18" 04 SE rims on a 00-03

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View Poll Results: Which rims you like better for 2000 SE Maxima?
Stock 17" rims
34
34.34%
04 SE 18" rims
65
65.66%
Voters: 99. You may not vote on this poll
Feb 10, 2006 | 10:49 AM
  #1  
Does anyone have pics of the 04 SE 18" on a 2000-2003 max? Wondering how it will look. (I'm sure there's pics here but can't find 'em).
Also, wondering if the stock tire size 245 50 18 will fit on a non-lowered car?

Thanks!
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Feb 10, 2006 | 11:20 AM
  #2  
The 04se wheels look good only if the car is lowered.
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Feb 10, 2006 | 11:43 AM
  #3  
on a lowered max they will rub (my experience with 245/50/18)..on a non lowered they will fit no problem

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Feb 10, 2006 | 12:09 PM
  #4  
IMO, it is almost impossible for any rims to look good on a non-lowered Max. I say use your money to lower it a little first.
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Feb 10, 2006 | 12:34 PM
  #5  
+1 to lowering. The only reason I did my 6th gen rims first is because I drive a GXE. I had to ditch the hubcaps. But the 2" drop came shortly thereafter. Im running 235/40/18s on S-Techs/Illuminas, for the past year and a half, without a single problem.
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Feb 10, 2006 | 12:41 PM
  #6  
Only if the car is lowered...
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Feb 10, 2006 | 01:16 PM
  #7  
Quote: Does anyone have pics of the 04 SE 18" on a 2000-2003 max? Wondering how it will look. (I'm sure there's pics here but can't find 'em).
Also, wondering if the stock tire size 245 50 18 will fit on a non-lowered car?

Thanks!
SEARCH HARDER!
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Feb 10, 2006 | 01:23 PM
  #8  
Hi I'm New To The Forum...i'm One Of The Few Females Who Is Into Tweeking Up Their Cars I See..but I Love It!! I Need Some Suggestions..well First I Have A 00 Maxima Gle ...i Really Hate The Body Roll That I Have ..and I Was Wondering If You Reccommend Me Getting Some 235-40-18's On It Or Keep My Stock's And Just Lower It 2 Inches ..what Would Stop The Body Roll..i've Had My Car A Year And I'm Still Not Use To It..nothing Is Broken Like Anti Sway Bars Or Anything Like That I Just Hate The Body Roll...any Suggestions?
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Feb 10, 2006 | 01:29 PM
  #9  
Quote: Hi I'm New To The Forum...i'm One Of The Few Females Who Is Into Tweeking Up Their Cars I See..but I Love It!! I Need Some Suggestions..well First I Have A 00 Maxima Gle ...i Really Hate The Body Roll That I Have ..and I Was Wondering If You Reccommend Me Getting Some 235-40-18's On It Or Keep My Stock's And Just Lower It 2 Inches ..what Would Stop The Body Roll..i've Had My Car A Year And I'm Still Not Use To It..nothing Is Broken Like Anti Sway Bars Or Anything Like That I Just Hate The Body Roll...any Suggestions?
Try not hijacking other threads next time. Your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar. Lowering it and buying a RSB will help out, yes. Do this before upgrading to a larger tire/wheel size. That will not improve your handling.
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Feb 10, 2006 | 01:31 PM
  #10  
Quote: Hi I'm New To The Forum...i'm One Of The Few Females Who Is Into Tweeking Up Their Cars I See..but I Love It!! I Need Some Suggestions..well First I Have A 00 Maxima Gle ...i Really Hate The Body Roll That I Have ..and I Was Wondering If You Reccommend Me Getting Some 235-40-18's On It Or Keep My Stock's And Just Lower It 2 Inches ..what Would Stop The Body Roll..i've Had My Car A Year And I'm Still Not Use To It..nothing Is Broken Like Anti Sway Bars Or Anything Like That I Just Hate The Body Roll...any Suggestions?
progress rear sway bar!- theres a group deal/sale going on with them now
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Feb 10, 2006 | 01:37 PM
  #11  
Quote: Only if the car is lowered...
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Feb 10, 2006 | 01:51 PM
  #12  
Thanks guys, I knew I'd get a great answer here!
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Feb 10, 2006 | 06:03 PM
  #13  
Quote: Hi I'm New To The Forum...i'm One Of The Few Females Who Is Into Tweeking Up Their Cars I See..but I Love It!! I Need Some Suggestions..well First I Have A 00 Maxima Gle ...i Really Hate The Body Roll That I Have ..and I Was Wondering If You Reccommend Me Getting Some 235-40-18's On It Or Keep My Stock's And Just Lower It 2 Inches ..what Would Stop The Body Roll..i've Had My Car A Year And I'm Still Not Use To It..nothing Is Broken Like Anti Sway Bars Or Anything Like That I Just Hate The Body Roll...any Suggestions?
i just recently joined this site as well, and from experience if you are not educated on the rules of the forum these guys will eat you alive. it's ok not to know about your car as most will help you but there are a small minority that act like they were just born with the knowledge and never had to learn it but welcome and do what i did and just get lost in the stickies for awhile to boost your knowledge. Everyone says to look in the stickies and i always just said yeah yeah yeah until i did....lots of useful info, just have to take the time and read up.

