Time for some brakes...thoughts? suggestions?
04-14-2007, 03:28 PM
#41
Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
What do you guys think about doing rear rotors at the same time? They're 34 each, I'm tempted to do it and be done with all the brakes and I may not have to replace them again as long as I own the car. Are the rears especially susceptible to warping?
around 60% of the stopping force comes from the front brakes...those pads wear out way quicker and also warp the rotors.
04-14-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
i didnt do the rears
around 60% of the stopping force comes from the front brakes...those pads wear out way quicker and also warp the rotors.
around 60% of the stopping force comes from the front brakes...those pads wear out way quicker and also warp the rotors.
04-14-2007, 05:32 PM
#43
Originally Posted by Yayomax
Now I use a pair of needle nose pliers. There are two grooves on the piston that the tips fit right into so I can twist. Seems Nissan hasn't changed. I have yet to change my brakes on my 5th gen
. The 5th gen design is a lil different, it has 4 grovves in it. I tried for the longest time too cuz i didnt wanna spend anymore $ but i finally just gave in and bought a brake piston tool from autozone.
I paid ~8$ @ Checker. I have 2 of them
04-14-2007, 11:50 PM
#48
Originally Posted by Kevon1
My experience is just the opposite. I find that the best combo is the Raybesto QS with the brembo blanks. Almost no dusting,very good stopping power & very friendly on the rotors.
I will check on those WEAREVER PADS which is basically the nissan pads though.....
04-14-2007, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by OC guy
never go with hawk hps pads you will not be setisfied.
04-15-2007, 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by LA02MAX
umm...care to back up your claim? Just about everyone that has them seems to be pretty satisfied...If you're going to say 'Don't buy this' then you better have reason to support your suggestion.
04-15-2007, 03:20 AM
#52
U know the complete poles in customer satisfaction in hawk hps is really strange. Most people absolutely love them while a seldom few wont come near them w/ a 10 ft. pole. I find it really odd. 
04-15-2007, 08:18 AM
#53
Originally Posted by OC guy
first of all too much dust on my chrome front wheels another complaint is too much squealing, whistling, etc etc. I admit that stoping power is better than OEM but overall performance zero class.
That makes good sense.
04-15-2007, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by OC guy
i dont know how many times i have to repeat about the hectic situation that i went through by having the hawk hps with brembo blanks. i ended up getting OEM pads i still got hawk hps that i drove only 2000k on them and they are sitting in my closet getting rusted nobody wants to buy them not even for 15 bucks. the consequences of those pads were horrible. first of all too much dust on my chrome front wheels another complaint is too much squealing, whistling, etc etc. I admit that stoping power is better than OEM but overall performance zero class.
They also squeal but that's annoying as hell...it has a lot to do with the way they're installed as well, and I'm pretty sure when I installed mine I put the anti-squeal stuff in the wrong spot (whoops) so hopefully I can get it right when I get hawks...
04-15-2007, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Stardust
So you would rather have a good appearance then have effective brakes?
That makes good sense.
That makes good sense.
OEM is your best bet.
04-15-2007, 10:48 AM
#56
Originally Posted by OC guy
whats wrong with akebono replacement or OEM pads? i dont understand that why we always gotta run toward aftermarket parts when we can get the OEM parts for less cost. ya the appearance is important to me because i dont like bending over all the time and wiping that brake dust off my wheels just because i want extra 20% of stoping power? no thats not worth it. i would rather pay for something more quiet and clean than something called HAWK"S hps. and by the way after getting the OEM pads installed i have not figured the huge difference in performance comparing to hawk's pads.
OEM is your best bet.
OEM is your best bet.
Did you break in the pads correctly when you were using the HPS?
04-15-2007, 01:12 PM
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To be honest the OEM brake pads are not bad at all. What I don't like is the price of the OEM rotors. Definitley overpriced. Last time I did my brakes on the rear wheels I used Duralast rotors from Autozone with OEM pads and never had any problems. Dust of course, but no squeaks. I will need to do the front in a few months and I am planning on trying brembo blanks and either OEM pads or I might try Satisfied Ceramic pads which I bought recently for my wife's Altima. I will see how they work out on her car before making a final decision.
04-15-2007, 02:05 PM
#59
Originally Posted by OC guy
I admit that stoping power is better than OEM but overall performance zero class.
Originally Posted by OC guy
and by the way after getting the OEM pads installed i have not noticed the huge difference in performance comparing to hawk's pads.
04-16-2007, 09:33 AM
#63
Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
Anyone know if I can use an oversize rotor on the fronts and if so how big can I go? Can I get an 04+ rotor on without issues?
http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.htm
04-16-2007, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
you will need the caliper relocation bracket
http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.htm
http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.htm
and did you get to watch the red and white game a couple weeks ago?
