http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....92#post5649992

Check it out guys!
The time is here!

Mike

Puppetmaster edit:

Pics and reviews can be found in this thread: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=518814

 

bumpity bump. Get on this, everyone!

 

No....................

 

quick question... wat are the advantages of it under normal driving back and forth to work... and would i notice the difference through out the city roads and highway roads?

 

yes. Vibrations from road imperfections will be DRASTICALLY reduced, your chassis will no longer flop like a limp noodle causing those crashing noises over bumps....your ride will generally be much improved.

 

even though there are a million discussions of this already, here are cliffs:
- better ride quality (suspension is "doing what it's supposed to")
- less interior squeaks and rattles over bumps
- more "planted" feeling on highway, especially when you hit bumps/ridges
- lowers car's center of gravity resulting in less body lean
- tightens up responsiveness of car.

In short, this is a GREAT mod for "daily driving" and is NOT just for track cars.

 

all i needed to know... thanx

 

i really didn't think our cars would that flimsy for it to i gess "twist/floppy" or so to say... im just basically trying to visualize it... the problem i have with driving on the roads... is wheels hops... its a p.i.a. and started alot once i did the 5 speed swap... hmmm let me read more input on this but i like wat i see so far

 

If you understand how it works, it's really very easy to realize which car has a strong structure and which doesn't. As irish mentioned, when you hit a big bump, much of it is absorbed in the form of chassis flex. You can see this when you put the front of your car on jackstands only to observe that it 'bends' upon releasing the jack from underneath the crossmember due to the weight. Because of this, the suspension is not really doing all it's designed to do. With these SFCs, the strengthened uni-body allows the suspension to do most of the work (there will still be some chassis flex...) and your car will react much better in any scenario.

 

ok thats a good view i can see exactly wat ur talking about... but compared this unique equipment to that of the foam that u inject in to ur frame that supposedly it makes ur chassis stiffer... would choose one or the other or both... now i dont recall anyone actually trying to inject this foam in their car but it has been a topic in the past

 

I would say both.
But SFC's over the foam

I'm foaming here in a couple of weeks hopefully

 

I would choose these definitely. The foam is lighter, and can stiffen more parts of the car, but it's very messy and hard to do, and some say it could jeopardize the way the car will handle an accident...

 

stock rides best. I am sure instead of lowering the car with different springs and struts the ride would be smoother with just better quality (cadillac wise) ride.

My drop is nice and all but it rides like crap. I am understanding that this product helps the ride?

T T

 

Read the thread and I bet you'll know the answer

 

Uhh...so I guess I should have asked this earlier, but how big was the box that the SFCs came in (LxWxH)? Will I have trouble tossing these in my trunk and still have the lid close (rear seat folded down of course)?

 

I'm excited! This is nearly a must-have for all 5th gens, considering how sloppy our chassis is. For those that will ask, only downfall would be ground clearance (if that! ~ 1in?)

 

bump it up.

 

about time!!!

 

just when i dropped a bunch of money for s/c'er stuff.
so how much do you guys estimate it costs to have a shop weld this on?

 

Damn, i wish I would've known about this a few days ago. I might have to wait a few wks to scape up some spare cash that wasn't designated for something else. But thanks for doing this, were long overdue for some SFC's!

 

Are you saying this in relation just to the fact of the weight the bar?

 

Thanks for doing the test work on the spacers and now this. =) it looks really good man!!

 

No problem burnurass!

It cost me $80.00 to get them installed.
You're looking at anywhere betwene 60 and 130 to get them installed IMO.

Mike

 

yes............that is how center of gravity works

 

Word...in most cases COG = center of mass...add more mass to the bottom of the car and well, the center of mass is lowered which means better handling

 

Hmmm...these look like an awesome mod. They just might satisfy my need for a better handling car at the moment. The handling is one of the few things I don't like about the Max. I guess I'm going to have to see how much it would cost to have these installed around here. $80 doesn't sound too bad...

 

comeon people....over the last couple years there have been so many saying how they wished someone would make SFCs since WS wasn't making them....

where you all at???

 

I got a question. I was to get them could I get them installed by you since I live in MN.

 

Truax said they don't really want to do installs at their shop since it's a fabrication shop. Any muffler shop or shop that makes roll cages/race cars can do it for around $100 no problem.

 

Obviously I understand the concept. I would have made reference to such, but figured you would have assumed that. Anyway, just looking to open dialog on the exact reason given for lowering COG. I mean, realistically, how much weight is the bar?

 

I think the whole setup is about 40lbs. I'm not citing a lower COG as a major factor, but it is always a factor with anything. For example, my roof rack weighs about 15lbs, but the car leans considerably more with it on the roof, even though it doesn't weigh much....

 

If these are good for daily driving, then obviously Irish has some hardcore lane changes or some super touge onramps that he takes at 90mph.

 

Good lord this is a good price for what you are getting, if you really think about it. Give me less than a month and I'll snag a set.

 

G35driver.com?

Edit: I just checked the thread. We're almost there -- just need 1-2 more. We've all been waiting a long time. Another day won't kill us. Considering the deal was only posted 2 days ago, and not everyone is on the forums 24/7, that ain't bad. We're doing much better than the 4th gens. It took them nearly a week to get where we are.

 

With the write-up/picture thread that I made, you could take it to any good welder and get everything taken care of.

 

These do more than just help the car handle better.
Every aspect of the car is enhanced.
Better braking, less road noise, less clunks/creaks, softer ride, less body roll, less strain on all moving parts (suspension, etc..)
The list goes on..

 

are there any negatives at all from installing these? are we sure they don't block anything like 02 sensor or something of the like. just curious.

 

Actually, I'd argue that because these reinforce the subframe and allow the suspension components to "do their job" there may be MORE strain on the suspension. However, this isn't to say that it will cause you do rip bushings and blow struts right away. I really doubt that the additional strain and wear will have any serious long term effects, but that all depends on your set-up, driving habits, road conditions, etc. This is just a minor technicality that I'm pointing out.


EDIT: Doh, someone else posted something similar yesterday:

http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...0&postcount=20

 

From the pictures, it doesn't look like there's any sort of blockage. Exhaust work can still be done by removing the x-brace. Just be careful of the fuel lines when doing the install.

The only negative that I can think of was discussed a while back with no conclusions, AFAIK, and that was the uncertainty surrounding the crumple zone and the how the SFCs would behave in a major collision. In some cases, it was argued that the reinforced subframe would help in a collision, but some were still concerned about the unpredictability of the SFCs and how they would crumple; ie. if they would pierce into the cabin, cut fuel lines, and also how they might affect insurance claims, etc.

 

maybe I missed it. But where are the pictures?