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Brake time, (front pads and rotors) worth it to do rear pads too?

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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Brake time, (front pads and rotors) worth it to do rear pads too?

going front brembo o.e. replacments and hawks pads.

i can get front and rear hawks for $114 shipped...is it worth it to put rear hawks on when i do hte front? (i know hte front does like 90% of hte work) the rears seem to be fine...the fronts are warped as hell...can't hit hte brakes real hard over 60 or the front of the car feels like its gonna fall apart.

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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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might as well do the rear . $114 is a reasonable price i would say.
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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Before you put in the Hawk in the rear, clean off the rotor with some stainless steel to get rid of the old pad material. And be sure to follow bed-in directions on the box, you should see a gray film on the rotors afterwards and even a gold ring (if heated up enough) near the hub area.
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Consistency front to rear?

It's really a personal preference, but my "particular" nature would want consistency all-around.
I tossed my OEM pads when I changed my fronts and they had AT LEAST 50% left on them.
The price on the Hawks sounds good. Hawks are good pads.

Don't forget that when replacing the pads in back, that you need a Piston Compressing tool that seats in the recess on the piston face, to allow you to TWIST while compressing back to the original position.
The fronts do not require this, and it can be a pain in the **** if you don't have the proper tool. Rent it from any pep-boys or auto zone for next to nothing....good advice.

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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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If you decide to put the Hawk Pads on the rear, then I'd recommend that you get the rear rotors surfaced. The machine shop likely won't have to take much off, and then you'll KNOW that you have a decent surface for the new pads.
Old Jan 8, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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If you decide to put the Hawk Pads on the rear, then I'd recommend that you get the rear rotors surfaced. The machine shop likely won't have to take much off, and then you'll KNOW that you have a decent surface for the new pads.

John -
If it came from ANYONE else on this forum, I would have questioned this!!!

I guess it depends on how many miles are on those rear rotors, but I don't remember ever hearing of ANYONE having "warped" rear rotors.

However - there is merit to starting with a clean slate!! Good advice, but I didn't do this to mine -- just slapped 'em on at 15k miles.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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I don't firm believer in uniformity. When I bought my car I did all four... Wished I would had gone with the Hawks, went with Axxis Metal Masters and 6 months later already squealing like little b1tches. Do all FOUR for peace of mind.

As far as resurfacing. Depends on the condition of the rotor. Hopefully is in like new condition and it won't be needed.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 05:54 AM
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John -
If it came from ANYONE else on this forum, I would have questioned this!!!

I guess it depends on how many miles are on those rear rotors, but I don't remember ever hearing of ANYONE having "warped" rear rotors.

However - there is merit to starting with a clean slate!! Good advice, but I didn't do this to mine -- just slapped 'em on at 15k miles.
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Well, it's not so much about having warped rear rotors as it is providing a fresh clean surface to bed in the new pads.

It's truly a rare day to find "warped" rear rotors, and you can certainly install the new pads on the existing rotors (providing they meet the minimum thickness). I'm just suggesting that if he's going to all the trouble, then he should start with a clean slate, then he doesn't have to wonder about anything.... besides, the time and cost of rotor resurfacing is minimal.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ghostrider17
It's really a personal preference, but my "particular" nature would want consistency all-around.
I tossed my OEM pads when I changed my fronts and they had AT LEAST 50% left on them.
The price on the Hawks sounds good. Hawks are good pads.

Don't forget that when replacing the pads in back, that you need a Piston Compressing tool that seats in the recess on the piston face, to allow you to TWIST while compressing back to the original position.
The fronts do not require this, and it can be a pain in the **** if you don't have the proper tool. Rent it from any pep-boys or auto zone for next to nothing....good advice.

gr

I purchased the tool that you're talking about from Napa auto parts for under $10. It works along with your 3/8 in. rachet. Just make sure to apply some brake fluid to the boot b/c it'll get twisted as you turn the piston.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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I purchased the tool that you're talking about from Napa auto parts for under $10. It works along with your 3/8 in. rachet. Just make sure to apply some brake fluid to the boot b/c it'll get twisted as you turn the piston.

DO NOT GET THAT BRAKE FLUID ON THE SURFACE/FACE Of the Brake Pads....it'll RUIN THEM~!!!!

Good call on the tool, btw! Didn't know it was so cheap to buy!

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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The rear piston can be turned fairly easily with a pair of needlenose pliers but the tool will certainly make it easier.

If I were you, I wouldn't apply brake fluid to the boot. As ghostrider17 said, you will ruin your pads if you get any on them. If you turn the piston slowly, the boot will not get twisted. If it does twist slightly (mine did when I did the brakes 2 weeks ago), just get the piston all the way in and then turn the piston 1/16th of a turn the other way to "untwist" the boot.

One final note, make sure you clean your new rotors with brake cleaner (easier to do before installing them) so that you get the packing oil off them.

BTW, Hawks HPS are the way to go and $114 shipped is a great price (where did you get them?). I have them front and rear and after warmed up, they grab like crazy! You won't be disappointed.
Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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http://www.raceshopper.com/hawk_brak...rt_hwk_brk_pad

$57+ shipping front or rear...

$114 shipped if you by front and rear (from the responce to the e-mail i sent)
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