. It wont bolt right up
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:33 AM
  #17  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Mass_Media
the engine is mounted different to. It wont bolt right up
dude stop spreading false info please. the position of the engine is the same.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:42 AM
  #18  
Mass_Media's Avatar
Mass_Media™
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
dude stop spreading false info please. the position of the engine is the same.
Where did you hear its the same? Its not, you can visually see it mounted different.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 09:51 AM
  #19  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
dude just think about it. it is not possible for the engine to be mounted in any different way. and yes the case of the auto and the manual trans are different but that doesnt mean you cant do a swap. i am guessing you still a new but with a bunch of posts and dont know much about the car you drive.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 10:11 AM
  #20  
Mass_Media's Avatar
Mass_Media™
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
dude just think about it. it is not possible for the engine to be mounted in any different way. and yes the case of the auto and the manual trans are different but that doesnt mean you cant do a swap. i am guessing you still a new but with a bunch of posts and dont know much about the car you drive.
http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...81&postcount=5

Go read about it

kthnxbye
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 11:20 AM
  #21  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Mass_Media

ok and what does that tell me? what mounting brackets on the motor? the only difference is the mount on the tranny. the motor doesnt have anything to do with the trans. the trans jsut bolts to the block and on the other side to the mount. there is nothing else. man i dotn even know why i am having a argument with a newbie that has no clue what he is talking about. dude go to the all motor forum and learn.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:45 PM
  #22  
boondoxmax's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,415
From: Boston, MA
^^ I know the motor mounts are different. Autos have electronic motor mounts while the 6speeds don't. Personally I don't believe its worth it. The cost would be bananas unless you have plenty of money to **** away just to have a 6speed.................NOT WORTH IT AT ALL........I had a auto and after awhile I wished I would have gotten the 6 speed, but my auto got totalled so I got a second chance not to make the same mistake so I picked up my 6 speed...................

Old Jan 13, 2006 | 03:27 PM
  #23  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Darius
you probably want new gauges too that dont have the "P R D 2 1" on them
i have an auto and my gauges dont say PRD21 on them, the shifter base does, but if youre gonna have a manual you cant leave that there anyway, unles you plan to only use 3 and 4 gears...
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 03:34 PM
  #24  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
Originally Posted by Hoooper
i have an auto and my gauges dont say PRD21 on them, the shifter base does, but if youre gonna have a manual you cant leave that there anyway
90% of your posts suggest that you don't know you're talking about.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:18 PM
  #25  
whazzzzuup's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,827
Originally Posted by Mass_Media
the engine is mounted different to. It wont bolt right up
How much different is it? I don't have two cars to compare. My friend with the 6-speed lives 40 miles away. Is there a way to modify the mounts or mounting locations? The reason I ask is because I had to drill new holes for the transmission mount for my H22 5-speed conversion in my Accord to make the motor sit correctly.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:20 PM
  #26  
whazzzzuup's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,827
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
ok and what does that tell me? what mounting brackets on the motor? the only difference is the mount on the tranny. the motor doesnt have anything to do with the trans. the trans jsut bolts to the block and on the other side to the mount. there is nothing else. man i dotn even know why i am having a argument with a newbie that has no clue what he is talking about. dude go to the all motor forum and learn.
Okay. I get it now. Just like the modification of a bottom f22 driver side bracket mated to a top h22 bracket/motor mount.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 04:27 PM
  #27  
vsamoylov
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
all that is needed to be modified is the mount whcih is bolted to the frame on the 6 speed maxima. the guy was just spreading false info on the motor sitting correctly so you can ignore that. its not a difficult swap to do if you have all the parts. the clutch pedal for example just is a direct bolt in and the brake pedal is replaced with a manual one. shfiter cables are run into the interior and the auto shifter assembly is replaced with a manual when which also uses the same holes. there is some electrical work but that is a breeze for me because i love messing around with wires nd electrical. like i said all the parts make everything go so much faster. for people that want to do this just look on car-part and your local junkyards for parts. if anybody needs to know what parts contact either me or tilley.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 05:12 PM
  #28  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
90% of your posts suggest that you don't know you're talking about.
and 100% of your replies show that you need a swift . if you have an auto and you see P R D 2 1 somewhere on your gauges please take a picture of it. cause i dont have that anywhere in my gauge cluster. It is however on the shifter base (the plastic thing with a post sticking out, topped by a leather ****). Ie: Park Reverse Neutral Drive 2nd gear 1st gear.
im saying if you do a conversion you cant leave the auto shift patter in because otherwise you wont be able to shift...
and if he means the thing in the middle of the cluster, he wont notice because IT WONT LIGHT UP!!!
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 05:18 PM
  #29  
99 SE-L
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by Hoooper
and 100% of your replies show that you need a swift . if you have an auto and you see P R D 2 1 somewhere on your gauges please take a picture of it. cause i dont have that anywhere in my gauge cluster. It is however on the shifter base (the plastic thing with a post sticking out, topped by a leather ****). Ie: Park Reverse Neutral Drive 2nd gear 1st gear.
im saying if you do a conversion you cant leave the auto shift patter in because otherwise you wont be able to shift...
and if he means the thing in the middle of the cluster, he wont notice because IT WONT LIGHT UP!!!
Dude ,you must have a Ghetto rigged Auto, All 5.5 Gen Autos have It, Also you can use a AT Gauge cluster on a MT just the P light will always be on!
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 05:47 PM
  #30  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
Maybe 02's didn't have it
Who gives a flying as.s **** if it doesn't light up after the conv.
PRND321
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:06 PM
  #31  
Jasonb1982's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 758
From: Central PA
Originally Posted by 99 SE-L
So much False Information in this Thread, I got a 2002 SE Auto with 95k currently and Tilley will be doing my 6 speed coversion in the summer, the tranny bolts right up, It will require a MT ECU, The swap is not difficult, Tilleys99 can perform this in 2 days.