also i had the stock 16's on my car and upgraded to 18's and left a huge diff. in cornering/handeling/grip but still feel the bodyroll you speak of so i'd say stick to what semy2k said and lower and/or rsb for bodyroll.....H&R's my next mod.....

and if you have the stock 16's like i did or hubcaps i'd say go for the 04 18's before drop as anything imho looks better than gle 16's.
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Feb 11, 2006 | 12:55 PM
  #14  
Quote: on a lowered max they will rub (my experience with 245/50/18)..on a non lowered they will fit no problem

of course they will rub. 245/50/18?

245/40/18 is the correct size or if you want your speedo to read as correctly as possible, get 235/40/18
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Feb 11, 2006 | 01:42 PM
  #15  
Quote: Try not hijacking other threads next time. Your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar. Lowering it and buying a RSB will help out, yes. Do this before upgrading to a larger tire/wheel size. That will not improve your handling.
Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.
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Feb 11, 2006 | 01:46 PM
  #16  
Quote: Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.
tell me about it and when you prove them wrong they ban you
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Feb 11, 2006 | 01:52 PM
  #17  
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Feb 11, 2006 | 05:09 PM
  #18  
Quote: Does anyone have pics of the 04 SE 18" on a 2000-2003 max? Wondering how it will look. (I'm sure there's pics here but can't find 'em).
Also, wondering if the stock tire size 245 50 18 will fit on a non-lowered car?

Thanks!
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Feb 11, 2006 | 09:35 PM
  #19  
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Feb 11, 2006 | 11:03 PM
  #20  
Quote: Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.
If you've been around this site at all (since you obviously have being a member since '01) its well known that the 5th gen's handling is greatly improved by adding a REAR sway bar. There is typically no mention of a front sway bar, because it's basically common knowledge, which is why people never post about it in contrast to the front strut tower braces. Stop trying to generalize all moderators because you've obviously had issues with ones in the past.

Quote: tell me about it and when you prove them wrong they ban you
you too
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Feb 11, 2006 | 11:06 PM
  #21  
Quote: Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.
Sounds like youve had an issue with A moderator. Trying to geralize all of us is a bit extreme dont ya think? Not to mention if whatever issue youve had in the past was warranted or not would prove to be irrelevent here.
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Feb 11, 2006 | 11:07 PM
  #22  
Quote: tell me about it and when you prove them wrong they ban you

Please dont even go there.....
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Feb 11, 2006 | 11:27 PM
  #23  
Quote: Does anyone have pics of the 04 SE 18" on a 2000-2003 max? Wondering how it will look. (I'm sure there's pics here but can't find 'em).
Also, wondering if the stock tire size 245 50 18 will fit on a non-lowered car?

