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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 06:31 AM
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Toyo Proxes 4 in 5th gen stock 17" size? Do my eyes deceive me?

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Anyone out there own the Proxes 4 in the stock 17" 225/50/17 size? These must've become available recently because they weren't an option in '05 when I last bought tires. I'm looking to replace my Avon M550's which I loved but wore out pretty quickly (under 20k).

I like the fact that the Proxes 4's are 25 lbs. (2 lbs lighter than my Avons) and I know they've gotten high praise from many on the forum, including Irish who has run just about all the popular rubber.

Anyway, I'm in the dog house with my wife because my Avons didn't even make it 20k miles. What's your guess for treadwear on these P4's? I know they're 300 treadwear and Z rated, so I'm guessing around 30k is about all I can expect. Agreed?
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 06:41 AM
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mine are 235/45/17
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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I've got it on my car for about 40k and still counting but need to replace in another about 2k miles.
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Mine have 25K on them and are at 5/32. Last time I had them rotated I was told they could go another 10K or so. I plan on buying another set.
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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How much are these tires going for? Also where can I find them for a reasonable price?
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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You should be able to find them locally, but http://edgeracing.com/ is also a good source.
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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How much are these tires going for? Also where can I find them for a reasonable price?
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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Hypocrite...(you just jacked it too)

house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?

(and the proxis have been avalible since early 2006 at least)
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Hypocrite...(you just jacked it too)

house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?

(and the proxis have been avalible since early 2006 at least)
really?

first response of this thread
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mine are 235/45/17
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
now go do your own research
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 10:55 AM
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maybe if you're worried about treadlife get the Toyo TPT's
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Originally Posted by MyBlue02
house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?
Actually, that's currently my second choice but I'd prefer the Proxes 4 if treadwear were fairly comparable. Sounds like I could expect an extra 10-20k out of the Avid's...Now the question is if I mention that to the wife...
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by housecor
Actually, that's currently my second choice but I'd prefer the Proxes 4 if treadwear were fairly comparable. Sounds like I could expect an extra 10-20k out of the Avid's...Now the question is if I mention that to the wife...
tell her the toyos are safer

the tread life is very good on these tires
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
mine are 235/45/17
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
Same here.. i'm using 235/45/17 proxes 4 on 2k2 GLE rims

had them for 2+ years, 30k miles with decent tread left. I just replaced 2 proxes FZ4s (thats what i had before the 4s came out) last month and paid about 400 for both tires with the warranty. It was kinda pricey IMO, but i didn't have much choice and i was at town fair tire already.
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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as far as everything else is concern, i was thinking about buying these tires http://www.bfgoodrichtires.ca/bfgapp...actiontahv.jsp but have not yet able to gain control over my financial situation...

how do the proxes perform in the winter? like snow and ice....coz the weather gets crazy here in Canada...last week was almost -50C...my poor baby froze...
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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DO NOT BUY THE TRACTION TA's

i had them on my last car (gtp) and they sucked hard in the snow...dry and rain were better than the worn pilot a/s's they replaced.

the avids are nice...but tend to have a soft side wall compared toe the factory tires (re90a's?)

and the rain traction (from a stop) can be a littly trick...driving is fine.

snow...havent tried it yet
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
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Thought that's why people posted here was for research.....

Guess we can't ask for opinions now lol.....
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Originally Posted by ptviperz
Thought that's why people posted here was for research.....

Guess we can't ask for opinions now lol.....
grumpy old men...
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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Toyo Proxy 4's can be purchased from Treadepot.com. CAll them up and ask for Scott. Tell them to do better on the shipping cause you were looking at them before the new year (the prices went up after 2006) and he'll hook you up.
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 06:13 PM
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Yep, Edgeracing has the OEM size for $109 a piece. I have 245/45/17's on wider aftermarket rims and just absolutely love this tire. It's the best tire i've had in a long time. It has about 22k on it and tread has been holding up pretty well, i'd say it should last for another 20-25k under current driving conditions.
Old Jan 19, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
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2. do your own research (www.google.com)

Hey soooner how the f!ck is that thread jacking? I didn't redirect my comment to something like "hey what is toyo".I am in the market for the same set of tires you d00sh. Get a life dude seriously. Some people have things to do in life rather than sit on the org and b!tch about gay crap. Next time I'll be sure to follow your rules, oh wait you aren't a mod.
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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I have had them on my car for about 2 months (2k miles). Just felt like saying :-D
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Originally Posted by maxspeedse02
Hey soooner how the f!ck is that thread jacking? I didn't redirect my comment to something like "hey what is toyo".I am in the market for the same set of tires you d00sh. Get a life dude seriously. Some people have things to do in life rather than sit on the org and b!tch about gay crap. Next time I'll be sure to follow your rules, oh wait you aren't a mod.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 04:14 AM
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Cory, I've had 4's installed on my car since 2/20/06 and would definitely give these consideration for replacements. The ride quality and tread wear has really impressed me about these tires. Twice the tire of the Falken 512s, hands down.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:05 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. You've sold me. Now I've just gotta squeeze another 5k out of my Avons...

101.82 is the cheapest I've seen (at http://www.tiredeals4less.com/TOYO_P..._P1975C168.cfm) Anyone seen cheaper?
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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EdgeRacing.com...$106/each + $51.76 shipping for all four to 66101

Not sure if your link provided a shipping quote.

