NEW tires WOW!!
07-04-2001, 09:36 PM
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i bought 245/45/17 toyo proxes........WOW the handling is sooooooo bad ***! it is like a new car..... i can take turns so much better than with my balded out potenzas that lasted me 13k...... i recomend these tires they kick *** in the rain and even more in the dry...... and by the way 245's fit fine with room to spare u could probably sqeeze a 255 on the shop said but u might have problem with clearence on the back spring.... just thought that i would let you know the best handling mod for your car is new bad *** tires!!!
07-04-2001, 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by WILLSE
i bought 245/45/17 toyo proxes........WOW the handling is sooooooo bad ***! it is like a new car..... i can take turns so much better than with my balded out potenzas that lasted me 13k...... i recomend these tires they kick *** in the rain and even more in the dry...... and by the way 245's fit fine with room to spare u could probably sqeeze a 255 on the shop said but u might have problem with clearence on the back spring.... just thought that i would let you know the best handling mod for your car is new bad *** tires!!!
i bought 245/45/17 toyo proxes........WOW the handling is sooooooo bad ***! it is like a new car..... i can take turns so much better than with my balded out potenzas that lasted me 13k...... i recomend these tires they kick *** in the rain and even more in the dry...... and by the way 245's fit fine with room to spare u could probably sqeeze a 255 on the shop said but u might have problem with clearence on the back spring.... just thought that i would let you know the best handling mod for your car is new bad *** tires!!!
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07-05-2001, 08:47 AM
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Re: Re: Are those on your factory 17's?
Originally posted by AznWontonboy
I hope not
I hope not
07-05-2001, 09:32 AM
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245'sn Stock 17" wheels
I believe many are surprised that a 245 will fit our 17" wheels that only have a width of 7". It has been my experience and understanding that usually you can go the next size up in width for a stock wheel - in this case a 235 tire - but that anymore you'd need to get a wider wheel. But hey, I'm glad to hear you r running 245's...I'll at least go up to 235 45's when my tires are worn out. Thanks...JW.
07-05-2001, 09:38 AM
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And now, a word from Kumho Tires . . .
This is a response I received recently from Kumho Technical Support. My question was whether it was safe to mount 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of 7.0".
"The information that I provided regarding the rim width range is in accordance with The European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization (ETRTO) Standards Manual. Tire manufacturers use this material as reference. It appears that [some tire manufacturers] do not go by these guidelines.
Going to a narrow rim width will create internal stresses inside the tire which may lead to premature tire failure.
Good luck!"
Apparently, ETRTO does not recommend running 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of less than 7.5".
So the question remains. If the manufacturer of a tire does not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width and the standards bodies do not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width, do you really want to ignore them?
"The information that I provided regarding the rim width range is in accordance with The European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization (ETRTO) Standards Manual. Tire manufacturers use this material as reference. It appears that [some tire manufacturers] do not go by these guidelines.
Going to a narrow rim width will create internal stresses inside the tire which may lead to premature tire failure.
Good luck!"
Apparently, ETRTO does not recommend running 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of less than 7.5".
So the question remains. If the manufacturer of a tire does not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width and the standards bodies do not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width, do you really want to ignore them?
07-05-2001, 10:11 AM
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Re: And now, a word from Kumho Tires . . .
On Toyo's website the narrowest rim size for a 245/45 was 7.5 inches. Do the tires look like they bow out from the sides of the rims at all? What Toyo model is it?
I think the Nitto 555 is the only tire rated with 245/45 and a 7 inch rim.(correct me if I'm wrong)
Does anyone have an opinion as to how well the Toyo's would compare to the Nitto's(If they truly do fit well)?
I think the Nitto 555 is the only tire rated with 245/45 and a 7 inch rim.(correct me if I'm wrong)
Does anyone have an opinion as to how well the Toyo's would compare to the Nitto's(If they truly do fit well)?
Originally posted by y2kse
This is a response I received recently from Kumho Technical Support. My question was whether it was safe to mount 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of 7.0".
"The information that I provided regarding the rim width range is in accordance with The European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization (ETRTO) Standards Manual. Tire manufacturers use this material as reference. It appears that [some tire manufacturers] do not go by these guidelines.
Going to a narrow rim width will create internal stresses inside the tire which may lead to premature tire failure.
Good luck!"