Thanks!
Why on earth would you want to put a 50 profile tire on that rim? You should be using no more than a 40 profile on that width and size for your car!
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Feb 12, 2006 | 08:01 AM
  #24  
Quote: If you've been around this site at all (since you obviously have being a member since '01) its well known that the 5th gen's handling is greatly improved by adding a REAR sway bar. There is typically no mention of a front sway bar, because it's basically common knowledge, which is why people never post about it in contrast to the front strut tower braces. Stop trying to generalize all moderators because you've obviously had issues with ones in the past.



you too
rear sway bars do not greatly improve by adding a rear sway bar. there is a improvement but not one that is so huge like springs or adjustable shocks.
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Feb 12, 2006 | 08:18 AM
  #25  
how are those replica gen6 wheels on ebay, they any different to the oem like weight or anything or are they junk??
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Feb 12, 2006 | 09:48 AM
  #26  
Quote: Sounds like youve had an issue with A moderator. Trying to geralize all of us is a bit extreme dont ya think? Not to mention if whatever issue youve had in the past was warranted or not would prove to be irrelevent here.
When I made the statement about semy2k2go and moderators etc, it wasn't meant to offend moderators but it apparently came across that way. I just know that new members can't get enough information fast enough because they are so interested in learning more about thier cars.

However most answers are either replied to by some of the less experienced members which doesn't help or a moderator will step in and say "use the search". It would not take that long for a moderator to use their own search abilities and maybe post a link that would send the Newb on the right track.

Using the search was an option for all members dating back to when I started as a member in 01' until one day that changed and now searching was reserved only for those that donated. I felt that I had learned quite a bit of valuable information from this site and wanted to continue enjoying the search function so I donated via paypal. I expected to have the subtitle "Donating Member" placed under my screenname but I never was and consequently was never awarded Search priveledges. Needless to say after emailing past maxima.org owners/moderators with not a single answer, I just gave up.

I personally have Never had any problems or issues with any moderators on this site as I rarely post. I have been here for some time now but I still never really understood the hierchy. All in All this is a great place to learn and share valuable information about our cars and I have enjoyed learning from everyones collective experiences.
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Feb 12, 2006 | 04:01 PM
  #27  
Quote: Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.
+1 for moderators
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Feb 12, 2006 | 04:53 PM
  #28  
Quote: Does anyone have pics of the 04 SE 18" on a 2000-2003 max? Wondering how it will look. (I'm sure there's pics here but can't find 'em).
Also, wondering if the stock tire size 245 50 18 will fit on a non-lowered car?

Thanks!
The poll says 17" stock for the 2000 SE, but I believe the stock size is 16". As for the size you listed, it isn't the stock size for the 2004 SE. The stock size is 225/55/17 for the 2004 SE. You can check what sizes will fit (non lowered) by going to any tire sale website such as tirerack.com or discounttire.com.

What sizes will work lowered all depends on how much you lower the car and if you go with the 17" stockers or 18" upgrades.

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Quote: Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.

If you've been around this site at all (since you obviously have being a member since '01) its well known that the 5th gen's handling is greatly improved by adding a REAR sway bar. There is typically no mention of a front sway bar, because it's basically common knowledge, which is why people never post about it in contrast to the front strut tower braces. Stop trying to generalize all moderators because you've obviously had issues with ones in the past.


Quote: tell me about it and when you prove them wrong they ban you

you too
First, this isn't directed at the moderators or members. It's just an opinion of the situation. There is no point in arguing over a damn sway bar. Common knowledge isn't common to newbs and they come here looking for advice, people either give it or ask them to search. Either way there is no reason to bicker over it.

