one week ago i installed, eibach prokit with tokico blues, the ride is terrible. i live in the city and on the highway they are great but on the city roads i can't go faster than 20 mph without punishing my kidneys.

so here comes my question, i have to change my springs out, but i can never go back to that stock wheel gap. i'm considering either going h&r front/stock back, h&r front/h-tech rear, or h-tech all around. i know h&rs are said to be the best riding spirng around, but don't lower the front quite enough, i have also heard the h-tech offer a pretty good ride, i just haven't heard a through review of ride quality in the city, the roads where i live are bad, very bad. i know i'm not gonna get a stock ride but i want something as close to posible, i do want to have to avoid any imperfection in the road, opinions are greatly apreciated.

 

http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthr...opular+springs

http://www.forums.maxima.org/showthr...opular+springs

 

Well I had Eibachs before for my Max, they were my first springs. I agree, the ride is quite bumpy, because the roads here realy SUCK!!! Well my next sep us was H&Rs. They were much better in ride quality then then Eibachs, but the front had that wheel gap I didn't like. Then I bought H-techs and installed those only in the front, left my rear H&Rs on. The results = 100% satisfied!!!
I also think that front H&Rs with rear H-techs will be a pretty even set up, and will defenately be better then Eibach in ride quality. I ofcourse prefer my set up, but it's very hard to find those for sale alone. Well see the link below of my set up.

H-tech + H&R.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=461385

here's another one with Eibach + H&R.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=450203

Also see this link, very interesting.
http://www.innerbean.com/housecor/sp..._decision.html

BTW just to tell you that I tried a couple spring set ups: Eibachs all over, front Eibachs with rear H&Rs, H&Rs all over, and my final one right now H-techs in front with H&Rs in the back.

 

I'm rollin Progress and lovin it. the stance is right and it rides smooth.

 

I started with the eibach and the blues and hated it also. Then I switched out to the Illuminas and the eibachs and it was better. Then I switched out to the Illuminas and the H-Techs and the rie is perfect. Could't ask for a better setup.

 

so in your opinion how do the h-tech stack up against the h&r in ride quality, i got a system in my trunk so i'm not worried about the back siting higher, and i trust tein's performance record. my main concern is ride quality

 

im rolling on H-Techs and i live in NYC. the ride is very good, when i had my stock 17's on. i actually felt it better than my stock setup, now im on 20's so it is a lil harhser, but overall a nice ride and a nice drop.

im running H-Techs w/ KYB GR-2

 

Well from what I know the rear H&Rs are better in ride quality then rear H-techs, + they're lower by 1/2". And front H-techs a little better then front H&Rs in ride comfort + lower by 1/2" in the front. That set up (H-techs in front, H&Rs in rear) is so perfect together when you combine them, it's like they meant to be together. That's why I think If H&Rs had their front springs like front H-techs, they would've been the best springs ever.

 

I just put h-techs on last week, and the roads here aren't good at all. it takes the bumps alright. one of my buddies has progress and it feels like the whole car is about to fall apart. overall, h-techs handle awesome and can't complain about the looks either. i'd stay away from the h&r's just because of the higher front end, but if you have the money to do the combo, go for it...

 

what about the track record that h&r has with the rear looking as though its sagging? does that only apply to H&R's all around?

what i believe it to mean is that with h&r all around the rears sit lower that the front....

i'm trying to get the perfect spring combo for my ride. just ordered illuminas.

thanks org

 

well u should not have paired Eibach with blues to begin with, theyd blow the shocks rather fast. i got h techs and in in NYC with terrible roads. h techs are very forgiving, dont handel all that well but better than stock obviously (w/illuminas). they give a nice drop, a bit low even, but i know they should be softer than HR, tho ive driven on HR and they are soft too. hard choise there.

 

i got used h&r rears for sale if you want them. they have about 20k miles on them. i had them all around, and went back to oem in back+h&r in front. shoot me a pm if you want to get the rears only.

