Toyo Proxes 4 in 5th gen stock 17" size? Do my eyes deceive me?
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Toyo Proxes 4 in 5th gen stock 17" size? Do my eyes deceive me?
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Anyone out there own the Proxes 4 in the stock 17" 225/50/17 size? These must've become available recently because they weren't an option in '05 when I last bought tires. I'm looking to replace my Avon M550's which I loved but wore out pretty quickly (under 20k).
I like the fact that the Proxes 4's are 25 lbs. (2 lbs lighter than my Avons) and I know they've gotten high praise from many on the forum, including Irish who has run just about all the popular rubber.
Anyway, I'm in the dog house with my wife because my Avons didn't even make it 20k miles. What's your guess for treadwear on these P4's? I know they're 300 treadwear and Z rated, so I'm guessing around 30k is about all I can expect. Agreed?
Anyone out there own the Proxes 4 in the stock 17" 225/50/17 size? These must've become available recently because they weren't an option in '05 when I last bought tires. I'm looking to replace my Avon M550's which I loved but wore out pretty quickly (under 20k).
I like the fact that the Proxes 4's are 25 lbs. (2 lbs lighter than my Avons) and I know they've gotten high praise from many on the forum, including Irish who has run just about all the popular rubber.
Anyway, I'm in the dog house with my wife because my Avons didn't even make it 20k miles. What's your guess for treadwear on these P4's? I know they're 300 treadwear and Z rated, so I'm guessing around 30k is about all I can expect. Agreed?
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You should be able to find them locally, but http://edgeracing.com/ is also a good source.
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Originally Posted by maxspeedse02
How much are these tires going for? Also where can I find them for a reasonable price?
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
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1. dont jack threads
house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?
(and the proxis have been avalible since early 2006 at least)
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Originally Posted by MyBlue02
Hypocrite...(you just jacked it too)
house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?
(and the proxis have been avalible since early 2006 at least)
house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?
(and the proxis have been avalible since early 2006 at least)
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
mine are 235/45/17
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
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Originally Posted by MyBlue02
house, why not look into avid v4s? i have yet to drive them in the snow...but they have a 60,000 mile warenty on them if tire wear is a concern?
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Originally Posted by housecor
Actually, that's currently my second choice but I'd prefer the Proxes 4 if treadwear were fairly comparable. Sounds like I could expect an extra 10-20k out of the Avid's...Now the question is if I mention that to the wife...
the tread life is very good on these tires
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
mine are 235/45/17
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
ive had them for about 20K and even auto-crossed on them a few times. i have plenty of tread left
had them for 2+ years, 30k miles with decent tread left. I just replaced 2 proxes FZ4s (thats what i had before the 4s came out) last month and paid about 400 for both tires with the warranty. It was kinda pricey IMO, but i didn't have much choice and i was at town fair tire already.
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as far as everything else is concern, i was thinking about buying these tires http://www.bfgoodrichtires.ca/bfgapp...actiontahv.jsp but have not yet able to gain control over my financial situation...
how do the proxes perform in the winter? like snow and ice....coz the weather gets crazy here in Canada...last week was almost -50C...my poor baby froze...
how do the proxes perform in the winter? like snow and ice....coz the weather gets crazy here in Canada...last week was almost -50C...my poor baby froze...
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DO NOT BUY THE TRACTION TA's
i had them on my last car (gtp) and they sucked hard in the snow...dry and rain were better than the worn pilot a/s's they replaced.
the avids are nice...but tend to have a soft side wall compared toe the factory tires (re90a's?)
and the rain traction (from a stop) can be a littly trick...driving is fine.
snow...havent tried it yet
i had them on my last car (gtp) and they sucked hard in the snow...dry and rain were better than the worn pilot a/s's they replaced.
the avids are nice...but tend to have a soft side wall compared toe the factory tires (re90a's?)
and the rain traction (from a stop) can be a littly trick...driving is fine.
snow...havent tried it yet
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
1. dont jack threads
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
Guess we can't ask for opinions now lol.....
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Toyo Proxy 4's can be purchased from Treadepot.com. CAll them up and ask for Scott. Tell them to do better on the shipping cause you were looking at them before the new year (the prices went up after 2006) and he'll hook you up.
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Yep, Edgeracing has the OEM size for $109 a piece. I have 245/45/17's on wider aftermarket rims and just absolutely love this tire. It's the best tire i've had in a long time. It has about 22k on it and tread has been holding up pretty well, i'd say it should last for another 20-25k under current driving conditions.
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
1. dont jack threads
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
Hey soooner how the f!ck is that thread jacking? I didn't redirect my comment to something like "hey what is toyo".I am in the market for the same set of tires you d00sh. Get a life dude seriously. Some people have things to do in life rather than sit on the org and b!tch about gay crap. Next time I'll be sure to follow your rules, oh wait you aren't a mod.
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Originally Posted by maxspeedse02
Hey soooner how the f!ck is that thread jacking? I didn't redirect my comment to something like "hey what is toyo".I am in the market for the same set of tires you d00sh. Get a life dude seriously. Some people have things to do in life rather than sit on the org and b!tch about gay crap. Next time I'll be sure to follow your rules, oh wait you aren't a mod.