There are plenty of good moderators, in fact I have only seen one or two behave in a fashion I didn't agree with. Saying that moderators - and not specifying is basically making it a generalization - think they know everything is a bit over the top. If they're wrong, politely correct them and leave it at that. You're just instigating something by going at them like you were, AllGo. But this is all just IMO. On to next topic!
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Feb 12, 2006 | 07:14 PM
  #29  
Quote: rear sway bars do not greatly improve by adding a rear sway bar. there is a improvement but not one that is so huge like springs or adjustable shocks.
They may not make as big of a difference on the 4th gens, but do A LOT for us 5th gen guys.
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Feb 12, 2006 | 08:18 PM
  #30  
mine were rubbing in the rear on that lil bolt that is attachted to the bumper, just bent it up with a pair of plyers and hasnt rubbed since, even with 3 people in the back goin over some big bumps
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Feb 12, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Feb 13, 2006 | 07:12 AM
  #32  
Quote: They may not make as big of a difference on the 4th gens, but do A LOT for us 5th gen guys.
again not true. everything on the 5th gen got stiffer and alot stiffer then the 4th gen. and by everythign i mean all the body welds, the front subframe, the front sway bar and etc
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Feb 13, 2006 | 10:11 AM
  #33  
i love the 18" 04 rims and the 18" G35 coupe rims. i suggest lowering them first. ive seen some crazy wheel gaps which would make ur max foogly looking.
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Feb 13, 2006 | 10:59 AM
  #34  
Quote: progress rear sway bar!- theres a group deal/sale going on with them now
Link??? I searched the GD forum and didn't find it.
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Feb 13, 2006 | 06:55 PM
  #35  
Quote: again not true. everything on the 5th gen got stiffer and alot stiffer then the 4th gen. and by everythign i mean all the body welds, the front subframe, the front sway bar and etc
And since I and all these other members who confirm the RSB does a lot for our cars, you would know more I guess
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Feb 13, 2006 | 07:24 PM
  #36  
Quote: Funny how "moderators" think they know everything. The comment made that "your car doesn't come with an anti-sway bar" would be incorrect as all Maximas have one up front. You would have been better served if you would have mentioned that Rear Sway Bars weren't a factory part on 95-03 max's.
Further, Larger wheel and tires WILL improve some handling characteristics especially in regards to overall grip and braking ability.
it's funny how "non-moderators" think they know everything too...

actually, you're both wrong....both you and Tim.

The 5th gen maxima comes FROM THE FACTORY with both a front and a rear anti-sway bar. The rear sway bar is INSIDE the rear beam. It is not a particularly big RSB, but it is a RSB nonetheless, and it is an internal part of the rear beam, as I mentioned. Why don't you go look under the beam axle of your maxima - you can clearly see the sway bar there.

The aftermarket RSB's are considerably stiffer and do not REPLACE the factory RSB, but add to their stiffness instead.

As to your comment about wheels/tires - try again.

I'll take my 5zigen 17x8's (with shaved 245/45/17 tires) and run circles around any maxima here with the same suspension as me with 19" wheels, and outhandle them in every respect, including BRAKING. Heavier, larger diameter wheels do NOT improve braking distances, as rotational mass = rotational inertia, which is more difficult to stop. It's not the diameter of the wheel, it is the width of the rim. You can put a 17x9 wheel on the car or you can put a 19x7.5...the 17x9 will handle better in every respect, all other factors being equal.

I will cede to you that in a "general" sense, a smaller sidewall can improve handling, but this is only true up to 17" wheels, or perhaps even 18" wheels and tires. Once you go past that, the extra perimeter weight of the wheel is actually hurting your handling by adding unsprung weight.

Why not check out the autocross section of the org and tell me how many people in there run wheels bigger than 17".....I'll tell you how many: almost none. In fact, most of the best autocrossing maximas are running 15" or 16" wheels....and I think we know a little bit about handling. I run 17's to clear my front brakes, but I would rather run 16's for autocross - the ultimate test of how your car "handles".


btw, sorry to the originator for continuing this hijack of your thread.

To answer your question: there is a long, long thread in the wheels/tires forum showing pics of 5th gens with 6th gen wheels/350Z wheels/G35 wheels...check it out.
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Feb 13, 2006 | 07:27 PM
  #37  
Quote: The poll says 17" stock for the 2000 SE, but I believe the stock size is 16".
early 2000 SE models had the 5-spoke 16" wheels. later model 2000 SE models (like mine) came from the factory with the 6-spoke 17" wheels. They changed the factory wheels midway through the production year.
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Feb 13, 2006 | 08:30 PM
  #38  
Does anyone know the specs on the new 5 spoke wheels on the 06 Max's. I saw one outside my bank today and it looked real smooth. I think they're 18's.
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Feb 14, 2006 | 06:38 AM
  #39  
Quote: it's funny how "non-moderators" think they know everything too...

actually, you're both wrong....both you and Tim.



The 5th gen maxima comes FROM THE FACTORY with both a front and a rear anti-sway bar. The rear sway bar is INSIDE the rear beam. It is not a particularly big RSB, but it is a RSB nonetheless, and it is an internal part of the rear beam, as I mentioned. Why don't you go look under the beam axle of your maxima - you can clearly see the sway bar there.