Glad our peer pressure helped you decide.
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go
EdgeRacing.com...$106/each + $51.76 shipping for all four to 66101

Not sure if your link provided a shipping quote.

Glad our peer pressure helped you decide.
Yeah, saw Edge but tiredeals4less has em beat:
101.82 each + $40.63 shipping via UPS ground.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
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Wow, you are so cool man.....

Almost as cool as the punctuation police lol
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 07:04 AM
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i used to have a set of them on my old talon.


i currently have a set of goodyear rsa on my car now. they wernt as bad in the snow as i thought they were. ive had them on for about 12k now have a good amout of tread left, even thou ppl on tirerack said they only last about 15k
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
1. dont jack threads
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for the thread-jacking noobs: http://forums.maxima.org/forumdispla...aysprune=&f=71
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So., How do this Proxes 4 do in the snow? I'm a good nine months away from requiring tire change but figured I'd ask. I have the 512's and they are decent. Will need to change soon... Keep us updated on how they go housecor...
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Holy crap! I was on the fences whether or not to go to 235/45/17 before, but now I'm definitely getting the Proxes 4's since I can get them in the stock size. Good find, housecor! My brother has them on his mini and they're excellent. He's put around 25k miles on them and they look a lot better than my Falken 512's do with 25k miles...
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I have Proxes '4' 225/50/16's on my car and they were pretty good in the snow last year... I've had em since sometime last november ~ 15 months? And I beat the ever livin S**T out of them. Hard launches, burnouts, hard turns very often and I have about half tread left.

I'd definitely buy them again because what i love about them is that they are so "all-seasonal." They're good in the snow, good in the rain, and yet, on a hot summer day them suckers get very sticky. VERY good tire IMO.
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Originally Posted by maxximaa
how do the proxes perform in the winter? like snow and ice....coz the weather gets crazy here in Canada...last week was almost -50C...my poor baby froze...
I had my first run in the snow/ice with mine this week. 215/45/17 (on a SENTRA, guys, calm down). They were okay. As AS tires go, they performed as expected. Nothing like winter/snow tires, but not bad. They did not fee unsafe, but if I lived in the wintery wonderland of the maple Leaf, I'd look into a dedicated set of winter/snow tires, either to mount seasonally on your OEM rims, or on their own rims.
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Has anyone seen Toyo's at a national chain tire dealer like Discount Tire?
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Has anyone seen Toyo's at a national chain tire dealer like Discount Tire?
They're not advertised, but your local Discount Tire rep can usually special order them and have it in within a day or two.

They'll also pricematch online stores (they factor in shipping costs for online retailers though).
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I had my first run in the snow/ice with mine this week. 215/45/17 (on a SENTRA, guys, calm down). They were okay. As AS tires go, they performed as expected. Nothing like winter/snow tires, but not bad. They did not fee unsafe, but if I lived in the wintery wonderland of the maple Leaf, I'd look into a dedicated set of winter/snow tires, either to mount seasonally on your OEM rims, or on their own rims.
Quick question as i've always been curious about it. Would the Sentra's lighter weight have any negative impact on the amount of traction this tire would have in the snow?

Thanks!
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Quick question as i've always been curious about it. Would the Sentra's lighter weight have any negative impact on the amount of traction this tire would have in the snow?

Thanks!
Yes, but not as much as you might think. I also have a HLSD, which offsets the traction problem a bit.

I think that the weight difference is only about 400 lb, but with a shorter wheelbase.
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Originally Posted by MaximaEvolution
I have Proxes '4' 225/50/16's on my car and they were pretty good in the snow last year... I've had em since sometime last november ~ 15 months? And I beat the ever livin S**T out of them. Hard launches, burnouts, hard turns very often and I have about half tread left.

I'd definitely buy them again because what i love about them is that they are so "all-seasonal." They're good in the snow, good in the rain, and yet, on a hot summer day them suckers get very sticky. VERY good tire IMO.
Agreed......great tire, decent in snow, great in rain. Got mine for just over 500 all-in cost (mounted, balanced, taxes, disposal fees etc) at a local Tire Rack after the counter guy raved about them. A WHOLE lot better than the Goodrich TAs I had before....which in turn were better than the OEM Bridgestones (shudder).
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Housecor I currently have a set of the Avid V4S and they are great in both dry and wet conditions. I tried them recetly in the snow and they performed above my expectations. I would definitely recommend them to someone who is considering them as a possible choice. And of course they are much better then the stock Bridgestone's the car came with.
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Originally Posted by Redstone
Housecor I currently have a set of the Avid V4S and they are great in both dry and wet conditions. I tried them recetly in the snow and they performed above my expectations. I would definitely recommend them to someone who is considering them as a possible choice. And of course they are much better then the stock Bridgestone's the car came with.
Thanks for the input - I've gotta say there are plenty of glowing reviews out there for the V4S, perhaps even more consistently positive reviews than I've read for the Proxes 4's. Honestly, the 3 reasons I'm leaning to the Proxes:

1. Ride (Relatively softer sidewall than the V4S)
2. Tread pattern. The Proxes 4's just look mean.
3. Lighter by 2lbs./tire

However, the V4S does offer what appears to be 10-20k longer treadlife, superior snow traction, and better handling (from the stiffer sidewall). My #1 priorities are ride and straight line traction where the Proxes 4 excels. But both are great tires.



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