Ground Control Coilovers with Eibachs, are they any good?
07-10-2001, 05:02 PM
#1
I am getting ready to get this kit from a friend I know that cant use it because his car hits the speed bump all the time at his college.
But I want to know, How much will this lower my 2001 Max SE?
Is the ride gonna be much harder than what it is now?
Is it very difficult to do the install on my own? Do I need like spring compressors and all that crap I dont have?
Thanks for answering my 4questions
Dixit
But I want to know, How much will this lower my 2001 Max SE?
Is the ride gonna be much harder than what it is now?
Is it very difficult to do the install on my own? Do I need like spring compressors and all that crap I dont have?
Thanks for answering my 4questions
Dixit
07-10-2001, 05:54 PM
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You'll need spring compressors if...
If you are going to be replacing your stock setup, you'll need spring compressors to remove the stock springs from the stock shocks.
I have been using the ground control w eibach setup for over a year now, and I still love the handling, and now the ride with the addition of the tokico blue shocks.
It is a little bouncy, but the handling you gain is well worth the little sacrifice on sub-par roadways.
For lowering? You can slam your car to the ground to where it is almost un-drivable. I am a big fan of the ground control setup.
If you won't be doing any autocrossing or track events, go a little lighter with the spring weights so you keep some of the drivability.
I have been using the ground control w eibach setup for over a year now, and I still love the handling, and now the ride with the addition of the tokico blue shocks.
It is a little bouncy, but the handling you gain is well worth the little sacrifice on sub-par roadways.
For lowering? You can slam your car to the ground to where it is almost un-drivable. I am a big fan of the ground control setup.
If you won't be doing any autocrossing or track events, go a little lighter with the spring weights so you keep some of the drivability.
07-10-2001, 06:08 PM
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Re: Re: You'll need spring compressors if...
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Remember that I am at this time not going to be replacing my current stock shocks. I am going to leave them in there for now.
Dixit
Remember that I am at this time not going to be replacing my current stock shocks. I am going to leave them in there for now.
Dixit
07-10-2001, 06:41 PM
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Don't get ground control. Ive never seen a system that was good with G.C. but i am a true car guy and am very touchy on even small things. I got cattmans new coilovers on the way and they seem like one of the better coilovers ive seen. For 1600 vs 3000 for a band g i dont see why not.
07-10-2001, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
They work well and I don't have any complaints about them. They're bumpy, but that what you get with coilovers.
They work well and I don't have any complaints about them. They're bumpy, but that what you get with coilovers.
07-10-2001, 11:36 PM
#11
I have Ground Controls w/ KYB GR2s on my 4th gen. I am running 450 lb front and 325 rear springs. Straight up, they are stiff... speedbumps are killer. Sometimes on a very bumpy road I find myself wishing I hadn't gotten such a stiff setup. But then when I go autoXing and road racing I remember why I did... they really help rip up a road course. If you aren't going to be racing, or don't need the adjustability for weather/car show concerns, I wouldn't get them. But if you do need the adjustability or want really stiff springs for racing, they are hard to beat. By the way with the GR2s they seem a little underdamped, meaning the springs is a bit to stiff for the shock it is paired with, but not terribly so.
07-10-2001, 11:37 PM
#12
Originally posted by max'n out
For 1600 vs 3000 for a band g i dont see why not.
For 1600 vs 3000 for a band g i dont see why not.
I am picking up these Ground Control Coilovers with the Eibach springs for less than $200 and they have only been used for 3weeks
Dixit
07-11-2001, 11:24 AM
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Steep no. Why heres a comparison. Cattman for the max is 1600. B + G is 1300- 3000 for an audio/vw... apexi are 3000... Ground control is not...NOT a complete coilover. Spend six for the ground control sleeves and springs anther six on shocks and struts. Get them moded and put on. Figure 1400- who knows. It could be cheaper but come on get the better ones... coilovers are not cheap but worth it. What I have seen from the gen 2 catts which are on there way to my house there as nice as any ive seen other than that there blue and purlple. What's up with the blue purlple?
07-12-2001, 07:04 AM
#14
Woah.... hold on there. 6 bills on GC's and another 6 for struts?
$399 for GC's and $440 for Koni's = ~$840
Camber plates from Stillen = ~$300
total = $1140 which is much cheaper than Cattman coilovers.
