well ive had my illuminas & H&Rs installed for about 2 months now and a couple weeks ago it started making ANNOYING LOUD noises. These noises sounded pretty much the same to the ones my old BLOWN struts were making, im praying these brand new illuminas are not already blown, i mean it cant be. i even tried pushing the car down and it just jumps right back up. I know it has to be something but I have no clue. Over some bumps it doesnt bother to make a noise. but if its one of those bumps that stick up on a flat road the car will make a loud clunk going over it.. now if i go into a hole thats deep enough the car will go CLUNK CLUNK and be REALLY loud as if something is breaking or as if i have blown struts.. any reasons as to why this is happennig? I am in need of an alignment and have been since this suspension modification and am going to get one this weekend... could my ****ed up alignment(pulling to right) be causing this or could have caused this? anything?

 

Did you trim the bump stops?

 

It sounds as if you're just getting the regular symptoms of a lowered car. Stiffer springs + weak 'frame' structure = chassis flex out the butt which leads to interior rattles, and loud crashes over bumps....check out the suspension forum and look at the new SFCs (sub-frame connectors) that will be available very soon. For $300 it will strengthen your car a lot and you will not have this crashing noise over bumps.

 

can you show me a picture of what this looks like or explain in detail because I dont know what this is...

 

I DOUBT these are regular symptoms.. when i first installed the suspension for the first week or 2 it was PERFECT. these noises are definitely NOT normal, if i go over a dip in the road or a pothole it will make a LOUD CLUNK or like CADUNK type of noise(cant really explain it lol) but its REALLY loud and sounds as if something is breaking...

 

You really need to spend some time in the stickys.

http://www.innerbean.com/housecor/strut_install.html

 

I dont see anything on bump stops...

 

Step #8 in the linked write-up......

 

some people need to have their thread starting privileges revoked until they read all the stickies and realize they need to stop demanding to be spoon feed.
this is about 10 threads in the last couple days

 

o, here you go again, this is a legible thread, ive searched and found mad people with similar problems, but my situation and problems are different and i couldnt get a REAL answer from the other threads, so i started my own, will u relax...

 

well, i can say one thing.. TJMAX from NYCMAXIMAS did my install and I didnt see him trim ANYTHING.. is that whats making all this noise? seriously?

 

Appretntly uou didn't read it all. You must help yourself before we can help you.

 

explain all the other pointless threads.

you started a pointless thread and i helped you anyway but you still wouldnt listen. you are doing the same thing here.
dont start a thread if you arent going to listen

 

im DEFINITELY listening... I saw the pics, but i doubt TJMAX trimmed anything because I was watching and i didnt see him trim a thing.. is that why my suspension makes all that CLUNKING noise and feels real ****TY over big bumps?

 

why are you so annoying why do you post things and then when someone gives you an answer you have a argeument with them and you think your right all the time read in the suspension thread its a "sticky" stop posting pointless threads.

 

we all know he is stubborn

 

i am listening but i didnt get a for sure answer, all i got was "did u trim ur bump stops"? i said no, and i didnt hear anyone say, well then get that done because FOR SURE that is the problem.. IS THAT THE PROBLEM FOR SURE?

 

please listen to people

1. trim your bumpstops
2. stop starting new threads
3. replace valve covers
4. stop starting new threads
5. your 02 sensors are fine
6. stop starting new threads
7. there is nothing for our car like the grand prix

 

are you mentally challenge.

 

LMAOOOOOOO

 

try to go a week without starting a thread. trust me...the answers are out there.

 

whats a good amount to trim them though if im on H&Rs with Illuminas?

 

STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:attention

from the write-up you keep claiming you read - Tokico recommends trimming no more than 1/3 - 1/2 the length of the bump stop.

 

We are helping you diagnose the problem and fault find, not fixing it for you. Use the information here and check it for yourself, its not like we have your car in front of us and can only go by your description.

 

I know, and that is why im taking the bump stop thing into consideration and am gonna have it done... but im just trying to figure out how much I should trim on my suspension setup?

 

1. Stop posting
2. Go back to Step #8 in posted link above
3. Locate the link to Housecor's poll on this topic

 

See post #26

 

Yea but even housecor says he wasnt sure if everything under the orange circle is part of the bump stop or not.. so should I trim off that whole orange piece like he did or only 1/3 - 1/2 of it? or is it 1/3 to 1/2 the whole thing INCLUDING what he wasnt sure about, i just dont wanna do the wrong thing..

 

While you're reading, go back to Housecor's website and also look for a link to "How to resolve front end suspension noise".

 

yeah...argue with a mod and post when he said not to

 

And i googled and cudnt find H&Rs specifications of trimming the bump stop, i just dont wanna make a mistake and trim it too little or too much, please just give me the right answer and exactly how much u think i should trim and i wont bother u in this thread anymore

 

Yes, that is what he was trying to figure out... but the point of the poll is to see what most people did, because there is no right answer on how much of it to trim. It depends on the roads you drive on, how you drive, and what springs you have. If you're afraid of doing the wrong thing, get a spare set of bumpstops and trim them by what you think is a good amount and see how that works.

But before that, I'd check out the other causes of noises that he outlines in the other write-up.

 

thanks, but i did, those arent really the symptoms im having.. it just makes REALLY loud disgusting clunking noises everytime i go over a nice bump

 

this will become like the valve cover thread...3 pages of us telling you the EXACT SAME THING!!!!!!!!!

 

I hate to say it, but there is no right answer. I have Progress springs and have not trimmed the bumpstops; I bottom out once in a while, but I can deal with it. Others with Progress springs have practically cut several inches off the stops because of how much they bottom out (once again, a road condition issue).

AFAIK, many people with H&Rs don't cut anything off their stops. Like I said, check other possible causes like bad struts and spring seating before dismantling your suspension. Are you sure its not something that is non-suspension related?

 

Anyway, you have H&Rs, how much did you cut your stops? IIRC you didn't cut em right?

 

FYI, i havent cut anything.

 

i didnt need to cut anything...but i still know.

 

and is bottoming out another name for those LOUD *** clunking noises when you go into a big bump? because if it is then i bottom out all the time because im daily driving in queens/brooklyn/manhattan so its always around me, so ru sure bottoming out is what it sounds like im doing? what can it possibly be thats non suspension related? and BTW TJMAX from NYCMAXIMAS.org installed mine as he did a bunch of other people so im pretty sure its not that he installed it wrong or anything..

 

with a lowered car, you shouldnt drive over a bump fast anyway.
you obviously dont care about your car. i crawl over speed bumps etc