 

I have H-techs w/illuminas and drive mostly around NJ.

Settings on 2 its like stock, wife likes it
Settings on 3 its firmer and fun, Wife loves it
Settings on 4 rides like on a rail thru the turns, CD skips, coffee ejects from holder over severe pot holes. I love it
Havent set them on 5 yet.

Have not driven it in NYC as of yet, but will have them set on 3 from now on.

 

I have H&R rear and H-Tech front like Shurik...I like the stance better and the ride quality is nearly identical in my opinion... The front feels a little more planted and solid with H-Techs in front over the H&R but it may be slightly rougher...nothing very noticeable however...pic in my sig...if you're not going to mix and match, I would suggest the H-Techs.

 

if you do so much city driving id stick with H&R

 

I have H&Rs front and Maxspeeds rear. My struts are OEM up front and Blues in the rear. Best damn setup I've ever felt on a 5th gen Maxima.

I used to have Maxspeeds + Tokico Blues all around. The handling was downright sloppy compared to how it is now. I truly believe I have found the ultimate suspension setup in my experimenting.

 

Ive read on some sites that you can use h-techs with stock struts i wonder how that would ride/handle? I have h-techs/gr-2s on my 99' and love how they look but they ride hard over big bumps.

 

i think thats what i'm gonna go for. i'll sell the the eibach/tokico combo, pick up some h-techs, run h-techs/stock struts, drive them till they blow then buy some illuminas.

 

H&R's + illuminas rock. A lot of guys on the org swear by it. I know I do.

When I first put them on, the back end sagged by around half an inch. But now they've settled in and the back is only .2 inches lower than front. I can't see it, so it doesn't bother me.

My wife complains about the ride -- I run setting 2 on the front struts and 4 on the back. Personally I think it rides great...slightly stiffer than stock. But at these settings, it's like Digger01 said, rides like it's on rails in the twisties. Completely neutral balance all around. The wife says its a lot stiffer than stock -- I don't know what she's complaining about, her daily driver is a C5 vette! I guess that's why, she expects the 4-door max to ride like a buick or something. yeesh. lol

 

I'm also contemplating about installing aftermarket suspension. My original thought was to get some Blues and run them with the stock springs since I really don't care if the car is lower. (However, is would be nice to have the front dropped to have an even ride height.)

But after reading all these testimonials I think I may have to get some springs as well, since the stock rear springs blow, with once person in the back seat I feel the load. I also think the struts are crap too, they handle bumps like shiet.

My problem lies here, I want a firm ride, not much firmer then stock, that handles bumps well, and I know if I go aftermarket there's a high chance it will feel like my car will rattle apart over bumps. I'm not 17 anymore and a bouncy car that handles bumps and potholes like crap won't fly with me. Why can't Nissan make OEM suspension like BMW?

I'm looking for H&R owners with Blues, Illuminas or stock struts that I can take a ride in their car. Any takers near NJ?

 

Mind posting a pic so I can check out your ride height?

 

[QUOTE=zmax26]I'm also contemplating about installing aftermarket suspension. My original thought was to get some Blues and run them with the stock springs since I really don't care if the car is lower. (However, is would be nice to have the front dropped to have an even ride height.)

But after reading all these testimonials I think I may have to get some springs as well, since the stock rear springs blow, with once person in the back seat I feel the load. I also think the struts are crap too, they handle bumps like shiet.

My problem lies here, I want a firm ride, not much firmer then stock, that handles bumps well, and I know if I go aftermarket there's a high chance it will feel like my car will rattle apart over bumps. I'm not 17 anymore and a bouncy car that handles bumps and potholes like crap won't fly with me. Why can't Nissan make OEM suspension like BMW?QUOTE]
if u dont want the bouncy ride id stay away from blues with stiff springs. sounds like what u need is a set of illuminas with HR, you will not be disapointed! i have illuminas with h techs wich is a bit lower and maybe like 5% softer than HRs

 

if u dont want the bouncy ride id stay away from blues with stiff springs. sounds like what u need is a set of illuminas with HR, you will not be disapointed! i have illuminas with h techs wich is a bit lower and maybe like 5% softer than HRs[/QUOTE]

I need to audition a setup!