Main parts list:

Trans. Shifter cables. Shifter box. Axles. Gas and brakes pedals. Flywheel. Clutch. Trans mount. Slave cylindr and clutch
Master cylinder

With labor being 500-600 the Swap should be around 2k maybe less , depending on the cost of Parts
However this guy is in sunny Florida and not horrible weather Pa like us. More cost added for travel/time....like I originally said...sell and buy. Believe me I've talked to tilley about it for mine and he's given the same advice.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:15 PM
  #32  
Zero Deuce SE's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,835
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Maybe 02's didn't have it
Who gives a flying as.s **** if it doesn't light up after the conv.
PRND321
I have it on my 02.
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:21 PM
  #33  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
Hoooper =
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 06:41 PM
  #34  
claudiusmaximas's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 328
so...back to the initial post...
Old Jan 13, 2006 | 08:20 PM
  #35  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
i have it, i used to own a chevelle and i was thinkin about the fat thing on the bottom of the gauges and wasnt really thinkin bout my car...i no . Who looks in the middle anyway? the gauges that matter are on the sides of that. the point is, if you really want to pay money to turn out 1 light, you can instead donate it to me and ill put some black construction paper in that slit.
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 12:20 AM
  #36  
Mass_Media's Avatar
Mass_Media™
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,812
Originally Posted by vsamoylov
ok and what does that tell me? what mounting brackets on the motor? the only difference is the mount on the tranny. the motor doesnt have anything to do with the trans. the trans jsut bolts to the block and on the other side to the mount. there is nothing else. man i dotn even know why i am having a argument with a newbie that has no clue what he is talking about. dude go to the all motor forum and learn.
Newbie bish plz....don't even start with me.

Why would i need to read up on a 6spd swap when I have a 6spd?
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 01:22 AM
  #37  
NmexMAX's Avatar
dot dot dot ...
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 34,576
From: Santa Fe, NM
B!tch a$$ *****....
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 07:10 AM
  #38  
GBAUER's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 132,419
From: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Wash. DC
It's not that difficult. I've looked into it. NmexMax: get a life, dude. What the hell is wrong with you anyway? You're always posting completly useless crap. I've seen exactly one post where you didn't have a smart-a$$, useless comment to give. Yah, sure, I may joke a little, but I'm not doing it to be hateful.
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:14 AM
  #39  
k2max_driver's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 319
hey hey hey back to the manual tranny swap. i'm considering just doing a swap because i have yet to find a low mileage six-speed on the west coast. i want to trade my car in so i can't buy from a private seller and i prefer to buy a black charcoal silver or blue max with black interior and some options. i had an oppurtunity to buy an 02 at lithia nissan but they were asking 22k with 40k miles and they only wanted to give me 10.5k for my trade 02 auto 65k. so since i cant find one might as well keep mine and do a swap. used tranny's aren't cheap i found some with 30-40k and they were asking 12-18 hundred and i still need all the other parts. labor would be nothing for me and i have access to everything i need (lift, tools, etc.) and i have a wholesale liscence but its hard to find parts that are still in good condition
Old Jan 14, 2006 | 11:58 AM
  #40  
Hoooper
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Originally Posted by GBAUER
It's not that difficult. I've looked into it. NmexMax: get a life, dude. What the hell is wrong with you anyway? You're always posting completly useless crap. I've seen exactly one post where you didn't have a smart-a$$, useless comment to give. Yah, sure, I may joke a little, but I'm not doing it to be hateful.




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:20 AM.