Only the Place Racing/Cattman setup (and certain OSCAIs) are "true CAIs"

The rest are "warm air intakes"

Case closed. Stop calling these "COLD air intakes." If it is anywhere in the engine bay, it is sucking warm air. Period.

What about PR ebay knock offs?

smart guy!

Just giving some s hope since you slam the nail on the coffin saying they're not made anymore..

Not by name brand, but sleaze's an option.

I found one for as low as 30$, Heaven knows how th fitment would have been but...just throwing that out there.

the n00bs aren't adventurous enough to drill the holes in their fender anyhow Most people aren't, for that matter.

Anyone can make a true CAI using PVC....it's all about routing it to the cold air...

So Irish, if I wedge the air filter between the exhaust manifold and block it will sheild it from the heat in the engine bay, right?

What if I hook up an AC unit right in front of my filter?

I will probably run low 13s if I'll keep my AC on!

Hi, I'm a new member here, what is a Place Racing/Cattman setup?

I actually have a new intake idea:

My piping will leave the TB, go through the firewall, under the driver's seat, through the backseat, and into the trunk - where it will be hooked up to a mini-fridge cranked to its coldest setting

its kind of like this

Cattman Awesome Intake That Sucks Teh Coldest Air and Not Water

I am going to run a pipe from my engine bay all the way to Antarctica!

so where exactly is the air filter located with a place racing/cattman setup?

Ok, kinda O/T but put on a Y-pipe last week and feels like I lost bottem end power. Dabbled in a$$hattery, and removed a 2 foot section of my WAI, now it's a short ram intake. It feels like I gained back some of the lost power. does this seem normal, or was it the 2 beers making me think I gained power?

in front of the driver's side front wheel behind the splash guard...basically, about a foot directly below the battery. "Cold" air comes in via the fog light opening, primarily.

and no water gets to it?

that's why they're called "splash guards"

I do have an Injen hydroshield on the filter, just in case....

You should be good on the water issue, unless you travel into flood waters.

Hey Irish, you know a lot about this s**t, what's the story on this issue? Help a nOOb out!

I dont think I could or would drive through enough water to hydrolock the motor. Its just below the battery, and thats plenty high IMO.

yup,,, for there to be enough suction to get the water up through the tuing and into the motor, you'd have to completely submerge the filter (water would have to be 18-20" high at least), and if the water's that deep, you're not going to make it through anyhow...

it's a cold air intake if you put your hand on the tube, and it feels cold

anyone have experience w/ the cosmo cai? it looks pretty nice, im diggin the price, just wondering about how it sounds and performance gains. Also, ive read that sometimes there are MAF or o2 sensor problems with aftermarket intakes? Is this only with cai's or are all intakes succeptable to this? ill be noobtastic if anyone can help me out.

Cosmo .. Got a link?



If you have enough sense to oil the air filter and not soak it, you'll be fine as far as the MAF is concerend.

Never heard of o2 sensor problems.

Yeah, I use that one. Get the same kinda gains as any other 3" WARM (that's for irish) AIR INTAKE. I ended up removing the piece that drops the filter down in front of the radiator. It's now more of a short ram intake. For the minimum gains you'll get, it's just fine.

(Oh, read the first post in this thread- cold/warm)

http://www.cosmoracing.com/productin...id=188&pid=755

http://www.cosmoracing.com/productin...id=188&pid=725

It goes where the hottness is

If you have a 3" intake tube, why not have a 3" MAF

I personally don’t care whether it’s called a CAI or WAI or anything else as long as it makes my car sound good and makes a little more power at the upper end, which the Berk unit does just fine.

I prefer the simpler easy-on easy-off design of a WAI set-up (or whatever you want to call it) in lieu of cutting holes into my car for what I perceive to be minimal gain of CAI over the WAI. I’m also personally not comfortable with most CAI designs regarding potential water ingestion and rod breakage, the claims above notwithstanding. It doesn’t take much water ingestion to ruin an engine. I acknowledge that as long as you operate your car with half a brain you can avoid most of that risk, it’s just that I’m at a point in my life where I want fewer such things to worry about, not more.

Has anyone else ever had the crazy thought of taking out the fog lights and turning those holes into dual intakes?
Granted you will need to make sure its screened and filtered to protect against splash, stones, bees and such.
I don't even want to think about the piping involved....

It would be an ugly massive waste.

Way to much piping and almost no real gains from an intake alone on a Maxima.

i come back to this forum after several weeks and whats the new topic of discussion? CAI vs WAI? Oh brother, these newbs force the vets to recycle the same information....booo

wasn't the noobs, it was irish trying to make sure no new threads are posted..

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That's cool - nobody is saying the WAI isn't worthwhile too (hell, I used to have a Frankencar). Just making the distinction, since a CAI gives different kinds of power gains (throughout the power band) vs. the WAI, which gives more gains up high but may lose power down low.

I completely hear you on the "worry about water" part - When it rains I get a bit paranoid, though i think it is without any real basis, and on the drilling through the fender is not for everyone (especially if you don't have the right tools to do it).

this thread was basically made so all the intake questions can go in here so we don't have 50 seperate threads on them. Seems to be working ok so far...

hey irish; do you have a couple of photos of your engine bay?

it's not much to look at (not much "bling") but if you want to see it:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/442543/3

Isnt that a good thing, according to this?

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=195391

Just to add.

Injen Intakes SUCK!!!! I had one installed and was pointing fingers at other issues for power loss. I just removed mine and put in a short arm similar to Frankencar/Berk. Let me tell you how my car is 10 times more responsive then before. I am leaving my setup as is now....

No exageration, with the VB mod I was unable to chirp second. Now I'm almost spinning through out first and chirpping nicely when I gone it. A lot more responsive. I highly recommend to anyone with this setup that you remove it.

I want to try a different intake setup, anyone have any sugestions on how to obtain at least berk intake beside the for sale section?? or any other intake that is worth getting??

I presently have the Injen intake, and i did notice the lost of low end power.


Cattman/ PR CAI: are not made anymore.
Berk/ Frankencar: does not respond to email or phone calls.

thanks,

Well get creative....

Someone also mentioned if someone had ever ran a tube from the fog light...

The idea is very old, takes me back to the days of my first Mustang, lol. Basically a dryer hose and some ingenuity, it just creates a ram effect, which in a way you might gain something you might not.

A intake is not a huge mod but one that is good to add to the stack and will benefit from other mods.