04-16-2007, 09:46 AM
#65
Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
THank you for the link and the help on this...I'll probably be going with the brembo's for pricing concerns...
and did you get to watch the red and white game a couple weeks ago?
and did you get to watch the red and white game a couple weeks ago?
sure did...gotta love ESPN. cant wait to move back to OKC next summer
04-16-2007, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
Why did you move away?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=517080
04-16-2007, 11:18 AM
#68
Originally Posted by soonerfan
you will need the caliper relocation bracket
http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.htm
http://www.mattblehm.com/relocation_kit.htm
04-16-2007, 12:06 PM
#69
Originally Posted by Redstone
To be honest the OEM brake pads are not bad at all. What I don't like is the price of the OEM rotors. Definitley overpriced. Last time I did my brakes on the rear wheels I used Duralast rotors from Autozone with OEM pads and never had any problems. Dust of course, but no squeaks. I will need to do the front in a few months and I am planning on trying brembo blanks and either OEM pads or I might try Satisfied Ceramic pads which I bought recently for my wife's Altima. I will see how they work out on her car before making a final decision.
Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
THank you for the link and the help on this...I'll probably be going with the brembo's for pricing concerns...
and did you get to watch the red and white game a couple weeks ago?
and did you get to watch the red and white game a couple weeks ago?
04-16-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Redstone
To be honest the OEM brake pads are not bad at all. What I don't like is the price of the OEM rotors. Definitley overpriced. Last time I did my brakes on the rear wheels I used Duralast rotors from Autozone with OEM pads and never had any problems. Dust of course, but no squeaks. I will need to do the front in a few months and I am planning on trying brembo blanks and either OEM pads or I might try Satisfied Ceramic pads which I bought recently for my wife's Altima. I will see how they work out on her car before making a final decision.
The OEM pads are garbage... They are the reason most people get the brake "judder", it is not the rotors at all.
The OEM brakes transfer pad material to the rotor, giving an uneven braking surface making them judder and shake. On one month old brakes I had to make an emergency stop on the highway (75mph-->0mph) and after that they were were shot. I have been running Hawk HPS pads for over a year now with some much higher speed stops and they still are flawless, not to mention the brakes don't fade when they get hot. The HPS pads are actually better once you get them nice and hot.
04-16-2007, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by upstatemax
The OEM pads are garbage... They are the reason most people get the brake "judder", it is not the rotors at all.
The OEM brakes transfer pad material to the rotor, giving an uneven braking surface making them judder and shake. On one month old brakes I had to make an emergency stop on the highway (75mph-->0mph) and after that they were were shot. I have been running Hawk HPS pads for over a year now with some much higher speed stops and they still are flawless, not to mention the brakes don't fade when they get hot. The HPS pads are actually better once you get them nice and hot.
The OEM brakes transfer pad material to the rotor, giving an uneven braking surface making them judder and shake. On one month old brakes I had to make an emergency stop on the highway (75mph-->0mph) and after that they were were shot. I have been running Hawk HPS pads for over a year now with some much higher speed stops and they still are flawless, not to mention the brakes don't fade when they get hot. The HPS pads are actually better once you get them nice and hot.
"warped rotors" is just pad material collected on the rotors. HPS wont do that which is why i got new rotors too.
04-23-2007, 06:18 AM
#73
Originally Posted by upstatemax
The OEM pads are garbage... They are the reason most people get the brake "judder", it is not the rotors at all.
The OEM brakes transfer pad material to the rotor, giving an uneven braking surface making them judder and shake. On one month old brakes I had to make an emergency stop on the highway (75mph-->0mph) and after that they were were shot. I have been running Hawk HPS pads for over a year now with some much higher speed stops and they still are flawless, not to mention the brakes don't fade when they get hot. The HPS pads are actually better once you get them nice and hot.
The OEM brakes transfer pad material to the rotor, giving an uneven braking surface making them judder and shake. On one month old brakes I had to make an emergency stop on the highway (75mph-->0mph) and after that they were were shot. I have been running Hawk HPS pads for over a year now with some much higher speed stops and they still are flawless, not to mention the brakes don't fade when they get hot. The HPS pads are actually better once you get them nice and hot.
Basically.....and i can vouch for that one. I remember i had to make a emergency stop like that on the highwy at about the same speed.
04-23-2007, 06:20 AM
#74
Originally Posted by Trurida18
Now with the Hawk PADS on the front Do i have to use the OEM shims that came with the stock pads, or the SHIMS that are built onto the pads just fine?
04-23-2007, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 6SpeedTA95
If they're made out of 100% same material than no it doesn't. What I've read however is that some rotors have different friction ratings due to the differences in makeup the result is better stopping power. Dunno how true it is but it makes sense from a chemistry aspect (which I know a little about 
)
)Only problem I've ever had with rotors that are a bit cheaper is that sometimes they're not quite as thick (so next time you need brakes you have to replace them rather than having an option to turn them), and also some of the cheapy rotors aren't packaged very well from the factories and stacked. I've gotten some sets (as well as drums) that were out of spec from factory! Its possible to get warped rotors/out-of-round drums right out of the box. If you buy your hardware from a decent shop (a napa or similar) they can check them before you stick them on your car. Sounds superfluous, I know, but just from personal experience I've been burned before and its no fun tearing everything back apart!
04-23-2007, 10:58 AM
#78
Originally Posted by soonerfan
i still used the OEM shims
04-24-2007, 10:37 PM
#80
Originally Posted by Osburn2027
where are you geting your hawk pads from
the first pair i got from EBAY....but the seller was autopartswarehouse.com
so it was from an autopartswarehouse.com EBAY AUCTION...this last set i picked up from PEP BOYS because they had em in stock......