 

wow, wicked responses gentlemen, thank you.

kruppa's setup i like except for that gap in front. for my setup i was looking for something a little lower than that. the back looks great though.

i think my only options for something a lil lower would have to be progress or s-tech? but i haven't heard my fair share of positove reviwes about s-tech either..

still slightly bewildered...

 

also not looking to bounce around in a max. illumina's ordered for $430 shipped to my door! thanks performancepeddler.com!

 

If you want any measure of comfort and no bouncing, then do NOT get S-techs. Been there done that.

I'm pretty pleased with my H-Techs and Illuminas, but will be changing them up this weekend with a hybrid setup of sorts. I'll reserve further comment/judgment until I'm done with that this weekend.

 

This is the problem...S-Techs - trust me I've ridden in maximas with them and it's not fun...The Progress is only .1 inches lower than the H-Tech and they are definitely rougher which is why i went with H-Tech...many people like the even look or even raked forward (i personally would rather have the back a tad lower than the front as is my case now)...Coilovers are too much and too rough for my taste as well so my setup is as low as I'm willing to go considering my preferences which is why it's what I have...I could put H-Tech in the rear too so I wouldn't get the wheel gap comments bc then the back would be a tad higher or maybe even with the front, but I like the handling/comfort now and I don't mind the lower rear...to each his own...I suggest H-Techs all around as I said before.

 

What about Progress spring setup with kyb agx shocks has anyone ever done that..? I am looking to buy a good suspension setup..

 

Very happy with H-techs/illuminas. Just installed and have them set at 4 all around. I think it rides smoother/more planted than stock and fun on curves. I don't think the ride is that bumpy even with 18s on.

 

just ordered the same setup as you. hopefully it sits nice enough for me.

i have 18's as well, glad to know that the ride isnt compromised.

 

I'm on 18"s (245/40/18) and have the same setup. The ride is great and handling is great also.

 

I just did a quick search on froogle...found out that coximports.com is cheaper by 30 dollars at least. They also offer free shipping...

 

Do they have it in stock though? Sometimes they sell it at a very good price and not have anything in stock. I ordered mine from performancepeddler.com and recieved it in 2-3 days.

 

dont forget that Steve at SCO matches prices. Why not support someone who supports us?

 

Definitely...I would have bought my illuminas from him too but at the time he couldn't match the price for me. I did however get H-techs from Steve. Great guy and great service.

 

Ok guys I know I dug up an old thread but I figured it'd be less of a flame fest this way. Anyway my question is: Would there be anything wrong with H&R springs in the front and H techs in the rear? Are the rear H techs softer than the rear H&R? From my research it looks like they are both about the same drop, maybe the H&R being a little lower. Or would it be better to just put the H&R in the front and leave the rear stock?

 

Has anyone tried Progress and Illuminas? Should I dump the Progress if I get Illuminas?

 

it would be better to have H&R front and rear so your spring rates match up to each other.

 

Ok so you're saying that shurik and NYPD-arnold and others that have hybrid setups aren't smart or what? I probably wont ever be in an autocross event so performance isn't on the top of the list. According to housecors site, the h techs sit about a 1/2" higher in the back than the H&Rs. I thought this would help the stance out while still retaining the H&R ride quality up front.

 

I have been driving in NY with Tein H Techs front & rear & Illuminas set to 2 front 3 rear for over 2 years now & have no complaints with this set up I actually switch quite often from 2/3 in front. The ride is nice/responsive not bouncy. Bumps are harder then stock but that is to be expected. You cant go wrong with H-Techs & Illuminas.