Installation?!?!?! D-I-Y.
$399 for GC's and $440 for Koni's = ~$840
Camber plates from Stillen = ~$300
total = $1140 which is much cheaper than Cattman coilovers.
Installation?!?!?! D-I-Y.
07-12-2001, 10:44 AM
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ok lets use that number 1140 vs 1600
GC can be put on your self so can the cattman's
Cattman has more types of adjustbility and uses no factory parts. If your moding a car and trying to be cheap it's gonna come back on you.
GC can be put on your self so can the cattman's
Cattman has more types of adjustbility and uses no factory parts. If your moding a car and trying to be cheap it's gonna come back on you.
07-12-2001, 11:57 AM
#16
Originally posted by max'n out
ok lets use that number 1140 vs 1600
GC can be put on your self so can the cattman's
Cattman has more types of adjustbility and uses no factory parts. If your moding a car and trying to be cheap it's gonna come back on you.
ok lets use that number 1140 vs 1600
GC can be put on your self so can the cattman's
Cattman has more types of adjustbility and uses no factory parts. If your moding a car and trying to be cheap it's gonna come back on you.
If you want more adjustability with the setup I have, get the AGX when they come out.
07-12-2001, 01:36 PM
#17
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
I don't understand how you can say it'll come back on me if I'm trying to be cheap. Eibach, Ground Control, Koni, and Stillen parts are used in the setup I mentioned. Who else besides Maxima/I30 owners will know about Cattman products? If you're talking about named brands, my setup wins hands down with no comparison.
If you want more adjustability with the setup I have, get the AGX when they come out.
I don't understand how you can say it'll come back on me if I'm trying to be cheap. Eibach, Ground Control, Koni, and Stillen parts are used in the setup I mentioned. Who else besides Maxima/I30 owners will know about Cattman products? If you're talking about named brands, my setup wins hands down with no comparison.
If you want more adjustability with the setup I have, get the AGX when they come out.
07-12-2001, 10:22 PM
#18
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
I am picking up these Ground Control Coilovers with the Eibach springs for less than $200 and they have only been used for 3weeks
Dixit
I am picking up these Ground Control Coilovers with the Eibach springs for less than $200 and they have only been used for 3weeks
Dixit
07-13-2001, 01:42 AM
#20
Originally posted by mbcp_tdogg
That's right! I hope it's a different guy.
That's right! I hope it's a different guy.
07-13-2001, 04:47 AM
#21
Originally posted by Menacer
i was thinking about bidding on these but after hearing all this it mad me think that maybe the seller of these springs is being dishonest. not really sure though. oh well. i hope it's a diffrent guy too.
i was thinking about bidding on these but after hearing all this it mad me think that maybe the seller of these springs is being dishonest. not really sure though. oh well. i hope it's a diffrent guy too.
07-13-2001, 07:30 AM
#22
Originally posted by ohboiya
I don't quite understand your last sentence ... u can become more adjustable with the GC using KYB's instead of say Tokico's? How so? I can't quite picture this ....
I don't quite understand your last sentence ... u can become more adjustable with the GC using KYB's instead of say Tokico's? How so? I can't quite picture this ....
olice: Calm down guys, someone is going to get hurt, and we all know what happened to Kev the last time.
07-13-2001, 11:42 PM
#25
Originally posted by ohboiya
I was thinking sorta along the same lines ... but ... not that the seller was being dishonest ... I think the person asking the question wanted these .. but didn't want 2 reveal the fact the it was on eBay 4 all 2 have access 2 ... n e ways ... they're mine now
I was thinking sorta along the same lines ... but ... not that the seller was being dishonest ... I think the person asking the question wanted these .. but didn't want 2 reveal the fact the it was on eBay 4 all 2 have access 2 ... n e ways ... they're mine now
07-13-2001, 11:56 PM
#26
Originally posted by ohboiya
I was thinking sorta along the same lines ... but ... not that the seller was being dishonest ... I think the person asking the question wanted these .. but didn't want 2 reveal the fact the it was on eBay 4 all 2 have access 2 ... n e ways ... they're mine now
I was thinking sorta along the same lines ... but ... not that the seller was being dishonest ... I think the person asking the question wanted these .. but didn't want 2 reveal the fact the it was on eBay 4 all 2 have access 2 ... n e ways ... they're mine now
Dixit
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