Apparently, ETRTO does not recommend running 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of less than 7.5".
So the question remains. If the manufacturer of a tire does not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width and the standards bodies do not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width, do you really want to ignore them?
This is a response I received recently from Kumho Technical Support. My question was whether it was safe to mount 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of 7.0".
"The information that I provided regarding the rim width range is in accordance with The European Tyre and Rim Technical Organization (ETRTO) Standards Manual. Tire manufacturers use this material as reference. It appears that [some tire manufacturers] do not go by these guidelines.
Going to a narrow rim width will create internal stresses inside the tire which may lead to premature tire failure.
Good luck!"
Apparently, ETRTO does not recommend running 235/45R17 or 245/45R17 tires on a rim with a width of less than 7.5".
So the question remains. If the manufacturer of a tire does not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width and the standards bodies do not recommend the use of a tire size on a specific rim width, do you really want to ignore them?
07-05-2001, 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
I think the Nitto 555's in 245 width are spec'd for 7" rims. I don't know about the Toyos though.
I think the Nitto 555's in 245 width are spec'd for 7" rims. I don't know about the Toyos though.
nope....for nittos, on a 7.5 wide rims, 235/45/17 is the maximum you can go...even this will buldge out the tires little bit...
now, as far as going 245/45/17s on stock 17x7s....good luck man...just take it easy and uh...might wanna take this to another mechanic for 2nd opinion....
07-05-2001, 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by irvine78
nope....for nittos, on a 7.5 wide rims, 235/45/17 is the maximum you can go...even this will buldge out the tires little bit...
now, as far as going 245/45/17s on stock 17x7s....good luck man...just take it easy and uh...might wanna take this to another mechanic for 2nd opinion....
nope....for nittos, on a 7.5 wide rims, 235/45/17 is the maximum you can go...even this will buldge out the tires little bit...
now, as far as going 245/45/17s on stock 17x7s....good luck man...just take it easy and uh...might wanna take this to another mechanic for 2nd opinion....
http://www.nittotire.com/mainframe.asp
Nitto is therefore among only a handful of tire manufacturers publicizing specs on some of their tires that are out of conformance with ERTRO guidelines. For more info, check out page three of the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ-U) sticky thread.
07-05-2001, 11:15 AM
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The saga continues . . .
I decided to call Nitto Tires on a hunch. I spoke to Conrad in their Technical Support Department. I asked him to double-check to make sure that the 555s in sizes 235/45R17 and 245/45R17 were OK to use on 7.0" wide rims per Nitto's published specs. While I was on the phone, Conrad looked up both the U.S. tire and rim specifications and the European (ERTRO) standards. In both cases, the minimum acceptable rim width for those tire sizes is listed as 7.5".
Conrad said he'd check to make sure that the rim width specs are not a misprint. He said he'd give me a call later today and let me know.
Conrad said he'd check to make sure that the rim width specs are not a misprint. He said he'd give me a call later today and let me know.
07-05-2001, 11:19 AM
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Re: The saga continues . . .
Originally posted by y2kse
I decided to call Nitto Tires on a hunch. I spoke to Conrad in their Technical Support Department. I asked him to double-check to make sure that the 555s in sizes 235/45R17 and 245/45R17 were OK to use on 7.0" wide rims per Nitto's published specs. While I was on the phone, Conrad looked up both the U.S. tire and rim specifications and the European (ERTRO) standards. In both cases, the minimum acceptable rim width for those tire sizes is listed as 7.5".
Conrad said he'd check to make sure that the rim width specs are not a misprint. He said he'd give me a call later today and let me know.
I decided to call Nitto Tires on a hunch. I spoke to Conrad in their Technical Support Department. I asked him to double-check to make sure that the 555s in sizes 235/45R17 and 245/45R17 were OK to use on 7.0" wide rims per Nitto's published specs. While I was on the phone, Conrad looked up both the U.S. tire and rim specifications and the European (ERTRO) standards. In both cases, the minimum acceptable rim width for those tire sizes is listed as 7.5".
Conrad said he'd check to make sure that the rim width specs are not a misprint. He said he'd give me a call later today and let me know.
07-05-2001, 11:40 AM
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Re: Re: The saga continues . . .
Originally posted by irvine78
WHO'S THE MAN!!!!
WHO'S THE MAN!!!!
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