Im about to purchase all the necessary parts to install the 2k4 calipers and rotors on my 5.5 gen. I have been doing the necessary searching and understand that the 2k4 calipers and rotors should bolt directly up without any kind of relocation kit. So heres what all I plan on purchasing:
1. 2k4 OEM Calipers from Dave B.
2. RTP Rotors (Blanks) for 2k4 calipers
3. Hawk HPS front brake pads
4. SS brake lines
5. Brake fluid (not sure which brand and how much to get)

First off I have never changed brakes out on a car. I am somewhat mechanically inclined and dont mind trying DIY projects....I just take my time and research as much as possible before diving in. Are there any other parts or hardware necessary for this upgrade that I have failed to mention? How difficult of a job is this? I plan on leaving my rear brakes alone until they wear out or start causing me problems.....is this a bad idea, please comment. I assume that bleeding the brake system is necessary for all brake jobs, if so, is it a good idea to buy a brake bleed pump? and should I go ahead replace the brake fluid or just bleed the system (Im at 63K currently). And one more thing, is it necessary to turn new rotors to make sure they are perfectly flat when slapping on new brake pads? Comments appreciated as always...
Mike

 

I think #2 you meant Rotors, and not calipers, right?

Also, I ordered a hardware kit from DaveB at the time, I think it included shims and spring clips?

Call him and talk to him about it. He'll know what you're talking about.

And no, you should not have to turn new rotors with new pads.

 

This is an upgrade I plan to do in the future. As far as other parts needed, you're covered, except maybe do you have a 10mm line wrench for the brake lines? Also might want to pickup a bleeder cup, they are cheap, handy, no mess and worth their weight in gold IMO , see my domain link below for pics of these items, I used them when I did my 300Zx BBK on my old 4th gen:
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/560141/5

IMO I would leave the whole brake system bleed and do it at a later date just to elminate any added problems you may encounter. Make sure everything is good first.

Leaving your rear brakes won't be a problem at all, there are no ill effects whatsoever.

No you don't need to turn new rotors but there is a pretty essential bedding procedure which will give you 100% braking performance:
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm

Good luck and get back to us on how it went and your opinions of the upgrade, I'd appreciate a PM

 

its a simple job. calipers are held in place with 2 bolts to the hub. disconect the line and etc. and no you dont need to buy a pump to bleed the brakes.

 

While on the subject can someone give me a quick run down of
what size the 04 rotors are, and the major difference between the 02 and 04 calipers?

 

http://www.mattblehm.com/index.htm

matt sells that as a complete brake upgrade, im sure if you contacted him as far as install questions go he would most likely help you out.

 

12.6" x 1.1".

Calipers are larger(still single piston) and pad surface is increased.

 

Don't spread misinformation.

Matt sells the caliper relocation kit for 2000-2001 stock calipers or for those wanting to use 300zx calipers with 2k4 rotors.

OP wants to use 2k4 calipers and 2k4 rotors. No kit needed.

 

How much are all the parts that you listed there? it'll sort of give me an idea on how much teh whole conversion is.

 

1. 2K4 Calipers with hardware kit from Dave B $160 shipped
2. RTP Blank Rotors from GD $131 shipped
3. Hawk HPS brake pads from buybrakes.com for $77.08 + shipping
4. SS Brake lines, decided not to purchase yet
5. Brake fluid, decided not to purchase yet

Not too bad for a nice upgrade I think.

 

It's a pretty affordable upgrade as far as brakes go.

I think you'll be pleased

 

i'm don't think these fit under OEM rims...can someone verify that. I think Irish mentioned something about this when he did it.

 

Sigh.

02-03 17" SE YES
00-01 17" NO

 

MetaOrbit---> ... Dont spoonfeed the noobl3ts.

 

Curses! The plague is upon me.

 

Keep it away!!!!

 

But you've already been with teh dirty pirate hooker

 

A little searching would have led you to this great thread. Every question is answered, Some several times since people dont know how to read.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=451967

 

no spoon feeding people

 

I've read the threads but did not find anything regarding the fitment under 02-03 GLE wheels, only SE wheels.

Do the 6 Gen rotors and calipers fit behind 02-03 GLE wheels?

Thanks.

 

I don't know of anyone yet that's done it with GLE wheels, but I can tell you roughly whether it will fit.

Go to your car, go to the front wheel. Measure the distance from the outer face of the rotor to the inside of your wheel spokes.

If you have about 2" of clearance, you should have enough room to fit the 6th gen calipers.

I know someone with the 02-03 SE wheels (which are confirmed to fit) told me the distance was 1 7/8". I think I have 2" or a little over.

NOTE (for any others): This measurement will only work if you're using the stock-sized 02-03 rotors.

 

Yes the 6th gen calipers/rotors fit behing the 02-03 GLE wheels.

I was also wondering if those buying these parts from the dealer does the required caliper bracket come with the purchase of the calipers? I got mine from a salvage vehicle so I wouldn't know, but was curious to find out.

As far as other threads regarding the direction of the slots on slot faced rotors and the correct direction. The proper direction is not related to the outside slots rather it is the internal vanes that need to be tailing back towards the rear of the vehicle. This allows the air being sucked in through the center to be pulled across the inside of the rotor surface for proper cooling.

However with some of these so called performance rotors these vanes are simply straight like the internal factory rotors so the direction of the slots on the face are mostly a cosmetic choice.

 

Since we're on the subject has anyone purchased remanufactured calipers from like advance auto or O'rileys? They wanted like $45 a piece and i figured they would be better than buying junk yard ones. thoughts?

 

If you read that thread I posted this question was answered several times... The bracket that is purchased is only for the 5th gen upgrading to the 6th gens. if you have a 5.5 it is a DIRECT BOLT ON. Please read that thread

 

I have a 5.5 gen 2002 GLE. The bracket I am speaking of is the one that the retainers and pads fit into and has the slides where the actual caliper bolts to with the 14mm bolts. This is the bracket you Must have from the 6th gen.

The stock 5.5 bracket will Not work with the 6th gen rotors as it isn't going to space the caliper correctly away from the center of the hub, as it is basically 1/2" to short to accomadate the 12.6" 6th gen rotor.

Although the 6th gen calipers will bolt to the 5.5 gen bracket and the 5.5 gen calipers to the 6th gen bracket you can't use them mismatched.

My question is still does buying the 6th gen caliper from the dealer include this bracket? I got both 2004 Calipers with the 2 Brackets and Rotors shipped for $110 so just wanted to see how good of a deal I got.

 

I don't know what you're talking about.

I bought my calipers from DAVEB and they didn't include a "bracket."

No bracket is required. It all bolts up fine. It's all spaced correctly. There's no need for any kind of bracket. Put on rotor, bolt caliper on, done.

EDIT: Are you sure you're not talking about the torque member? If that's the case, then yes, it was included with the calipers I ordered from DAVEB.

 

Apparently from your comments the calipers from the dealer already come with the bracket attached or it wouldn't just "bolt up".

Anyone who has ever done brake work on a sliding single piston caliper setup understands what I am referring to.

Anyway for $65 for a brand new caliper with the bracket is a steal.

 

So I guess you did mean the torque member then. Like I said, that is included.

Best of luck to you.

 

I never saw your Edited post earlier but thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

brake fluid i would recommend ATE racing brake fluid FTW!!!

 

I am horribly sorry for thread bumping but I wonder if the original poster ever did the swap and what the outcome was.

 

I have it done on mine and i'm very happy...