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Cory, I've had 4's installed on my car since 2/20/06 and would definitely give these consideration for replacements. The ride quality and tread wear has really impressed me about these tires. Twice the tire of the Falken 512s, hands down.
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Thanks for all the feedback guys. You've sold me. Now I've just gotta squeeze another 5k out of my Avons...
101.82 is the cheapest I've seen (at http://www.tiredeals4less.com/TOYO_P..._P1975C168.cfm) Anyone seen cheaper?
101.82 is the cheapest I've seen (at http://www.tiredeals4less.com/TOYO_P..._P1975C168.cfm) Anyone seen cheaper?
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Originally Posted by SEmy2K2go
EdgeRacing.com...$106/each + $51.76 shipping for all four to 66101
Not sure if your link provided a shipping quote.
Glad our peer pressure helped you decide.
Not sure if your link provided a shipping quote.
Glad our peer pressure helped you decide.
101.82 each + $40.63 shipping via UPS ground.
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i used to have a set of them on my old talon.
i currently have a set of goodyear rsa on my car now. they wernt as bad in the snow as i thought they were. ive had them on for about 12k now have a good amout of tread left, even thou ppl on tirerack said they only last about 15k
i currently have a set of goodyear rsa on my car now. they wernt as bad in the snow as i thought they were. ive had them on for about 12k now have a good amout of tread left, even thou ppl on tirerack said they only last about 15k
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
1. dont jack threads
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
2. do your own research (www.google.com)
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So., How do this Proxes 4 do in the snow? I'm a good nine months away from requiring tire change but figured I'd ask. I have the 512's and they are decent. Will need to change soon... Keep us updated on how they go housecor...
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Holy crap! I was on the fences whether or not to go to 235/45/17 before, but now I'm definitely getting the Proxes 4's since I can get them in the stock size. Good find, housecor! My brother has them on his mini and they're excellent. He's put around 25k miles on them and they look a lot better than my Falken 512's do with 25k miles...
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I have Proxes '4' 225/50/16's on my car and they were pretty good in the snow last year... I've had em since sometime last november ~ 15 months? And I beat the ever livin S**T out of them. Hard launches, burnouts, hard turns very often and I have about half tread left.
I'd definitely buy them again because what i love about them is that they are so "all-seasonal." They're good in the snow, good in the rain, and yet, on a hot summer day them suckers get very sticky. VERY good tire IMO.
I'd definitely buy them again because what i love about them is that they are so "all-seasonal." They're good in the snow, good in the rain, and yet, on a hot summer day them suckers get very sticky. VERY good tire IMO.
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Originally Posted by maxximaa
how do the proxes perform in the winter? like snow and ice....coz the weather gets crazy here in Canada...last week was almost -50C...my poor baby froze...
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Originally Posted by bladerunr
Has anyone seen Toyo's at a national chain tire dealer like Discount Tire?
They'll also pricematch online stores (they factor in shipping costs for online retailers though).
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Originally Posted by phenryiv1
I had my first run in the snow/ice with mine this week. 215/45/17 (on a SENTRA, guys, calm down). They were okay. As AS tires go, they performed as expected. Nothing like winter/snow tires, but not bad. They did not fee unsafe, but if I lived in the wintery wonderland of the maple Leaf, I'd look into a dedicated set of winter/snow tires, either to mount seasonally on your OEM rims, or on their own rims.
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by soundmike
Quick question as i've always been curious about it. Would the Sentra's lighter weight have any negative impact on the amount of traction this tire would have in the snow?
Thanks!
Thanks!
I think that the weight difference is only about 400 lb, but with a shorter wheelbase.
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Originally Posted by MaximaEvolution
I have Proxes '4' 225/50/16's on my car and they were pretty good in the snow last year... I've had em since sometime last november ~ 15 months? And I beat the ever livin S**T out of them. Hard launches, burnouts, hard turns very often and I have about half tread left.
I'd definitely buy them again because what i love about them is that they are so "all-seasonal." They're good in the snow, good in the rain, and yet, on a hot summer day them suckers get very sticky. VERY good tire IMO.
I'd definitely buy them again because what i love about them is that they are so "all-seasonal." They're good in the snow, good in the rain, and yet, on a hot summer day them suckers get very sticky. VERY good tire IMO.
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Housecor I currently have a set of the Avid V4S and they are great in both dry and wet conditions. I tried them recetly in the snow and they performed above my expectations. I would definitely recommend them to someone who is considering them as a possible choice. And of course they are much better then the stock Bridgestone's the car came with.
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Originally Posted by Redstone
Housecor I currently have a set of the Avid V4S and they are great in both dry and wet conditions. I tried them recetly in the snow and they performed above my expectations. I would definitely recommend them to someone who is considering them as a possible choice. And of course they are much better then the stock Bridgestone's the car came with.
1. Ride (Relatively softer sidewall than the V4S)
2. Tread pattern. The Proxes 4's just look mean.
3. Lighter by 2lbs./tire
However, the V4S does offer what appears to be 10-20k longer treadlife, superior snow traction, and better handling (from the stiffer sidewall). My #1 priorities are ride and straight line traction where the Proxes 4 excels. But both are great tires.