The aftermarket RSB's are considerably stiffer and do not REPLACE the factory RSB, but add to their stiffness instead.

As to your comment about wheels/tires - try again.

I'll take my 5zigen 17x8's (with shaved 245/45/17 tires) and run circles around any maxima here with the same suspension as me with 19" wheels, and outhandle them in every respect, including BRAKING. Heavier, larger diameter wheels do NOT improve braking distances, as rotational mass = rotational inertia, which is more difficult to stop. It's not the diameter of the wheel, it is the width of the rim. You can put a 17x9 wheel on the car or you can put a 19x7.5...the 17x9 will handle better in every respect, all other factors being equal.

I will cede to you that in a "general" sense, a smaller sidewall can improve handling, but this is only true up to 17" wheels, or perhaps even 18" wheels and tires. Once you go past that, the extra perimeter weight of the wheel is actually hurting your handling by adding unsprung weight.

Why not check out the autocross section of the org and tell me how many people in there run wheels bigger than 17".....I'll tell you how many: almost none. In fact, most of the best autocrossing maximas are running 15" or 16" wheels....and I think we know a little bit about handling. I run 17's to clear my front brakes, but I would rather run 16's for autocross - the ultimate test of how your car "handles".


btw, sorry to the originator for continuing this hijack of your thread.

To answer your question: there is a long, long thread in the wheels/tires forum showing pics of 5th gens with 6th gen wheels/350Z wheels/G35 wheels...check it out.
I respect your knowledge regarding maxima's as you have obviously raced and upgraded your vehicle for mild competition purposes however the bar under the rear beam you speak of is NOT a sway bar. There is absolutely no way that it can create any force against any moving part of the rear suspension or reduce body roll. It serves only as additional mass/strength to the upside down U shaped rear beam.

As far as my comment of Larger wheels/tires, I wasn't referring to those blinging 19's and 20's, but many manufacturers ARE choosing these as stock sizes on there high performance vehicles. However our modestly powered Maxima's with our sloppy chassis's surely won't benefit from these sizes. I guess I should have mentioned "wider" wheels and "lower" profile tires will enhance grip, turn-in and braking characteristics. I guess the assumption would be that an aftermarket wheel/tire setup would generally offer both.
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Feb 14, 2006 | 06:58 AM
  #40  
Quote: it's funny how "non-moderators" think they know everything too...

actually, you're both wrong....both you and Tim.

The 5th gen maxima comes FROM THE FACTORY with both a front and a rear anti-sway bar. The rear sway bar is INSIDE the rear beam. It is not a particularly big RSB, but it is a RSB nonetheless, and it is an internal part of the rear beam, as I mentioned. Why don't you go look under the beam axle of your maxima - you can clearly see the sway bar there.

The aftermarket RSB's are considerably stiffer and do not REPLACE the factory RSB, but add to their stiffness instead.

As to your comment about wheels/tires - try again.

I'll take my 5zigen 17x8's (with shaved 245/45/17 tires) and run circles around any maxima here with the same suspension as me with 19" wheels, and outhandle them in every respect, including BRAKING. Heavier, larger diameter wheels do NOT improve braking distances, as rotational mass = rotational inertia, which is more difficult to stop. It's not the diameter of the wheel, it is the width of the rim. You can put a 17x9 wheel on the car or you can put a 19x7.5...the 17x9 will handle better in every respect, all other factors being equal.

I will cede to you that in a "general" sense, a smaller sidewall can improve handling, but this is only true up to 17" wheels, or perhaps even 18" wheels and tires. Once you go past that, the extra perimeter weight of the wheel is actually hurting your handling by adding unsprung weight.

Why not check out the autocross section of the org and tell me how many people in there run wheels bigger than 17".....I'll tell you how many: almost none. In fact, most of the best autocrossing maximas are running 15" or 16" wheels....and I think we know a little bit about handling. I run 17's to clear my front brakes, but I would rather run 16's for autocross - the ultimate test of how your car "handles".


btw, sorry to the originator for continuing this hijack of your thread.

To answer your question: there is a long, long thread in the wheels/tires forum showing pics of 5th gens with 6th gen wheels/350Z wheels/G35 wheels...check it out.
its actually a torsion bar not a sway bar.
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